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Try Salvia??
    #5780936 - 06/22/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

high all. First of all I would like to say that I/we don't use entheogens lightly, or just for a party.

With that in mind, I was considering using some salvia divinorum for spiritual and visionary purposes.

I am fishing for advise and counsel. From seekers more experienced than me. Thanx....Phungi. :mushroom2:


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5781033 - 06/22/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldnt recommend it. Unless you have researched (I'm sure you have)at www.erowid.org. It is pretty intense. It blows shrooms out of the water. It is more comparable to a HIGH dose on orange sunshine lsd pills (not for beginners). If you descide to try it I wouldnt go over 5x extract. At 20x+ I was seeing the room melt.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5781042 - 06/22/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

If you're looking to do soul searching, let me suggest you cultivate some salvia. You can get s. divinorum on ebay for pretty cheap, and if you help take care of the good lady, she will be much kinder to you in return.

Other than that, I reccomend you get a good spotter who is able to hold you down if need be. I've experienced a full mind/body disconnect, and if I hadn't had a 300lb hulk to keep me pinned I probobly would've ended up running out into traffic.

Finally, don't fight anything that comes into your head. Be a passive observer and learn. Unlike most other hallucinogens salvia doesn't tend to make you feel happy, and some of the things you might see will scare the living piss out of you. But it will teach you many, many things.

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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: wiggles]
    #5781175 - 06/22/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well let me tell you about my first experience with salvia. My friends and I seem to be similar as yourself. We use ethos for an experience purpose. Anyways back to my first time with salvia.

My first time I did 15x extract. I did not fully realize just how strong this plant is. I went into it expecting to feel a strong trip but, I didn't realize just how strong it was going to be.

Our first mistake was we did it with the lights on. Salvia makes your eyes very sensitive to light. The light seems to suck everything towards it. Also we had music playing. Not sure how others feel about music while using salvia but for me it almost adds anxiety no matter how chill it is.

Well here is what we did. We loaded a large bowl with the dried extract. Probably too much extract. We smoked from a water bong with ice in it and used a torch lighter to burn it.

Ok so I take the bong and completly burn as much of the bowl as possible in one rip. Then I held the hit as long as humanly possible. The very second... I mean the second I exhaled I was ripped from reality. I stood straight up (was sitting indian style) and looked over at my friends. They were both standing on either side of a light on the wall. When I looked at them all I could see was rainbow colors everywhere and thier heads and body were being sucked into the light. Next thing I know I feel as if the light behind me is sucking me into it. I feel as if I have to get away and in my head i hear singing that sounds like a woman or children saying ding, dong here it comes, you will not make it out alive. I found out later that my friends had put on the doors no one here gets out alive while i was tripping. Not a good idea.

Let me tell you I have tripped many times over a few hundred times and nothing has totally ripped me from this world like salvia. I did come to enjoy it once i was able to better control it and kind knew what to expect (you never know whats coming when you smoke salvia at high levels).

So if you do decide to do it becareful make sure you have sober sitters and I would reccomend doing in darkness or low lighting in silence. Maybe start out at lower doses.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #5781394 - 06/22/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'd just like to share that I recently smoked some of this mysterious extract herb and unfortunately didnt get as hard tripped as I've read others have, actually, Im still feeling the effects as we speak, but it was no mind blowing experience...I'd prefer to say it was more like "mind bending"....as if I could walk up the sides of walls, though never have I been instantanously high like that before (no needles).

Perhaps the 10x extract wasnt made properly, or that Im a tolerant toad. I'd hate to read people over exagerating the effects and go kill the fun of it in everyone's opinion, if you know what Im talking about (legislation)..Word seems to have already spread about this and in my opinion, its very tolerable , not dangerous...though, when my uncle slammed a toke of it, he was hanging backwards off his chair mumbling incoherant words and trying to laugh. It was actually quite funny...Very different feeling, very unique. I got mostley a heavy gravitational feed and sorta slowed me down some made it difficult to focus on specific things...I dont see myself getting heavy into it though. I dont like this dizzyness much and there was no trancient visual awarness, though I might have to read up on the cultural aspects of this a bit more, perhaps im missing somthing.

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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: WIZOLZ]
    #5781591 - 06/22/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hey everybody, thanx for the great replies. :grin:
I think that I will carefully consider how to proceed. I already told the chick at the head shop to order me some of the 10x stuff, and was planning to use it for a Full Moon ritual on July 11th (of course). My wife will be with me and she won't smoke any this time. When the salvia wears off we will both take our Sacramental Shrooms for the continuation of the ritual.

The dude at another head shop that I went to had bags of 40x salvia for $40 but I passed on it cause of what I've read on erowid. 10x should be strong enough for my purposes. Thanx agian for the responses. :grin: :grin:

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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5781601 - 06/22/06 07:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wow 40x... I couldn't imagin what that would be like. 10x is a pretty good starting place. Not too strong but strong enough for you to get the idea of how powerfull it really is. I think when you get 15x and higher it gets very intense. Atleast in my experiences it has been


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5781660 - 06/22/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yea wiggles, I can see how growing her would be much more spiritual than just buying/smoking, I will look into it, I do like to garden;), but I don't think that I could produce any usable material before July 11th...lol.

How would one concentrate the potency of plant material that he cultivated himself? Any-body know?


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #5781681 - 06/22/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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wow 40x... I couldn't imagin what that would be like. 10x is a pretty good starting place. Not too strong but strong enough for you to get the idea of how powerfull it really is. I think when you get 15x and higher it gets very intense. Atleast in my experiences it has been



Thats why I passed on the 40x shit. I don't want my first time to give me heart failure :crazy:

On the other hand, maybe a guy could just take a really, really, tiny, tiny toke of the 40x and not go insane.

Anyone on here ever smoked 40x or close to it?


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5781738 - 06/22/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

shit i have tried like 5 times with 5x and no luck! im going to try 40x!


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: new_to_shrooms]
    #5781759 - 06/22/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just use waaay less of the 40x, and burn it hot!! Keep inhaling after you think you got it all. Think .02-.04 gram doses. I usaully use 20x, and have tried 40x. I have a gram of 80x just because.
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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5781785 - 06/22/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Just use waaay less of the 40x, and burn it hot!! Keep inhaling after you think you got it all. Think .02-.04 gram doses. I usaully use 20x, and have tried 40x. I have a gram of 80x just because.
Peace and safe journey to all




I didn't even know there was an 80x. Man somone getting a hold of that and not know what they are doing could be devistating. 80x!!!!! Have you tried it? Oh and do tell of 40x im very curious of that level my highest was a 25x and it was pretty nuts. Again.. we smoke large bowls probably way larger than normal


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #5781848 - 06/22/06 08:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yea deadhead, I wanna hear about the 40x trip!!! And If you have smoked any of the 80x please do tell. My wife is reading some of this shit and telling me NO! Not to do it! Hmmmm......have to listen to my goddess. What do you guys think? I'm a rational man :crazy2:

entheogens and shamanism intrigue me and I like to push the envelope, my wife not as much. :mad: Although she loves the shrooms, for religious use only.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5781859 - 06/22/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i have heard of like 180x or maybe it was just 120 but yea i read that somewhere on this site


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: new_to_shrooms]
    #5781893 - 06/22/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure that salvia chooses those who should experience those... and disappoint (or frightens) who shouldn't. For me she was far more powerful than mushrooms or anything else I've tried. When you are tripping VERY hard on psychedelics everything melts, including your identity. On salvia - it's far beyond that point. It's where visions kick in! Good luck!


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: Kras]
    #5781917 - 06/22/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

stupid illegalizing movement...

what do think is happening?...

"Well, officer, This drive was starting to bore me, so I decided to take a few hits of salvia. I really DID NOT THINK it would be sooo powerful...well i guess all those kids my car molested while i was being a terrorist and treasant were real huh? wow, what a trip!"

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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: AA2277]
    #5782027 - 06/22/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

has anyone mixed slavia with weed?

i've done 5x and straight leaves before without any psychedelic effects, just a weed-like stoning. i heard a story from a guy who did one hit of 10x and everything turned into static (like on television) and he spent his entire trip making rectangles in the air with his fingers.

i think i want to try salvia with weed and shrooms. make it an ultimate experience.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5782059 - 06/22/06 09:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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My wife is reading some of this shit and telling me NO! Not to do it! Hmmmm......have to listen to my goddess. What do you guys think? I'm a rational man :crazy2:

entheogens and shamanism intrigue me and I like to push the envelope, my wife not as much. :mad: Although she loves the shrooms, for religious use only.




Yes it does seem frightening but, ultimately I'm glad that I did experience salvia. I really don't know if you want to do it before a mushroom trip though. You may not want to eat the mushrooms after you experience it. The good thing about salvia is if you don't enjoy it or are frightened, it will all be over in 5-15 minutes. So there isn't much risk at trying it.

If you want the experenice then I say go for it. I don't think you will want to do it on a night that you want to be deep and meaningful unless you do it at the end of the night. Maybe start the night with your mushrooms and if you feel moved to meet lady salvia then do it.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #5782092 - 06/22/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thanx Teddy, that sound like good advise.

Our Full Moon rituals are always meaningful, and a good time for samcramental shrooms. I will probably take your advise and experience the Lady Salvia on another occasion....if my wife allows it.

Still waiting to hear about that 40x salvia trip....or the 80x!!!!! :eek:


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5782937 - 06/23/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I am not sure how to put this:
while ritual and spiritual set-ups are fine to tame the beast.
the salvia opportunity is different, the sudden shift can leave you resonating - it moves to a rhythm that is out of all life all at once.

i.e. magic circles and pentagrams limit nothing - all of life rushes through like a busy railway station. all powered by association and abstraction.

proceed gently. no expectations. keep beginning to relax. that works for pretty much whatever ensues.

the higher powered extracts 20x and up, usually lead to mistakes in dosage since each person's succeptibility may be different, and to complicate matters there is nearly no good way to measure hits (natural variance of the salvinorin content).

too much is just like getting stuck in one mental mode for 5 minutes or so. some report screaming for 5 minutes - with no recollection, some report wandering mindlessly seeking assistance. the moderate dosages are interesting.

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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5783038 - 06/23/06 05:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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i.e.  magic circles and pentagrams limit nothing - all of life rushes through like a busy railway station. all powered by association and abstraction.





So little faith!! Magic circles limit EVERYTHING!! :cool: However I do see your point. I have found Mushrooms to be very helpful within the circle, for divination of a certian situation, or for getting visions and communing with spirits. My wife also feels the same way about the Shrooms. I was thinking that I could control (or semi-control) a visit with the Lady of the Salvia that I have read so much about, I suspect that She is another expression of the Goddess. I am curious to find out. But you know the old sayin...curiousity killed the cat, (but I'm no pussy!!!) :wink:

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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5783093 - 06/23/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

what goes 'round comes 'round - nature of the circle
symbolic of procession of time, like matryoska (russian dolls)

you are in your own skin in your own skin in your own skin
the circle reminds you of this expansion illusion.

but that metaphorical lady knows no limits.
control is fallacy - even a proxy of control is fallacy.

I am looking forwards to your report
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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5783139 - 06/23/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Take one, good hit of x20 extract and you will find yourself non-existent. What will be left? Who will be the observer? What will you see when you and whole world is gone? I felt like dead-man that journeyed to the Heaven.

If any of your daemons stop you from entering then Salvia will be quite gentle. You will be shocked but you won't freak out. Probably :wink:

P.S. For me 2 hits of x15 extract was enough to launch me on trip level 5. Beyond that is only amnesia, so why to even bother with stronger things? If you won't get there on this then you are not ready. It's more about spiritual readiness then dosage. Just read who and how write their trip rapports...


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: Kras]
    #5783144 - 06/23/06 07:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I got it. I understand what you are saying about readiness.

When I experienced a lvl 5 on shrooms it was totally unexpected and the doseage was not that much.

The open-ness of my spirit is what facilitated the ego loss and the lvl 5 experience, I believe.

I have no intentions of approaching the Diviners Sage with anything but respect....and I will try to keep my expectations to a minimum.

After reading so many salvia trip reports though its hard not to form some expectations. You know what I mean?


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5783222 - 06/23/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

We got some 10x sometime last year. Didn't even make it through my second hit, I forgot why I was holding the water bong in my hand and the magic began.

I don't like reading other people's reports because most people seem to say they smoke a bowl of salvia, when in reality you only need two hits of 10, or one hit of 20 (to avoid the damage of not making it through second hit).

Although everyone's different, and with a little discretion added with this statement mind you, I think everyone should try salvia at least once. You don't even have to do high doses, just take a glimpse into the salvia world.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: mellowrubberduck]
    #5783658 - 06/23/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The concentration (X) just makes it so you use less.
It takes a few times, using the same strength, to get it right. Level 5 (amnesia) is kinda pointless, and easily reached with the higher X's. The key is to find the correct method/dose to reach level 3+, possibly sliding into 4.
Salvia is not for most people. It can be scary as hell, and most who try it won't try it again. For those She lets into her world, a valueable ally and teacher awaits!!
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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5784074 - 06/23/06 02:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

cool. I'll continue my research for a while before dancing with the salvia.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5784140 - 06/23/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Start with low doses ( non-breakthru ) to get a feel for her. One good toke with a hot flame of 10x on a pile the size of a grain of rice worked as an intro for me. But people's sensitivity is always different.
And wait for it. It takes a minute or so to hit. You can always increase your dosage on the next try.
The Rise and Split happens so quietly and quick, you hardly have time to notice. Before you realize you might be feeling something, you are already gone!! Pinned and in another world.

Take your time, research and learn, and start slow and low.
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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5784195 - 06/23/06 03:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Always a pleasure to listen to your even-headed advise there deadhead. Thats exactly what I will do, slow and low.

Anything that you could add to set my wifes mind at ease? She would be my babysitter, or I guess I could get my brother.

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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: phungi]
    #5784303 - 06/23/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html has a page that's full of info. Also included is a section for the sitter.
It's best to have a sitter who is sxperienced in salvia. So just include your wife as you learn.
My wife and I have an agreement- I can take whatever I want,as much as I want, as long as I take it in front of her.I have kept her in the loop as far as info goes, and she has agreed to sit for me when I need one. She has experience and knowledge, although she has not taken salvia. Doesn't appeal to her.
She is also a R.N., and keeps me safe when I'm "out there".
The most important part of chosing a sitter is trust. Do you trust this person to not fuck with you, but be reassuring and calm, and to keep your best intrests above all else while you are tripping? Your wife sounds like a good choice, if she's willing...
I have started low, worked my way up, and now take Grate pride/pleasure in propogating this beautiful plant.
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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5784326 - 06/23/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Damn dude!!! Right on. Your wife sounds cool as hell.

Yea my wife is the best and I trust her completely, she just worries that I'm going to melt my mind :adam1975:

We have had some very beautiful experiences together with the Sacred Mushrooms, and she has baby-sat for me on my own solo Mushroom journeys.

Just reading some of the trip reports on the salvia freaked her out and she said "you don't need to take it that far". Although she was present during my ego-loss on Mushrooms. Some people make salvia sound even more intense.

Phungi :mushroom2:


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #5784333 - 06/23/06 04:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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TrippinTeddy said:
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deadheadjpc2000 said:
Just use waaay less of the 40x, and burn it hot!! Keep inhaling after you think you got it all. Think .02-.04 gram doses. I usaully use 20x, and have tried 40x. I have a gram of 80x just because.
Peace and safe journey to all




I didn't even know there was an 80x. Man somone getting a hold of that and not know what they are doing could be devistating. 80x!!!!! Have you tried it? Oh and do tell of 40x im very curious of that level my highest was a 25x and it was pretty nuts. Again.. we smoke large bowls probably way larger than normal




I used 80X once.... Crawling around in a jungle I was.  :eek:


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5784564 - 06/23/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It comes down to the amount of material you want to smoke. Check it, G:

Based upon 1 gram 1X (whole leaf)= 1 "dose"
then

1/5th of 5X= .2 gram
1/10th of 10X= .1 gram
1/20th of 20X=.05 gram
1/40th of 40X=.025 gram
1/80th of 80X=.0125 gram

As you can see, you need a fuckin' accurate scale in order to get the correct average dose when dealing with the higher extractions.
That's how people who try to be cool and take "some of the 40X that I just got, Dude!! Whoa, fucked me up!!" As you can bet they took more than .05 grams!!
It's not the X, it's the mindset before partaking, the correct amount for the strength of extract, and the method used.
Just my .02
And, yes, my wife is my best friend!!
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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5784849 - 06/23/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I use stronger extracts for stronger experiences. not so I don't have to smoke as much.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: new_to_shrooms]
    #5784964 - 06/23/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia Divinorum is a very spiritual plant, but you may find you feel hot, paranoid and dirty on it. I've had 2 and 1/2 bad experiences with it and 1/2 good. I did it because I believe in those spiritually... I found out stuff about nature and god: nature is dying and god want's it to stop (that's the impression I got).


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do with piecing together new thoughts of mind. Why is it that people think it's
so evil? What is it about it that there is scares people so deeply? Because
they are afraid that there is more to reality than they have ever confronted.
That there are doors that they're afraid to go in and they don't want us to go
in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they
don't know. And that makes us a little out of their control.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: colimon]
    #5785985 - 06/24/06 04:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's not always about approach, colimon. Maybe it's not your time. I've had an awesome experience and I've heard "you are not ready".

phugi: for me Salvia is far cleaner then mushroom trip. On typical psychedelics you will mess a lot with your ego, problems, life, etc. On Salvia it's all gone. Besides if you are not ready then She won't fuck you up. Those bad trips are not pleasant but when you are trapped in your ego on LSD or Cacti it can be far more damaging to your psyche. Your women don't have to worry. My did but after seeing what happened on my Journey she was even thinking about giving it a try.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: Kras]
    #5786008 - 06/24/06 04:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

5 minutes
just 5 minutes

not enough time to screw up too badly no matter how wrong you go.
not enough time to create a terrible nightmare for your sitter either.

on the good side, well I wait your report.


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Re: Try Salvia?? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #5786018 - 06/24/06 05:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It may be a while before I go on my jouney. But when I do I will come on the board and report.


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