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If this Life was all there Is
    #5784358 - 06/23/06 04:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

For a moment let's pretend that, through some trick of logic or scientific discovery, we were able to prove "beyond a doubt" that this "life" was all that there was - no afterlife or anything beyond this limited existence. For the sake of this thread, imagine this proof is strong enough for you yourself to believe it.

Would you change the way you live your life? If so, what would you change? Would you do anything drastic or extreme?


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
    #5784367 - 06/23/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i wouldn't trouble myself with a job, i would rob the richest person i could find, travel to some remote location in some tropical forest, and live out my life there tripping balls on a lifetime supply of LSD and Mushies that i brought with me.

EDIT: i would also bring along like 100 sex slaves to heed every bidding of mine.

cuz i mean, shit, no afterlife? no judgement? what is there to fear?


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Syle]
    #5784385 - 06/23/06 05:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If i was 100% sure of that i would head my life in an all new direction. I would travel the whole world and experience as much as i could. I would also probably do something drastic like devise the best possible plan to pull off a huge heist and do like Syle says


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Syle]
    #5784390 - 06/23/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I fear no judgement and expect no reward at the end of my life. I would change not one little thing about the way I live, I'm already living the way that seems most natural to me.

Yes, I'd even keep spending time posting on this website, though I suspect I'd be one of the only ones... maybe not...


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
    #5784392 - 06/23/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

No. Here is why Trendal. My theory is that people are inherently good. Societal structure and upbringing (which usually are intertwined relating to monatery status, etc) bring about the negative aspects. At this point in my life, I have pretty much ruled out the exsistence of any higher being, which a few months ago, I wouldn't have.

I try to be a good person. I try to be a kind person. I mean so much more than that, but that is the best way I can put it at the moment. I try to live like this life is all there is. I see nothing wrong with this.

I'm sorry I can't go into detail, I just can't place the words.


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: demiu5]
    #5784407 - 06/23/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

• Before you are born, you don’t exist
• After you die you don’t exist
• Why should living a life prevent you from living another after you die?


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
    #5784430 - 06/23/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

trendal said:
For a moment let's pretend that, through some trick of logic or scientific discovery, we were able to prove "beyond a doubt" that this "life" was all that there was - no afterlife or anything beyond this limited existence. For the sake of this thread, imagine this proof is strong enough for you yourself to believe it.

Would you change the way you live your life? If so, what would you change? Would you do anything drastic or extreme?




I wouldn't do anything drastic, but I'd change the way I think, enjoy myself more, wouldn't marry, and would try a little harder to have more money in my life, and I'd get a gun


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: zeegos]
    #5784443 - 06/23/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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• Before you are born, you don’t exist
• After you die you don’t exist
• Why should living a life prevent you from living another after you die?





I never said I did or didn't believe in reincarnation, if you want to call it that. Plus, I plan on living after death within the earth and possibly within other animals.


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: demiu5]
    #5784495 - 06/23/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"Before you are born, you don’t exist. After you die you don’t exist.
Why should living a life prevent you from living another after you die?" --Zeegos

"no afterlife or anything beyond this limited existence. For the sake of this thread, imagine this proof is strong enough for you yourself to believe it." --Trendal

Living a life would prevent you from living another after you die for the sake of argument, in this case.


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
    #5784517 - 06/23/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Would you change the way you live your life? If so, what would you change? Would you do anything drastic or extreme?




Life always changes.
I don't control everything, control is an ego fantasy.

So..
My life would change anyway, I would do the same thing I do everyday.
- Analyse - respond - judge -

Fun is fun, when there is fun.
And sadness or whatever will also be there.

But things that I would do..

Learn and teach, care, embrace and hope that dying will not be a painful longterm activity.  :smirk:


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Panoramix]
    #5784519 - 06/23/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

this thread is going to soon turn into a ridiculous debate because the whole topic is pure speculation as will all the answers put forth in this thread.


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: Panoramix]
    #5784521 - 06/23/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Living a life would prevent you from living another after you die for the sake of argument, in this case.




Thank you. That's the reason why I mentioned nothing about it in my first post.


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
    #5784554 - 06/23/06 06:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

trendal said:
For a moment let's pretend that, through some trick of logic or scientific discovery, we were able to prove "beyond a doubt" that this "life" was all that there was - no afterlife or anything beyond this limited existence. For the sake of this thread, imagine this proof is strong enough for you yourself to believe it.

Would you change the way you live your life? If so, what would you change? Would you do anything drastic or extreme?




IMO, such a position would be a highly rational one. As such, it seems as though anything deviating from this, such as a belief in an afterlife for each individual, should have the burden of proof to prove otherwise (at least if they feel the need to prove such a belief).

I try to live each moment as though it's the "last battle I'll ever have on earth." So I don't think I'd change much about the way I live. Would you?


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
    #5784567 - 06/23/06 06:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Would you change the way you live your life? If so, what would you change? Would you do anything drastic or extreme?




Considering the implications of your proposal, I must assert that, nei, I would not make much of any change in the manner in which I live my life, as I am already centered around my present experience.

As for this specific moment, I just put in one hell of a week at work, and now Tool's 10,000 Days is making a hell of a lot of noise in my living room, and I have consumed two hits of acid and some root beer. :lol:

Perhaps I would inject some sleep somewhere in the gaps that apparently weren't there to accomodate such sleep, but alas, what has transpired has brought this experience into being, and everyone realizes that an honorable captain goes down with his ship. :smirk:

:lol:

:shrug:

:earth: :sun: :headbang: :satansmoking:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: dblaney]
    #5784592 - 06/23/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

trendal said:
For a moment let's pretend that, through some trick of logic or scientific discovery, we were able to prove "beyond a doubt" that this "life" was all that there was - no afterlife or anything beyond this limited existence. For the sake of this thread, imagine this proof is strong enough for you yourself to believe it.

Would you change the way you live your life? If so, what would you change? Would you do anything drastic or extreme?




IMO, such a position would be a highly rational one. As such, it seems as though anything deviating from this, such as a belief in an afterlife for each individual, should have the burden of proof to prove otherwise (at least if they feel the need to prove such a belief).

I try to live each moment as though it's the "last battle I'll ever have on earth." So I don't think I'd change much about the way I live. Would you?




Exept that not every myth about afterlife is based on the idea of ghosts and spirits.

Some religions say that when a man dies he is dead, but will one day be recreated

that is a little harder to prove, because, the technical part is pretty much clear (we already know about genes, and how every life can be replicated), and what remains to be proved is the creator and his intent


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5784611 - 06/23/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Some religions say that when a man dies he is dead, but will one day be recreated

:shocked: I don't believe in zombie movies!!!


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: dblaney]
    #5784619 - 06/23/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Some religions say that when a man dies he is dead, but will one day be recreated

:shocked: I don't believe in zombie movies!!!




Nobody in hollywood ever suggested you should


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #5784634 - 06/23/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

To clarify, are you of the opinion that a 'myth' is something to be taken metaphorically, literally as fiction, or literally as fact?


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"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: dblaney]
    #5784666 - 06/23/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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dblaney said:
To clarify, are you of the opinion that a 'myth' is something to be taken metaphorically, literally as fiction, or literally as fact?




depends on the myth, but really I can't tell anyone how they are supose to take the myths, or wheather to take them seriously at all, it's all determined by your genes and the influence in your life


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Re: If this Life was all there Is [Re: trendal]
    #5784885 - 06/23/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Would you change the way you live your life? If so, what would you change? Would you do anything drastic or extreme?





No, not really.

I learned long ago, to not worry about what happens to me when I die, like many Christians do.

All that matters is "now".

I live my life for me.
Sounds greedy, but it isn't.

"Why don't you just start robbing and killing people and "live the good life?"

Because........
I like to have friends, people to hang out with.
In order for me to do that, I have to be a reasonably "nice guy".

Sad, angry greedy people, tend to live sad, angry greedy lives......
Happy, joyful generous people, tend to live happy, joyful and generous lives....

Life is akin to a mirror.

It reflects back, what you put in it.

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