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 euginer
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 another milk dunking Q 
#578383 - 03/14/02 01:21 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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I recently dunked some cakes in milk and noticed that the fluffy mycelium growth on the cakes came off with the milk. Some of the cakes look pretty bare and not very white. Is this normal? Should I incubate and let the mycelium recover or start initiating now?
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Re: another milk dunking Q [Re: euginer]
#578502 - 03/14/02 06:02 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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incubate a few days, you should get a nice new shiny white coat of mycellia growing soon.
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Re: another milk dunking Q [Re: Hippie3]
#578520 - 03/14/02 06:41 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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yeah what hippy said....the mycelium always recovers.
tell us how that milk dunking shit comes out, im still wanting to read up on that
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Re: another milk dunking Q [Re: iam_craig]
#578640 - 03/14/02 10:06 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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Any one using cakes should try original flavor rice dream or some other ricemilk. It works really well. If you look at the ingredients you'll see that its made from brown rice; exactly what the fungus is used to growing on anyway! Just take your cake put it back in its jar (make sure jar is clean), pour in some ricemilk most of the way to the top, fill the rest with hydogen peroxide, leave for ~18 hours. Take cake out, rinse with water, spray with a diluted peroxide solution and put back in terrarium.
Expect big repeating flushes!!
This method has been keeping me from casing cuz it seems to work better 
I'll still case but this method seems like an easy way to get similar or better results.
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 Re: another milk dunking Q [Re: psyphon]
#578649 - 03/14/02 10:17 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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What about sterility issues? Is it a factor for rice milk dunking? or not?
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psyphon
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Re: another milk dunking Q [Re: mrdasani]
#579242 - 03/14/02 11:26 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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As always, you want to be reasonably sterile, but once you have a colonized cake the fungus can fight off contaminates pretty well. The hydrogen peroxide, limit of ~18 hours (I'd say definitely no more than 24), and the rinsing after the dunk all help keep the cake from getting contaminated. Also one cool thing is that as the hydrogen peroxide naturally decomposes in the solution it releases oxygen which is good for the mycelium obviously and helps it keep from going anaerobic. An anaerobic situation would mean that only non oxygen breathing organisms (bacteria) would be living/surviving/multiplying.
In summary, just use the given technique and common sense and you should get great results! Oh and by the way, this can be done right after you birth the cake, just get rid of any extra vermiculite and dunk away! Get a bigger first flush!
Happy harvesting
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 Re: another milk dunking Q [Re: euginer]
#579298 - 03/15/02 12:25 AM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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When I dunked my cakes im milk I had to throw them out after about 2 days......it was the worst smell I have ever came across in my whole life!
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iam_craig
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Re: another milk dunking Q [Re: psyphon]
#579429 - 03/15/02 06:13 AM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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well, couldn't you just dunk the cake right after you birthed it, and then when its done crumble and throw in a casing? this seems like it would work, the casing would get some nutrients right before it has to recover from the crumble
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with milk, it's a very good idea to do the dunk under refridgeration, as it will quickly spoil at room temp.
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