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Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions!
    #5772016 - 06/20/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I've been thinking of starting this venture for some time now but never bothered to start work on it. Anyhow now I really wanna get this idea of the ground..

My idea is this: To create capsules which contain ingredients to prevent MDMA induced neurotoxicity, there will be 3 pills one for before, one for during and one for after. Ingredients will differ for each section. Here's what I intend to place in them:

5-HTP
St. Johns wort extract
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
Vitamin B (don't know which ones yet but will definately contain niacin)
Magnesium
Potassium
Sodium
Paracetam (only if not too expensive)
Alpha Lipoic Acid

I haven't decided what will go in what capsule or the dosages of each ingredient yet. Basically Iam looking for both opinions on this project and how I would begin to start looking for the ingredients in bulk. I could order in bulk from wholesale websites but I'd rather get these ingredients shipped to a factory who could then weigh and turn them into capsules. Do you think this would be possible?

All comments/constructive critisisms will be appreciated :smile:


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cubeladd]
    #5772056 - 06/20/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Make sure they play techno music.


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cubeladd]
    #5772064 - 06/20/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

under the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act you could be prosecuted for selling these legal substances


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5772071 - 06/20/06 10:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

what?


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5772074 - 06/20/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Only if he markets them for that purpose.

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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cubeladd]
    #5772103 - 06/20/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Do those drugs actually work for that purpose?


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5772105 - 06/20/06 11:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
under the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act you could be prosecuted for selling these legal substances




Is this a US law? Iam from the UK and only intend to sell them there for the time being, though if sucsessful I will no doubt sell them overseas online.

I don't think I could be prosecuted in this country if I decided on a direct product name using something like XTC, E or Ecstacy in the title however I could easily call it something else as many other companys do with legal high products.


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cubeladd]
    #5772114 - 06/20/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Safety Dance Pills!


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cubeladd]
    #5772124 - 06/20/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

cubeladd said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
under the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act you could be prosecuted for selling these legal substances




Is this a US law? Iam from the UK




in that case, no worries until the US decides that the UK is a bunch of terrorists
because they support drug use and we decide to invade and install a democratic
government in your part of the world, dont worry, we're just there to help you


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5772126 - 06/20/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Safety Dance Pills!







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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: supercollider]
    #5772128 - 06/20/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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supercollider said:
Do those drugs actually work for that purpose?




Vit A,B,C - Anti oxidants, Oxidisation is the complete cause of MDMA neurotoxicity. B vitamins will also help convert the 5-HTP in serotonin.

St Johns wort/5-HTP - Anti depressive effects, 5-HTP converts in serotonin and st. johns wort is a mild MAOI.

Milk Thistle - Cleanses the liver

Magnesium - muscle relaxant, may help prevent tight jaw/gurning, though having used personally it didn't do anything :frown: Supposed to though which is why I have included it.

Alpha Lipoic Acid - Powerful antioxidant.

Sodium - To replace salt levels depleted by sweat.

Pottasium - Largely depleted by MDMA use

Piracetam - 'Smart drug' used to enhace brain activity


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5772134 - 06/20/06 11:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The new democratic government in Baghdad will remain only as long as we do. :rolleyes:


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5772143 - 06/20/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

cubeladd said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
under the Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act you could be prosecuted for selling these legal substances




Is this a US law? Iam from the UK




in that case, no worries until the US decides that the UK is a bunch of terrorists
because they support drug use and we decide to invade and install a democratic
government in your part of the world, dont worry, we're just there to help you


:smirk:




No chance of that happening anytime soon, Georgey boy loves having his asshole licked clean to much by uncle Tony to start an argument over drugs, besides I think I heard somewhere that he finds it even more pleasurable than that cocaine stuff he used to like :wink:


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cubeladd]
    #5772153 - 06/20/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hahaha... we all love tony blair, how'd he manage to keep the PM office anyway
do you guys have diebold voting machines?


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5772342 - 06/20/06 12:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:rolleyes:

Diebold....


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: goobler]
    #5772422 - 06/20/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

tony blair



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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cubeladd]
    #5772479 - 06/20/06 01:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i've read somewhere in shulgin's work that prozac helps with the comedown

i'm not too fond of taking medications if im not prescribed them, but look into the prozac thing to see if some natural ingredient will have a similar effect

and yeah youd have to sell it as like "post-party" pills not like

TAKE AFTER ECSTASY


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: sugarcubed]
    #5772499 - 06/20/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

sugarcubed said:
i've read somewhere in shulgin's work that prozac helps with the comedown

i'm not too fond of taking medications if im not prescribed them, but look into the prozac thing to see if some natural ingredient will have a similar effect

and yeah youd have to sell it as like "post-party" pills not like

TAKE AFTER ECSTASY




SSRI antidepressants like prozac are probably the best substance for neuroprotection there is, but I couldn't put a precription only/RX medication into a mainstream product as it would be illegal and would get me prosecuted :frown:


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cubeladd]
    #5772538 - 06/20/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I live in Holland and we already have "after-E" pills in our smartshops. It's a tablet and a pill.
The tablet contains: Vitamin C 1000mg, Rose hip extract 50mg, Bioflavanoid complex 10mg, starch, vegetable oil, magnesium stearate, hydro-cellulose, silica
The capsule contains: L-tryptophan 400mg, Bitamin B6 10mg, cellulose, gelatin.


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5772545 - 06/20/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yah, i think you're gonna have a hard time fitting all the pre and post load powders into one single capsule.


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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5772574 - 06/20/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

TheMadConductor said:
Safety Dance Pills!










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Re: Starting my own ecstacy protection product company - Need opinions! [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5772651 - 06/20/06 02:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I think the only drugs prooven to work are 5 htp and SSRIs. However, I don't see it a problem to use other cognitive enhancers in daily life to improve aging and memory. They probably havn't done testing with MDMA and the other cognitive enhancers.


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