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 rebelmoon
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 where is that rotten aples smell coming from!?! 
#578123 - 03/13/02 07:15 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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hi. my friend of a friend had a couple of jars contaminate w/ bacteria (rye grain in quart jars, rotten apple smell). the foaf disposed of these two jars and all the others seem *fine*. but every time the foaf opens their incubator they get that same whiff of stinky stink. they have checked each jar closely for signs of contams and find nothing! sooo... where do you think the rotten appleas are hiding?!? the foaf thought maybe a bacteria was growing in the incubator itself and has sprayed disinfectant *all over* in there a couple times now. the foaf sprayed again today and put their hepa filter in the incubator to air it out for a while.. other than that they are stumped as to what to do. help???
thanks.
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 cookiewhore
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 Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!?! [Re: rebelmoon]
#578141 - 03/13/02 07:29 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Afoaf cracked a jar like that today too. it was a very wet, slow colonizing grain
i doubt its in the chamber.
i only assume its some contam, but the funny thing is, its an invisible one.
the grain was VERY wet.
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Swami
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Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!?! [Re: rebelmoon]
#578150 - 03/13/02 07:47 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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If your terrarium or parts of it are plastic, you will need to soak in a bleach solution. Plastic is semi-porous and can trap particles that will keep the odor going for a long time.
Gak! That smell makes me gag!
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shaggymane
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 Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!?! [Re: rebelmoon]
#578151 - 03/13/02 07:47 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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you win bacillus(wetspot bacterium) . cookiewhore my mommy told me not to play with you
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shaggymane
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Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!?! [Re: rebelmoon]
#578163 - 03/13/02 08:07 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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did you pc the grain if so maybe it's the tools or you(your hands)or the air .
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bluhoney
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Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!?! [Re: shaggymane]
#578322 - 03/13/02 11:54 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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You may want to lower your moisture content in your substrate to combat wet-spot also.:)bluehoney
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Mitchnast
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Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!?! [Re: bluhoney]
#578334 - 03/14/02 12:03 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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more air exchange!
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rebelmoon
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 Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!? [Re: Mitchnast]
#578761 - 03/14/02 12:31 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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but all the grain is colonized and no bad smell is coming from the jars... im gonna tell my foaf to test the porous plastic theory. do you think the stink is caught in the plastic or is the bacteria still alive in it? the foaf doused the entire insides of the incubator three or so times over the last week with a strong disinfectant spray.
also last night they took the jars out and separated them into different areas and when they sniffed a few hours later none of the new areas smelled (yay!). but the incubator *still did*. so yeah i think it might be the incubator itself. weird, eh?
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Seuss
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Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!? [Re: rebelmoon]
#578819 - 03/14/02 01:39 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Look for sticky clear to grey/brown mucus like areas in the incubator that dry out into a white film. Its a pain in the ass to get rid of once you have it... the sticky grey/brown mucus is the vegetative-bacteria and the white film is the endospore-bacteria. You have to get rid of both or you will be right back where you started from. I soaked everything in a strong bleach/water solution for several hours, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat... dry... then wipe it all down again with a 10% isopropal alcohol solution. Anything that could stand the heat went into the autoclave for 1.5 hrs at 28psi or into the oven at 350F for 3.5 hrs.
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Swami
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Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!? [Re: rebelmoon]
#578913 - 03/14/02 04:23 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Always trust the Swam. He never lies.
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pleezr
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Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!? [Re: rebelmoon]
#579166 - 03/14/02 09:35 PM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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rebel, you fawker! now i got the bad apple smell! smells just like a rotten apple too  i woke up this morning to thee smell, i knew it was a bad jar of rye! i could ralf after that shit.
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rebelmoon
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Re: where is that rotten aples smell coming from!? [Re: pleezr]
#584879 - 03/21/02 02:05 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha! so heres an update on where that fuckin smell was coming from. not the plastic (sorry swami) -- somehow one of the colonizing jars had fallen *under* the lid into the water with the aquarium heater!!! arrrgh! how the fuck did that happe??? of coarse once a bunch of water had soaked through the filter the jar was a goner -- more nasty nasty wet bacteria-ridden grain than my friends ever seen!!! eew that was gross to clean...
but once it was outta there the stinky stink has wafted away never to return (lets hope).
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