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Unifloo
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About to dose
#5783172 - 06/23/06 08:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good morning shroomery! I have 8 woodrose seeds in my possesion, today seems like a good day to try em. Ive read up on erowid about the stuff but theres just a couple of things i need advise on.
1. The seeds are a deep brown in colour, some half covered in a bage coating. Is this the infamous coating or should i do away with the deep brown too?
2. So far today ive had a glass of milk and a banana. How big of a difference will eating something bfore hand have on the experience?
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trampis
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Re: About to dose [Re: Unifloo]
#5783353 - 06/23/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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eating always takes away from the trip for me, so if you want the full effects i suggest flushing your body out with water and if you need to eat then eat an orange... ....vitamin c = good
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Unifloo
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Re: About to dose [Re: trampis]
#5783460 - 06/23/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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At 3.30 i crushed the seeds and let them soak in water for an hour. Its been about 70 minutes since i drank the water and ate the mulch. I'm begining to notice some threshold effects along with some muscle cramping. Just popped a vitamin C tab
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Unifloo
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Re: About to dose [Re: Unifloo]
#5783646 - 06/23/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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My pupils are immense. Visuals are slight and curving. Good vibe. Acid must be fucking classic
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mightyjoepipe
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Re: About to dose [Re: Unifloo]
#5783675 - 06/23/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i was just reading at lyceaum about lsa and it got me wanting to do them...hope your having fun dude cause im gonna buy some a.s.a.p like 500 seeds should do but ill try 1000 just for the hell of it lol....here in ontario canada it cost like 1.50$ per pack of 50 seeds so it would be a lil expensive but well worth it i think, thats heavenly blues mg.
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aNeway2sayHooray
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You dont want to eat the seeds purchased from a store.They are coated with pesticides and fungicides.If you are going to consume morning glory seeds,buy the seeds and plant them.
Or order some Woodrose seeds from a vendor.
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Unifloo
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I got my seeds from a head shop, i dont think they would have been sprayed with any mean shit. Still feelin a bit nauseous and its been 3 hours. Just starting to eat again. Hopefully that'll give me a lift. I like this buzz, no confusion, no panic or fear that usually accompanies shrooms
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Re: About to dose [Re: Unifloo]
#5783727 - 06/23/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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No,I doubt the seeds you have have been tainted in anyway.
I was referring to mightyjoepipe.He said he was buying the packets of Heavenly Blue morning glorys from a store.
Your HBWR are fine.But store bought morning glorys are not.
How do your legs feel?Is the cramping bad?Do you know which strain HWBR seeds you have?
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Re: About to dose [Re: Unifloo]
#5784129 - 06/23/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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HBWR gives alot of people nausea, they best way to get rid of that is to eat your seeds with a shot of pure lemon juice.
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LightShedder
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ever considered a polar/nonpolar extraction?its fairly simple and doesn't require too many materials (all of which are legally and easily obtainable) im new here so I don't know if yall got a forum already describing the process but here it is anyways....
grind up seeds (lets say 150 HBWR seeds just as an example, but you can use any number really just make sure you apply the number correctly when measuring out the dosage) to a fine powder. let the powder soak in petroleum ether for 2-3 days(this is sold at many hardware stores, in fact ive obtained some from wal-mart before, under the name Naptha. coleman's camp fuel and other various OTC things contain it. just read what the labels say the solvent contains). after soaking, filter the seedmush and discard the liquid(petroluem ether) let the rest of the naptha completely evaporate off of the seeds so that they are again completely dry. then soak the seeds in 15 mL of everclear (or any other high proof alcohol) for another 2 days or so. filter the seedmush again but this time keep the liquid (everclear) this step can be repeated for a slightly higher yield or you can just discard the seedmush and use the 15 mL of everclear you have. the everclear now contains all of the good alkaloids (well most of them at least) from the seeds without the bad chemicals responsible for many of the negative side effects that go along with straight seed ingestion. you can then seperate the 15 mL out into 15 individual 1 mL doses that contain approximately 10 seeds worth of alkaloids. (assuming you want your doses to be 10 seeds worth) you can dissolve the one mL out into a drink and just drink it in liquid form or you can seperate the 1 mL individual doses into dixie cups or something and let the alcohol evaporate off. this will leave an orangish gunk. these are lysergic acid amides. you can encapsulate this gunk or just eat it or you know... whatever.... you can find some way to ingest it im sure. so yeah... hope this helped someone enjoy some natural Lsas a little easier.
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phungi
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That sounds cool as hell. Does the LSA carry a good "peak" in it?
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mightyjoepipe
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i dont bother washing them but its a good idea and ive tripped a couple of times on these seeds without doing anything but eating them straight so its your choice i havent puked or anything ever on mg's,but tusually without washing or extracting this is verry expected..i dont care much about puking since it has its own high all together..head rush shaking legs...thats about it lol
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colimon
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I heard that you're supposed to peel off the seeds because they contain pesticides that add on to the nausia... Have fun though...
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Re: About to dose [Re: colimon]
#5786779 - 06/24/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The outter layer of the seed contains mostly cyanide so that can go.. but once your inside you will still have some traces of the toxin Uhm.. to get rid of the nausea, remove the outter skin and crush the seeds, mix into lemon juice, sublingual it for 15-30 minutes and you'll have all the euphoria with no nausea!
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: About to dose [Re: Unifloo]
#5786923 - 06/24/06 04:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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first time I did hbwr that were good I did them sublingually(held them between gums and lower lip for about 30mins) I then started to feel like I was sick with a cold or something so I got into bed and slept...when I woke up I had a distinct "acid feeling" I found it to be quite enjoyable(tho it felt slightly toxic) but without the visuals acid is known for...since then I have always eaten the seeds and I have not had the sick feeling again(no nausea either) but I am unique in that I have a very strong stomach...I've never even puked from alcohol(tho I have passed out from it...it was either pass out or I was gonna puke from the spins...luckily I ended up just passing out cause I fuckin hate the feeling right before u heave)
btw I also scraped the seeds that I used sublingually(and all others as well)
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stemmer
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I have used HBWR and MG's many times. Lots of what you hear is total bullcrap and is misleading.
Mgs bought from the store can be very effective and even if they have all sorts of unwanted crap all over them, you are not going to feel much more ill than if you bought organic seeds from a vendor.
Also, unless your HBWR seeds are hairy, no need to prepare them beyond crushing them up and using the method that the threadmaker has used.
8 seeds can be VERY intense if they are top notch seeds, but even if they are that good, the visuals are very different and not everyone sees them as easily. Often the psychedelic effects are overshadowed by sickness, or the feeling of being let down or thinking "what the hell did I just do to myself". SOme people dont get very sick at all.
Some seeds are so potent that to eat more than 12 of them is VERY intense. (the peak lasts longer than lsd, as does the entire experience).
Just though id clear the air. It can be a heavy duty hallucinogen. Just dont buy the ghana or indian strains. From some vendors, thats all they carry. For others, they are the cheapest type and with VERY good reason.
Edited by stemmer (06/24/06 04:41 PM)
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: About to dose [Re: stemmer]
#5787029 - 06/24/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have had seeds that had 0 effects no matter how much I used...really there was only one source(it was a dude handing them out for testing purposes) that I would consider high quality...and your right...8 can be very intense if the seeds are good(there are some slight visuals ime that remind me of acid but its nowhere near as intense)
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Iamthewalrus
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mgs taste so nasty(and u need so many) they taste like dog food smells...if I ever used from this source again I would definitely do an extract(tho I would probably skip the the first part of the extract and just use some everclear)
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stemmer
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I like the more traditional style of crushing/soaking in water and then drinking the water and pulp. That or just eating them(chewed well). Personally, its because I have never gotten anything but stomach cramps and a feeling of coming down with a cold(excess mucous and a heady feeling). In the numerous amount of times I have used them I dont even really feel even that shitty physically.
You really do have to eat them to get the full effect(or extract). Sublingual doesnt work nearly as well. When you eat a bunch of HBWR at the same time you peak in 2.5-3 hours. If you know what I mean.
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: About to dose [Re: stemmer]
#5787070 - 06/24/06 05:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have had success with sublingual but I think u need to keep those seeds(crushed up before hand in a coffee grinder or something similar as well) in your mouth for a long long time...and I really don't think it makes much difference in the experience anyways so I agree eating is more logical(but again I don't get sick from them so I'm not the best person to get advice on avoiding nausea) for all I know it could be the lsa itself causing these effects but only a pure extract compared to eating seeds would tell u that(and even then its only personal experience)
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stemmer
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All I can think of is ginger tea and not too many acidic or spicey foods for MANY hours before ingestion. A good diet will certainly help out a bit. You dont want an unhealthy fatigued stomach to have to deal with these types of seeds.
I see what you mean though, sublingual works just fine, but its more of a bitch and is less efficiant, besides the fact that it does avoid the nausea that some people just cant seem to avoid when using lsa seeds.
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: About to dose [Re: stemmer]
#5787091 - 06/24/06 05:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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there are probably many ways to avoid nausea(maybe even gravol I don't know)...if I were one that got sick on them I would either research the fuck outta it or not eat them at all cause as I said I HATE puking(not so much the actual puking part but the feeling of being disconnected from your body and in a lot of pain right before)
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Weebl8bob
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Nah, ive never vomited from them.. just makes my stomach hurt real bad and that makes me nauseated
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Unifloo
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Re: About to dose [Re: Weebl8bob]
#5788664 - 06/25/06 05:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Overall i must say that i enjoyed the experience. It took me 4 hours to peak (9pm) and i was still felling the effects at 6am. I was barely able to go to work at 8am. I didnt expect to trip that long! The visuals were much more than i expected, warping, contorting, bubbling, distorion.
And through all of this there was no confusion and paranoia. I was actually able to have a conversation with a friend on the phone. The only negative was the nausea. I tried to make myself sick +2hrs with no luck. I felt slighty better after but i wasnt comfortable enought to walk freely until about +12rs.
I think next time i'll grind the seeds finer and let them soak for a lot longer to hopefully reduce the nausea. I found the experience to be very creative and sometimes insightfull but nowhere near so as a mushroom trip.
Highly recommended!
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