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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5779765 - 06/22/06 07:27 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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SirTripAlot said:
I think its fear. The enemy knows that the United States does not mess around.





:lol:

You can't possibly believe that.

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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5779927 - 06/22/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The IRA was a very effective group no doubt, but they could never exceed the amount of destruction and death that AQII brought upon Iraq in a 3 year period.

Have al-qaeda brought much death and destruction to Iraq? I thought the general consensus was that zarkawi was very much a fringe figure and that most of the violence is by Iraqis who had nothing to do with al-qaeda.

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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5779937 - 06/22/06 09:35 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I think if the terrorists smartened up they would just straight up target oil refineries or electrical grids

My guess is the oil refineries are guarded up the ass and are pretty much impregnable. They have been blowing oil pipes tho.

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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: Alex213]
    #5779977 - 06/22/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I heard this on NPR, its not an exact quote:

Host: Are you saying the war is about oil, and not just about a war on terrorism?
Ted Coppel: Of course it's about oil! It's always been about oil. Ever since we've had conflicts in the region it's been with the intention to stabilize for oil trade, it's always been about oil.

Ted Coppel is a well respected journalist. I already suspected this idea, many people preach it, "no more blood for oil", etc, etc. But to hear it from a highly educated public figure was a bit of an eye opener. This war has a hidden agenda, I don't think any of us can say for sure what is going on.


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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: OJK]
    #5779981 - 06/22/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Odiumjunkie said:
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SirTripAlot said:
I think its fear. The enemy knows that the United States does not mess around.





:lol:

You can't possibly believe that.





Are you from the thought police?

I do belive that.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5779987 - 06/22/06 09:56 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't believe religious terrorists are afraid of anything other than not being able to go to their God after death.

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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: Redstorm]
    #5780013 - 06/22/06 10:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I believe every man, no matter what race or religion, is afraid to die. I remember right before going into Iraq, everyone in my platoon, was talking so much shit, about war. Things got real quite when the first black body bags showed up.

It is possible to conquer your fear....like the Kamikaze pilots of WW2, but it still exists to conquer....


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: OJK]
    #5780042 - 06/22/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Odiumjunkie said:
Quote:

SirTripAlot said:
I think its fear. The enemy knows that the United States does not mess around.





:lol:

You can't possibly believe that.




Why is this so hard to believe?

The invasion of Iraq was enough to convince the government of Libya to suddenly up and lay down arms.

After the invasion of Iraq, when the US told Syria it was time to leave Lebanon, they suddenly left (despite not listening to similar calls prior to the invasion of Iraq).

After the invasion of Iraq, North Korea has suddenly taken threats from the US seriously for the first time since the 1990s.

I don't think the invasion of Iraq was a good idea, but to say that other nations around the world aren't at least slightly more afraid of what the US might do in the future is just wrong.

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Re: Why there hasnt been another terrorrist attack in the US. [Re: Economist]
    #5780101 - 06/22/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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The invasion of Iraq was enough to convince the government of Libya to suddenly up and lay down arms.




Are you sure about that? Dipolomacy for the sake of disarmament with Libya goes back well before Bush was president. I think the move was more of an economic one - to bolster Libya's need to join in with the outside world.

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April 5, 1999: Libya hands over two suspects--each reportedly linked to Libyan intelligence--to Dutch authorities for trial in the bombing of Pam Am Flight 103.

Immediately following the handover, as well as France’s acknowledgement that Tripoli had cooperated with French officials investigating the UTA bombing, the Security Council suspends sanctions against Libya originally imposed in 1992.

May 1999: Libyan officials offer to eliminate their chemical weapons programs during secret talks with the United States, according to Martin Indyk, then assistant secretary of state. In a March 10, 2004 Financial Times article, Indyk reveals that U.S. officials insisted Libya reach a settlement with the Pan Am victims’ families, as well as accept responsibility for the bombing, before Washington negotiate with Libya about its chemical weapons.




http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/LibyaChronology.asp

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After the invasion of Iraq, when the US told Syria it was time to leave Lebanon, they suddenly left (despite not listening to similar calls prior to the invasion of Iraq).




I think this had more to do with the assassination of Rafik Hariri and the massive demonstrations in Lebanon.

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