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Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD
#5776200 - 06/21/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stories/062106kvuecandy-eh.a981ac6d.htmlMother
Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD
10:33 AM CDT on Wednesday, June 21, 2006
KVUE News
A 3-year old Cedar Park boy remains in intensive care after police say he reportedly ingested nine pieces of candy laced with LSD.
His mother, Ashli Rene Freas, 22, was arrested for endangering a child. Investigators say she waited for more than an hour before her friends called 911 to get her son some help.
Police say Freas and her boyfriend took the child to a party Sunday night somewhere in the Parmer and Duval area. They say the youngster ate nine Sweet Tarts laced with LSD while his mother and her boyfriend were both outside.
Police and paramedics who responded say the 3-year-old was showing obvious signs of hallucination when they arrived.
"As the mother was carrying the child down the stairs, he was grasping in the air. He was reaching out for things that weren't there, calling out crying, screaming then calming down and then going right back into that and she said this was not normal behavior for him," said Jeff Hayes, Cedar Park police.
Cedar Park police are working with austin police trying to find out where the party was in Austin and who was there. They want to know how a 3-year-old was able to get to LSD.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: motaman]
#5776455 - 06/21/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some people shouldnt be allowed to breed.
I want some of those sweet tarts though...its been a while since I have got my doses that way. Used to be really popular a few years back though.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: motaman]
#5776840 - 06/21/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"As the mother was carrying the child down the stairs, he was grasping in the air. He was reaching out for things that weren't there...
Don't most/all young children do this? And I'm sorry, but it doesn't sound like the child was in any real physical danger. Granted, this could potentially fuck him up for the rest of his life. Irresponsible parents, but I'm still unsure of my beliefs on the dosing of children; 9 hits was waaaaaaaaaay too much though, definitely.
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They want to know how a 3-year-old was able to get to LSD.
He saw candy which he has probably had before, grabbed it, then ate it. What's so difficult to understand?
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: demiu5]
#5778821 - 06/21/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think they want to know if people who leave their LSD laced Sweet Tarts in view, especially REACH of their children should have any. And they shouldn't get to have the kids either.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: Wysefool]
#5778849 - 06/22/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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wysefool, thats not very wise to say, just FOOL. for christ sake its not like she slams meth while breastfeeding, the kid obviously got into a little trouble it happends now and then, just cause a kid gets into some bleach or other chemicals doesnt mean people shouldnt own their kids. drugs shouldnt be classified any different from other chemicals when shit like this happends. sure 9 hits is a huge amount for such a young kid, and it was irresponsible for them to leave a young child unattended, but who said they left it there? they went to a party! anyone could have left them sitting there!
I think you have been here long enough you would have caught that. SoD
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: CptnGarden]
#5778859 - 06/22/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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and in 15 years he will probably sign up here.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: CptnGarden]
#5778865 - 06/22/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Didn't catch the part where it happened at a party, I have a bad habit of skimming these articles. I still think that if it had happened in their own home they shouldn't really be raising a child, not yet anyways. I also don't think parents who let their kids get in to bleach should have them. I'm not saying you need all those cupboard locks and stuff but at least switch from under the sink to above it.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: Wysefool]
#5778885 - 06/22/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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2 questions: How fucking dumb and irrespondible do you have to be as an adult, to take your fucking 3-year old child to a fucking party? Second question, why the fuck did they not get a baby-sitter? 3rd question: Where the fuck am I?- Helmholtz Watson
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: CptnGarden]
#5779911 - 06/22/06 09:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomieOfDoomie said: and in 15 years he will probably sign up here.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#5780130 - 06/22/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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3 + 12 = 15, eh.
but your probably right.
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Boy who ate LSD to stay in foster care [Re: motaman]
#5804452 - 06/29/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stories/062906kvuelsdboy-cb.c6d9e8e.html
Boy who ate LSD to stay in foster care
05:34 PM CDT on Thursday, June 29, 2006
By SHELTON GREEN / KVUE News
A judge ruled Thursday that a 3-year-old Williamson County boy, who accidentally ate candy laced with LSD at someone else's home, will remain in foster care -- at least for now. Aidan Freas has been in foster care since he was released from the hospital last week.
The hearing was supposed to determine whether Freas would stay in foster care, go to his great-grandmother or go to his biological father.
Allen Freas, the boy's father, is in the Army stationed in Iraq. He surprised everyone when he flew in Thursday for the hearing. His ex-wife, Ashli Freas, watched quietly while attorneys questioned and cross-examined the boy's father.
A CPS worker and the boy's great grandmother are also seeking temporary custody.
Attorneys for Ashli Freas say Aidan lived with his maternal great grandmother, Julianne Smith, for the first two years of his life. They say he has a room there and has his puppy named Tinkerbell at her house.
"The most experienced social worker that I've ever seen in a courtroom... hundreds of social studies on homes... believes she's the appropriate placement. Common sense would dictate that the one who had the baby for the first two years of his life would be better suited that a stranger. But the judge is being careful and I understand that," said Bob Phillips, Ashli Freas' attorney.
"We have to abide by what the judge says. I love my grandson, my great grandson very much. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get him," Smith said. "I will follow whatever rules they set. They can come check my house if they let me have him. They can come and visit anytime they want to -- unannounced or otherwise."
The judge ordered Freas and her ex-husband, the boy's biological father, to undergo drug tests before 5 p.m. Friday before he'll allow either of them to have supervised visits with their 3-year-old.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: motaman]
#5804555 - 06/29/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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damn, that shit happened like 10 mins from me, lemme get some!
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Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: motaman]
#5934333 - 08/05/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=5236938&nav=menu73_4
Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights
Aug 3, 2006 10:37 PM
A Cedar Park woman whose toddler son ate LSD-laced candy learned Thursday she will not be allowed to visit him anytime soon.
Ashli Freas stood in front of a Williamson County judge Thursday who decided she will not be allowed visitation rights until she receives clean results from three random drug tests that Family Protective Services will administer.
After that, Freas can have supervised visits.
As of now, she is only allowed weekly supervised phone chats with her son.
"The most important thing now is where we go from here on out and if we can see that she is free from drugs from here on out, then I think it would be appropriate for her to have contact," Family Protective Services spokesman Chris Van Dusen said.
Freas is scheduled to be back in court to face a child endangerment charge in late August.
Right now, the 3-year-old is in the hands of his grandmother.
The boy's father was serving in Iraq and came home when he heard the news. He's fighting for permanent custody.
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Re: Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: motaman]
#5934696 - 08/05/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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You can tell the people that don't have kids. Keeping things away from kids is easier said then done. Child locks work for some kids not for others. My youngest can't open them, my oldest opens them easier then I can. When they get stuck, I have to have him help me, his fingures are small enough to undo them and my big sausages can't press the button in far enough ROFL. We went through four kinds of locks before we founnd one that atleast my youngest can't open.
As for putting things up high, I took a piss and came out of the bathroom to see my oldest sitting on top of the fridge, in the time it took to take a piss he went from playing with lego's on the kitchen floor to throwing cearal boxes down to his brother from off a six foot fridge. I used to think I was smarter then my parents when I was a teenager, now I know my kids are smarter then me and their just toddlers ROFL.
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Re: Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: CoolMojo]
#5935186 - 08/05/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who the fuck would take there kid to THAT kind of party.
The kid ate 9 pieces of candy? Obvious he is not a beginner.
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Re: Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: MustNotBe]
#5936172 - 08/06/06 03:37 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's a classic case of irresponsible fuck heads giving the rest of us a bad name. Only a moron would let 9 hits of cid out of his/her site/pocket, until time to drop. And I don't mean with the neighbors 3yr old. Fuckin Morons!!!!
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: CptnGarden]
#5936505 - 08/06/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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ShroomieOfDoomie said: the kid obviously got into a little trouble it happends now and then, just cause a kid gets into some bleach or other chemicals doesnt mean people shouldnt own their kids.
Yes. It does.
Children are not able to protect themselves from dangers like this, parents MUST be able to do so. If you let your child drink bleach, and they die, you go to jail, that's the way it should be.
You definitely should not get another chance to destroy a life.
If this child hadn't have been so lucky... and had of popped 9 E instead of 9 LSD, you would have a fucking corpse.
Think about what you're saying.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: ExplosiveMango]
#5936663 - 08/06/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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"The judge ordered Freas and her ex-husband, the boy's biological father, to undergo drug tests before 5 p.m. Friday before he'll allow either of them to have supervised visits with their 3-year-old."
Now thats one shitty deal. Guy halfway around the world when his ex takes the kid to the party. But he has to pass a drug test to see his kid. And THEN only supervised. You don't have to commit a crime in this country to be treated like a criminal.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: CoolMojo]
#5936677 - 08/06/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, he's fighting in Iraq, and yet he has to take a piss test?
They should bring him home to raise his son, and send that judge back to Iraq to take his place.
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Re: Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: motaman]
#5937052 - 08/06/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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motaman said: http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=5236938&nav=menu73_4
The boy's father was serving in Iraq and came home when he heard the news. He's fighting for permanent custody.
Id rather have the boy stay with his mother than a military brainwashed depleted uranium exposed soldier. The kid is obvisouly fine now so he got into the Acid, big deal. Some kids get into parked cars release the emergency brake and roll the car down a hill into a tree. Whatever Go fuck yourselfs all you "should be more responsible" whiners. Kids are kids!!! Fuck the government the CPS, the military, the feds IRS and the DEA. You owe no Taxes. http://www.freedomtofascism.com
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Re: Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: downlowfunk]
#5937064 - 08/06/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL I did that when I was a kid.
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Re: Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: downlowfunk]
#5937382 - 08/06/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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downlowfunk said: Fuck the government the CPS, the military, the feds IRS and the DEA. You owe no Taxes. http://www.freedomtofascism.com
Fuck the guy who talks big but thinks small?
What you think most soldiers want to be over there? No, most went into the service because they heard of "Free colloge" and benefits like that.
Let the guy have his son. "We aren't against the soldiers, we are against the war".
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Mother of child who ate LSD-laced candy appears in court [Re: motaman]
#6014020 - 08/30/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.kvue.com/news/local/stories/083006kvuefreas-gv.4e005443.html
Mother of child who ate LSD-laced candy appears in court
11:00 AM CDT on Wednesday, August 30, 2006
KVUE News
The mother of a 3-year-old who ate LSD-laced candy appeared in a Williamson County courtroom Wednesday morning facing criminal charges.
Ashli Freas had a pre-trial hearing but it was reset for September 27.
Her son ate the drug-laced candy in June while Freas was visiting friends.
The boy's great-grandmother has temporary custody.
Freas' lawyer says she's passing mandated drug tests that would allow her to see her son.
She is allowed to talk to her son on the phone an hour a week.
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Re: Mother of child who ate LSD-laced candy appears in court [Re: motaman]
#6014091 - 08/30/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is there no info on how the child is doing? It seems like the main focus of all of these is how the mother is irresponsible. It would be nice to know the condition of the child mentally and physically? Any changes?
It WAS an accident. I'm sure the mother is way more upset about it than you people saying how irresponsible she is. I bet she's having trouble living with that.
That could easily happen to any of you who are "responsible" enough. How would you feel? Would you be happy to never see your child again.
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Re: Mother of child who ate LSD-laced candy appears in court [Re: Phishe]
#6014220 - 08/31/06 12:09 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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this constantly crosses my mind with my own daughter when i read stories like this. if you got kids, lock that stash up.. it's even more important once they get older and know what the stuff is
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Re: Mother of child who ate LSD-laced candy appears in court [Re: Phishe]
#6014735 - 08/31/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry Phishe, but most people (at least judicial people) aren't going to care about the children, or at least in a news-worthy sense. The "irresponsible" mother draws way more attention.
Also, yes, this was an accident. Personally, I feel they are blowing this way out of proportion. I assume the child is alright and will be fine; this should not affect (physically) its health throughout its life. Now this child will grow up without a mother and probably not understand the situation its in.
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Re: Mother of child who ate LSD-laced candy appears in court [Re: demiu5]
#6014953 - 08/31/06 09:58 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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How much time till the trip report?
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Re: Mother of child who ate LSD-laced candy appears in court [Re: funnybunny]
#6016479 - 08/31/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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funnybunny said: How much time till the trip report?
A child that young probably wont even remember the experience by the time it is able to write well.
Also, i heard somewhere that infants experience life the way we do on psychedelics. Is this true?
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Re: Mother of child who ate LSD-laced candy appears in court [Re: Phishe]
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The assemblage point of an infant is very loose, so its not entirely untrue...
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: motaman]
#6018574 - 09/01/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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This seems to be more about a crusade against parents who use drugs than about the kid's safety. If he got a hold of some xanax or something of that nature which accepted and frequently in houses across america, I doubt the response would be this severe. I agree no matter what, I agree that depriving this kid of his mother seems like the worst side effect of all of this. 1 hour a week on the phone..
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
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Thought i would chime in here...my first post ever, after all this time registered. I am a parent, and i am ALWAYS worried that my daughter will get into something. Everything is out of reach, put up high, my stash is locked in a safe, yet i still double check everything. BUT one day i turn the corner to see half a gelcap sticking out of my daughter's mouth. I immediately recognized the pill as my wife's phendimetrazine, called poison control, and rushed to the hospital (which by the way, not an eyebrow was lifted, if it had been something illegal im sure i would be in the same situation as what is going on in this post). The point i am trying to make is that you can be super careful yet shit will still happen on accident. We have no idea where the pill came from because we are always extremely careful, we do not even leave tylenol out on the counter to "take in a minute". We go straight from bottle to mouth. ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. And to all those saying "if the parents let them drink bleach blah blah they should be sent to jail", they are simply ignorant to the problems of parenting. I would like to see those people outsmart a kid everyday, 24/7. No one is perfect. Now that mother should'nt have taken her kid to a party, but i am sure she is suffering a hell of a lot right now. My sympathies.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: Epohxe]
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Actually, just noticed that it says 5 posts by my name...no idea where those came from heh. :|
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: Epohxe]
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Well as far as taking the kid to the party is concerned it depends on what kind of party. I have a large group of friends about my age, with childred of about the same age. We get together frequently for a BBQ, the kids play together and we all watch them. When the children go to sleep we break out the beer. Its a family party, they have fun with their friends and so do we.
My house is child proofed to suit MY children. Most parents can put things up high to keep them out of reach. Not me, my son could climb up the back of our couch 2 days after he started crawling. There is nothing in my house he can't climb, i've tried, he just can't be stopped that way. It took several types of child locks to find one my other son couldn't crack, I'm willing to bet there are thousands of children who could open those locks.
The point is that even though I keep my home as safe as posible for my children, doesn't mean that another child couldn't walk in and all these safty precausions would be no more the speed bumps to them. Its just not possible to have a completly safe envirement for every child. Children are people, with their own skills, talents, tricks and quirks.
So lets take a look at two people here. Ephoxe puts things up high to keep them outa reach of the kids. This would be effective ag ainst my youngest son, my oldest would have access to everything you've child proofed that way in seconds. So if I braught my child to your house....see where i'm going with this.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: CoolMojo]
#6023522 - 09/02/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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well, i cant really come to a definate conclusion about this situation as i wasnt there and im not sure how he got a hold of the acid. although the parents should not of had the lsd out of their "safe place." Maybe if the kid was digging through the drawer... and found some lsd sweet tarts under some clothes or something, that should be treated with less consequence. although some of you see this as something to be leniant on, you should also consider the welfare of the kid and who's at fault. this incident could have been very easily prevented if the parents had kept the lsd safely hidden. i believe that the great grandma should take custody of the kid for a period of time. in the period of time, the child should be observed for anything wrong by good psychiatrists. you've gotta remember, ages 1-4 are the most important developing ages for the childs behavior and mind.
whether he can remember it or not, it could still effect him. acid is a very strong drug. 9 hits is a a very very strong dose for a full sized adult male. now, think about a 3 year old. his welfare should not be taken lightly in this period of time. i would keep my eye on that kid growing up, because i highly doubt this kid will turn out normal. maybe he'll become a prophet or some kind of a prodigy of man kind able to do anything. maybe even a psychic. that shit'd be awesome.
anyhow, im not sure about the parents. i think that after giving your child acid and knowing how stupid. the child should definatley be checked out and maybe some kind of a large fine. which would go to kids with out homes and ciggarette companies.
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peepeepottypants
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#6024307 - 09/03/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its very possible the parents knew nothing of the LSD. They were at someone elses house.
Now if the parents were aware that it was one of those kinds of parties I might raise the fact that they should have most certainly not left their child inside by himself. And while a lapse of judgement is no excuse for this to happen, I don't condone taking a child away from his mother only to speak to her for one hour on the phone a week.
I do feel the biggest crime is the manner in which the judicial system has painted this woman out to be a monster. As has been noted, kids are not like pets, you can't put a gate up and say no. Kids are ridiculously smart and sneaky.
Oly way to be fool proof is if you put them in childlock bubbles...which im pretty sure don't exist
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: Microcosmatrix]
#6025576 - 09/03/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Microcosmatrix said: Yeah, he's fighting in Iraq, and yet he has to take a piss test?
They should bring him home to raise his son, and send that judge back to Iraq to take his place.
amen, brotha
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: stonerguy420]
#6025968 - 09/03/06 07:44 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll tell you why she took her three year old son to a party with LSD, because she is an young irresponsible parent. Being an adult common sense should tell you that if there's gonna be drugs at a party you just don't bring your little kid. "Oh it looked like candy, it could happen to anybody..." well you just don't let your kid go wondering around a party while your outside and if you don't know they have LSD at the party you obviously don't know whose at the party which means YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS BRINGING YOUR LITTLE THREE YEAR OLD UNSUPERVISED AT A PARTY!!!, for all she knew there could have been pedophiles at that party or something God forbid that little boy got abducted. I have only the slightest sympathy for the parents, that was very poor judgment.
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Le_Canard
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: cerpinjc7]
#6026037 - 09/03/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Indeed.
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mr_minds_eye
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: Le_Canard]
#6027633 - 09/04/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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You don't know for a fact that this sort of thing was rampant at this particular gathering. Lets say she can't afford a baby sitter and had taken her son to this type of social outing before with no ill consequences. I have a friend who just had a baby, him and his girlfriend take the kid everywhere. I mean there is more control and constant supervision because the child is an infant. I just feel like we know little enough of the circumstances that such judgements are little harsh and self-rightous. What if every other moment the kid was being closly superivised and the mother wanted to go smoke a cig or burn one and didn't want her son picking up the secondhand. Some burnout absentmindedly left his shit out and then in a flash everyone concerned has had their lives changed forever. Just because it was there doesn't meant that they were at an acid party or that it was a mother taking her kid to a scene out of Fear and Loathing. Bottom line bad things happen. You don't know the full spectrum of the events that transpired and for that part neither do I. You could be right. It could be some ditsy druged up idiot who was being entirely irresponsible and paid a very dear price for it.
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#6027680 - 09/04/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree that it could very well be a situation in which the mother had no clue that anyone at the party would have acid. I've been to private parties where a few people had stuff on them that they didn't readily advertise to the rest of the crowd. For the most part people were there to eat BBQ are drink a few beers while talking to each other out in the back yard. Never-the-less, drugs were present and some of it could very easilly have been lost on the ground, or fell out in a chair, where it would be easy for a child to get their hands on it.
I try to be careful and mindful of what is in my possession at all times but I still have lost drugs occasionally. It happens. When it does, I try my best to find what is lost but I haven't always been successful.
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Re: Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: Ekstaza]
#6035068 - 09/06/06 01:24 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am just now hearing about this case because I was living in a cave over the summer which is a great way to save money & become one with the environment. Plus nobody fucks with you. Now I for one am disgusted by always hearing the negative side to psychedelic experiences. Why does our government/media only show us one side of the coin? After all the good things that have come from proper use of these sacred plants, fungi and chemicals why does this have to be a headline? Did everyone forget that Francis Crick discovered the double helix while experimenting with low doses of LSD? And we all know that is just the tip of the iceberg.
On the matter of the father taking a piss test I think in this case we must understand the courts decision. There are just too many variables to overlook. What if they find crack, LSD, peyote, met, coke, alcohol etc. etc. in the fathers blood. Then the negligence of the court could land the baby tripper in the lap of a bigger druggie. Now I am not one to defend our drug laws at all but this is a sensitive case and should be handled accordingly.
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Re: Mother Of LSD-Eating Toddler Denied Visitation Rights [Re: grasshoppa]
#6039210 - 09/07/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mom should have taught her kid not to take candy from strangers! -MOR
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Re: Mother arrested after child reportedly ingests LSD [Re: CptnGarden]
#6039975 - 09/07/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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ShroomieOfDoomie said: wysefool, thats not very wise to say, just FOOL. for christ sake its not like she slams meth while breastfeeding, the kid obviously got into a little trouble it happends now and then, just cause a kid gets into some bleach or other chemicals doesnt mean people shouldnt own their kids. drugs shouldnt be classified any different from other chemicals when shit like this happends. sure 9 hits is a huge amount for such a young kid, and it was irresponsible for them to leave a young child unattended, but who said they left it there? they went to a party! anyone could have left them sitting there!
I think you have been here long enough you would have caught that. SoD
3 years old... the kid was three... you shouldnt leave SERIOUS FUCKING DRUGS LIKE LSD that can fuck you up mentally for life lying around when you have a 3 year old. There are some people who are never meant to handle acid... and 3 year olds definately ARE THOSE PEOPLE.
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