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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: Papaver]
    #5776437 - 06/21/06 12:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i think they are just swell :grin:
overrated?
well whos rating them to begin with?
the dead are in my opinion a high water mark in the entire history of creation on the planet earth. nothing makes me feel better or makes me think more. and i dont get all bent out of whack if someone thinks otherwise.
everyone has there own thing
  the dead, tool, slayer, snoop dogg
i dont really give a shit where people get it from
as long as they get it....get it? :wink: :gd_icon:


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: notapillow]
    #5776453 - 06/21/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yes I for one find myself not enjoying The Greatful Dead. In fact, their music causes me to be iritated even if I'm high/wasted/tripping.


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #5776470 - 06/21/06 01:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

nature vs nutre might come into play oon this one me thinks
as for me i was raised with the dead. i can remember hearing certin dead songs befor i could even talk, let alone understand the lyrics. for the first 8 or so years of my life dead way all i was exposed to. no 3 min late 80's radio songs, no shity pop, no nothing exept for the good old live grateful dead :laugh: i think that reay influensed my ideas on music, playing it and listening to it.
if you have 2 min to listen to a song then you have 50 min to listen to a song


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: MrSinister]
    #5776965 - 06/21/06 03:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

they're not the best at what they do, they're the only ones that do what they do.

jerry wrote the majority of the music to the songs, while robert hunter wrote the majority of the words. they worked as a team.

and if you don't like em, quit whining about it, just don't listen to em.


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: MrSinister]
    #5777007 - 06/21/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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This illusion has to stop people.. The band wasn't that great




Masquerading his opinion as everyone else's reality...

Is a troll. :thumbdown:

Pappy's right, Shroomism's right.


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: MrSinister]
    #5777117 - 06/21/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

WTF.Have you ever listened to the dead?

Any decent "musician" would atleast acknowledge their talent and respect it.Like say oh i dunno like Miles Davis did.


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: Papaver]
    #5777317 - 06/21/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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the member/sock's history, and know what he's up to; even if he does think he's being clever in skirting the issue by crafting his post in a certain fashion. The intent is obvious...





OK after asking around, i know you haven't been here for about a year, so i am going to clear something up right now.. Many people, including Ythan have seen countless pictures of me.. But hey thats a good try to realy support to your ideas :thumbup:.. And now that you have officially derailed my thread, i guess i can address you..

But in all given respect,and peace  I am going answer the things you said about me by  quoting Bono from a concert i saw in London England in 1995, in front of a crowed of 200,000.. This was said right before he sang Sunday Bloody Sunday..

" This is not a rebel song, but a song of freedom. This but a small cry, a song to call for peace against an oppression that follows us like a sickness in the night.
This is but a song to carry those scared and beaten to find the light of hope. Stand up my brothers and sisters, for those who stand silent will be those who die.. There can be unity among the masses if we sing loud, and sing strong.
Terror, and fear are among us, beating us into submisson,  but it has only one voice.. We shall come together standing, and our song will show the governments that oppression will never be seen as nothing more then a few mens evil actions..
Freedom today is not a dream, but can be a reality to those who are willing to SING OUT LOUD! For this is our time, and we shall raise Strong, and in peace, and love".. Sunday Bloody Sunday


OK now can we please get back to the topic this was meant to be.. No more derailing please.. If you want to talk about me use the correct forum called OTD. Thanks.. :cool:


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: MrSinister]
    #5777351 - 06/21/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ha bono


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #5777416 - 06/21/06 06:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
more importantly, nobody gives a flying fuck that you dont dig the dead. why is it that every so often some guy feels the need to make a thread exactly like this. NO ONE FUCKING CARES!!




for the same reason there are a TON of pro-dead posts post your fav dead show .. i miss the grateful dead... whats your fav dead song ( these are all found with a simple search on "dead", and didn't go past page 2)


as you put it so eloquently No ONE FUCKING CARES .....................that you like/miss the dead, or what your fav dead song is.

you feel you have the right ( which you do ) to post pro-dead, but beware those who dont care for the band, sit in the corner and keep your mouth shut..you dont have the right to express your likes and dislikes, only those who do like em gets that privilege

and ya know Ive tried SOOOOO hard to like the band especially when me and ripple was buddies ( well i hope we still are, just dont stay in touch anymore ) I MISS YOU RIP!!!!, and i respect the bands following, but there music is just so bland, guess i need a lil more balls to my music


I am not one to go around bashing music, as i like just about everything except rap... lol and i take my share of criticism about my musical choice(s)

lol /me hangs his head and admits he is a KISS fan from wayyyy back and defend them just as much as the deadheads do the dead.. but i dont post tons of topics on i miss ace, or whats your fav kiss song.

it gets old when your not a deadhead to CONTINUALLY have them force fed to you..


BTW could i have a KISS post stickied too?


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: ChromeCrow]
    #5777446 - 06/21/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Bravo..


Ok here it is.. Those of you who so magnanimously wrote that i am trying to troll people, you are so far off the mark..

No i personally don't like the band's music what so ever, and the beliefs i stated, are those i have always had, and may always have.. If you read what i wrote, i even said i respected them for the peace they brought, and the people who followed them.. I just don't like the music, nor did i find Jerry Garcie to be a great guitar player.. You want to debate that, fine, make a thread about guitar players, and I'll name off Carlos Santana. and Steve Vai, and explain why i feel this way..

I wanted to find out who else didn't like their music.. No evil understatements, no other ideas behind it other then what i stated..

And i am very happy people are defending the Grateful Dead. I would do the same for a band i followed with the passion allot of you seem to have for them.. I haven't said" Oh you people are dumb hippies, and the dead sucks.. :nono: Nor would i ever when it comes to music, and what people like..  No i said i didn't like their music, and who else is like me on this..

Speak up people, and let your voice be heard.. If you feel i am wrong, then by all means i'll listen, and respect the hell out of what you are saying..  But i feel like i feel, and you feel what you feel..  :cool:

Now i hope this clears it all up, and those who want to put their spin on it, can read that this is a debate of personal tastes, and opinions... If you love the dead, and thier music then by all means support your band... But give me the same respect to tell you why i don't..    :smile:


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: MrSinister]
    #5777579 - 06/21/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Excellent apology!

Though I didn't have the time nor interest in reading it, I can see that you spent quite some time on it. :congrats:


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5777619 - 06/21/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Microcosmatrix said:
Excellent apology!

Though I didn't have the time nor interest in reading it, I can see that you spent quite some time on it. :congrats:




Thanks, but it's no apology, nor would i ever apologies for disliking the music of  what i find to be a limitedly talent band like the Grateful dead.. But thanks for  your nice complement.. :thumbup:..


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: MrSinister]
    #5777644 - 06/21/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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MrSinister said:
OK after asking around, i know you haven't been here for about a year, so i am going to clear something up right now.. Many people, including Ythan have seen countless pictures of me..




There were technical indications that you might have been a puppet, so I had to hold that possible position until I knew otherwise. However, after inquires, I have been informed that you are not, so cool beans. :smile:

Thread back on track...


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: MrSinister]
    #5777647 - 06/21/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Like I said...

The thing is that you simply cannot decide for anyone else but you what is enjoyable. Threads like this are pointless and annoying, especially when those that really understand the Grateful Dead are laughing at you...


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5777689 - 06/21/06 07:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Microcosmatrix said:
Like I said...

The thing is that you simply cannot decide for anyone else but you what is enjoyable. Threads like this are pointless and annoying, especially when those that really understand the Grateful Dead are laughing at you...




Yet it is OK for those who want to make I love the dead.. Name your favorite shows, to speak freely about this topic all day.. Dude face it, allot of people feel like i do as well.. Micros you need to stop being so closed minded :cool:..  Now please stop trying to gain favoritism among others, and tell me about what you Really believe..


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Grateful Dead Suck!!! [Re: MrSinister]
    #5777722 - 06/21/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I would rather burn my self with cigarettes, then listen to the Dead.





I hate the dead and always have, never got into them thankfully


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Ok Honesty.. Who here really loves the Grateful Dead? [Re: Papaver]
    #5777744 - 06/21/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Papaver said:
It also really helps if you've been to a few shows. They were rare and special things. Great people and good times! :smile:




Hehe, I was avoiding this thread 'cause it just looked like a negative bashing.  But on the flipside, it got me thinkin' about the Dead again, and now here I am after a twenty minute jam session to some cuts off Shakedown Street - feelin' better than I've felt all day :sun:

Though I wasn't fortunate enough to catch Garcia in the flesh - I have been to a handful of Dead shows since, as well as shows featuring other members of the band with their own ensemble.  For those who may want a peak into what one of my most memorable experiences was like --> :gd_icon: [click here] :gd_icon:

Also as many others have indicated - the music of the Dead is often an acquired taste.  I grew up with sisters that were a decade and then some older than me, who had the chance to go to a couple of the shows, and were sportin' all sorts of music that the members of my generation typically shy away from or are simply ignorant of.  At that time, I heard the Dead.. and I wasn't impressed.  Even later years when I heard it on my own time I still found it to be a little jumbled and "hokey" for lack of a better term.  I can't even tell you when my perception changed, but it surely did a 180 and now the musical stylings of the Grateful Dead are some of my favorite, for any mood, time, or place.  Something about it tells a story to me, and maybe a different one each time, but it strikes a deep chord within and never fails to bring a smile to my face.

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Redstorm said:

I love the fact that when someone makes a thread bashing some shitty emo or pop band, people jump right in.

When someone criticizes the Grateful Dead, it's suddenly not right?

It doesn't add up to me.


What doesn't add up?  It should be obvious there are a considerable lot of Dead lovers 'round these parts.  Can't say the same for the emo crowd.  Demographics my man!  Where those census keepers when you need 'em? :grin:

My conclusion: Too many people here like to argue.  Let's debate instead :wink:


PS.  I'll give it to ya that Garcia didn't have a great voice - but did Dylan?  It's the whole that is important in this case, not the quirky intricities of the individual.  I for one find it refreshing that someone who doesn't fit the traditional mold could have attained such a following :thumbup:

PPS.  Santana rocks

PPPS.  Steve Vai is OK, but I find his music too technical and "dry" - though a greatly subjective description this I understand, it just doesn't carry with it the underlying emotional feelings that manifest from other music I enjoy.  I will concede however, that Vai's "Sisters" is a fucking awesome track!


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really hated the Grateful Dead? [Re: MrSinister]
    #5777747 - 06/21/06 07:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think they were nice.


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really loves the Grateful Dead? [Re: geokills]
    #5777782 - 06/21/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Geo, looks like an awesome show. The Greek Theater in Berkeley is a great venue! :smile:


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Re: Ok Honesty.. Who here really loves the Grateful Dead? [Re: geokills]
    #5777791 - 06/21/06 07:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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geokills said:
My conclusion: Too many people here like to argue.  Let's debate instead :wink:





:cheers: :sun:

And as far as the emo kiddies go, that's a whole other topic I for one definitely don't want to get started on at the moment. :smirk: :grin:


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