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GnuBobo
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Thinking of using a large rubbermaid for an oyster grow
#5776929 - 06/21/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was going to use straw and inoculate that with grain, I'd just be putting this thing outside and seeing what happens. Is this going to be feasible, given the straw probably won't stay compacted? Should I go to wood shavings (those do stay compacted nicely). I've just never worked with soaked straight straw before as a medium.
And where the hell do people get those columnar bags that RR had in that post about oysters?
Thanks.
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falcon


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Re: Thinking of using a large rubbermaid for an oyster grow [Re: GnuBobo]
#5777089 - 06/21/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey Gnubobo, straw is usually pasteurized for oyster, dunked in 170 F bath or steamed at 170F for an hour after soaking. It will probably work with just a soaking if you add enough spawn.
The Rubbermaid container should work if its not too large, if it gets to big the center of straw is likely to get bacterial contamination.
I'm not sure where you get the columnar bags, you can stuff some straw in a plastic grocery bag or a small garbage bag after adding spawn for small grow.
It's best to chop the straw before pasteurizing, it will work without chopping though.
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MrMolotov
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Re: Thinking of using a large rubbermaid for an oyster grow [Re: falcon]
#5777218 - 06/21/06 05:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeash the best thing i have are these food saver bags just put a layer of straw and layer of spawn till your all done with spawn then just stuff the top with a buig chunk of poly fill and it will colonise up nice then just slit the bag when its time to fruit. i have some ziplocks just open nothing seems to be contaminating them
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GnuBobo
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Re: Thinking of using a large rubbermaid for an oyster grow [Re: MrMolotov]
#5777295 - 06/21/06 05:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks, guys. I was going to pasteurize the straw, and chop and soak it, of course. Those columnar bags seem to keep the straw packed tight; I'm not sure if the straw would stay tightly packed in a rubbermaid.
That anaerobic problem at the center is also something to keep in mind. Hmmm.... I have some relatively shallow rubbermaid containers ~6 inches deep. That might be all right. Would I need to case something like that with oysters? The container I'm talking about is around 20 inches wide, 36 inches long, 6 inches deep.
Thanks.
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falcon


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Re: Thinking of using a large rubbermaid for an oyster grow [Re: GnuBobo]
#5778122 - 06/21/06 08:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You don't need a casing with oyster. They are though, usually grown in a closed container with holes punched in it, the oysters fruit through the holes. The lower CO2 where the holes are is important in iniatiating fruit bodies. The container sort of acts as a casing, holding moisture in.
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GnuBobo
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Re: Thinking of using a large rubbermaid for an oyster grow [Re: falcon]
#5778598 - 06/21/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, dammit, now I need to find a cheap source for those columnar bags!
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Re: Thinking of using a large rubbermaid for an oyster grow [Re: falcon]
#5780701 - 06/22/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
falcon said:
The Rubbermaid container should work if its not too large, if it gets to big the center of straw is likely to get bacterial contamination.
~falcon
Biggest is the container, better it is for less concentration of gaz and better control of humidity. Less contaminations.
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Re: Thinking of using a large rubbermaid for an oyster grow [Re: micololo2]
#5781751 - 06/22/06 07:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can buy plastic tubing from Graingers. They have it in various diameters on 1000 foot rolls. You can get it cut in smaller lengths from stamets, but it's spendy.
If you grow oysters in a tub, make sure you give them lots of air exchange and light. Oysters need both. Also, if you grow them in trays or in a tub, build a rack of some kind to put on top of the straw with some rocks or other weight to hold it down. You'll get better performance from straw if you colonize it with slight compression.
You can also save old bread wrappers to use, but be careful packing them because of the thin material. Food saver type bags also work well, as will the largest zip locs. RR
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