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member Registered: 06/17/03 Posts: 905 Last seen: 16 years, 6 months |
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Saturday Sun
01. Bonnaroo 2006 Superjam - Drifting (10:35) 02. Marah - East (4:12) 03. Ryan Adams - Touch, Feel & Lose (Live from Jamaica) (4:05) 04. Vashti Bunyan - Song Of A Wishwanderer (1:56) 05. Elvis Presley - Wear My Ring Around Your Neck (2:16) 06. The Mountain Goats - Woke Up New (2:57) 07. Pete Townshend - Heart To Hang Onto (4:27) 08. The Doors - Five To One (4:26) 09. Diane Cluck - Real Good Time (2:31) 10. The Doors - Riders on the Storm (7:15) 11. Billy Preston - Right Now (3:14) 12. Elvis Presley - It's Now Or Never (3:15) 13. The Highwaymen - Against The Wind (3:50) 14. The Doors - Light My Fire (7:07) 15. Devendra Banhart - Happy Birthday! (0:55) 16. The Brian Jonestown Massacre - Hide and Seek (Live) (7:14) 17. Prince - Let's Go Crazy (4:39) 18. Billy Preston - Let The Music Play (2:44) 19. Pixies - Debaser (Norfolk 2004) (2:54) 20. Billy Preston - I've Got A Feeling (2:51) 21. Elvis Presley - Viva Las Vegas (2:23) 22. Elvis Presley - Burning Love (2:53) 23. The Doors - The End (11:44)
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PsiLLy BiLLy ![]() Registered: 08/11/02 Posts: 13,676 Loc: day dreams of a mad man Last seen: 20 hours, 8 minutes |
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Quote: is that a fact, jack? i think you are whack. and had i payed, id want my money back. defenders dont attack, and you should probably lay off the crack, before someone hands you a stack of smacks. yay, i can write shitty poems too. /end sarcasmbut seriously, most of your poems i read in that link were kind of bland. im no poet, so maybe what i have to say doesnt count. maybe i just dont get it. but i do know when i read a poem i like, and your poetry is lacking some key ingredients needed to allow me to do so. the problem is, im not exactly sure what it is... it might be that they are not long enough. alot of your works seem like you started to write a poem, then for one reason or another gave up on it and moved on to another. only to start and never finish. like this one for instance. PG You sang and sang the song Painted blue and green You sang for you and me So we could remember to me this seems like the start of something that might be worth reading, but in its current form im just confused after reading it. what exactly are you trying to tell me? how are you trying to make me feel? what was it you were trying to remember? did you forget, and maybe thats why the poem never got finished? in any case, i guess what im trying to say here with this example is that it might be beneficial to your poetry if you worked on your abilities to construct a coherent "plot". (plot isnt quite the right word, but im at a loss so it will have to do) for your writings. i think the good poems are good because they tell a story, they convey a message to the reader. i like having something to think about after reading a poem. the only thing this poem left me thinking about is the possible motives the author could have had to leave so much out of it, which could possibly be giving you more credit than you deserve. also, the poems that really strike a chord with me are ones that make me feel. a good poet has this amazing ability to make the reader feel a certain way after the poem is read. like i said, i am not a poet, so maybe i dont know what im talking about. i just know what i like. if you were given the task to assign a feeling to this particular poem, which would it be? my best guess would be confusion...and if thats the case than please accept my apology, because you did a great job at making me scratch my head. i could go on with more feedback, but whats above is more than enough, especially since it will probably be misread and just add fuel to your defensive tendencies. in fact, im thinking i may have just wasted my time. (prove me wrong) as far as im concerned you are lucky i gave you that much... an honest attempt at some constructive criticism, with my sarcasm towards your shitty attitude set aside. and on that note... even if your poems were as stellar as you believe yourself to be, what kind of feedback could you possibly expect with shitty remarks like the one quoted above? im surprised im taking any time at all to reply to you. you are hardly worth a flame. if someone doesnt like your poems... deal with it. with everything i just said, i would also like to add that none of it really means shit, in that i find poetry to be a very subjective topic. even though you may think you just wrote the mother of all poems, you may be the only one. and there is nothing wrong with that. and a poem i find to be a work of art you may pass off as a childs scribblings. (not to say that a childs scribblings isnt art ) and thats fine also. same goes for the music we like, movies we like, books we like, etc etc....we all have different tastes in what we find entertaining/artistic/what have you.so be proud and share your masterpiece, but dont expect everyone to just tell you how great you are with endless thanks because you took the time to throw a few words together. and when they dont, dont respond with Quote: comments like this will throw your poems in the trash and make you look like a tool. even if they were good, people arent going to praise a dickhead. who the fuck are you to tell me what god is going to say? jesus.... anyway, im going to end this post on a positive note. this poems not bad. The Wonderness She was born before the dawn And now we’re one We made it now we have to make it We love each other so much In all of the seasons For all the right reasons We lost the greatest idea of love We want more life when life’s too much We want no life when we get it all We were born of the moon Where we sing together Born before nothing else I know Born before the winds
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You can say that stuff all you want. I understand the kind intent of your words. But there is another part of it that is you acting like you know more than me, and you don't. I'm one of the best artists on Earth, you should be thanking me. You should be thanking me for being so smart. You can deny it all you want. You can say I'm not a real thing because PG doesn't tell a story, but you're kidding yourself.
I'm not a dickhead like you said. I've just had to spend the last five years dealing with people who don't believe in me, people who will never do anything as remarkable as I have.
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Go read that blog and tell me you'll ever do anything like that. I'm not any better than you, but you're a fucking liar if you don't tell me I'm a superstar.
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In SomnisVeritas ![]() Registered: 06/20/06 Posts: 231 Last seen: 16 years, 2 months |
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Quote: Ok.. as much as I'd like to keep my nose out of this--I can't. 1st of all--Poetry is not exactly something you'll ever find fame and fortune in--most arts don't make cash til you die. (I'll refrain from any obvious sarcastic humor here, because I think this post is seriously something you need to consider...) 2nd--Poetry doesn't sell... when is the last time you went to a bookstore and picked up a poetry book comprised of NEW authors? What book(s) was it and who was it by? 3rd--If poetry did sell and you somehow managed to get published, you'd have pages upon pages of wasted trees because all of your poems are 10 lines or less. 4th--You claim that you are the greatest artist on earth, but you've yet to back that up. I'll explain why... You think your poems are amazing because they are personal, they are your creations, you see the metaphores and you see what you consider profound lines because they actually mean something to you. The challenge of a good poet (or any artist) is not to recognize the profound nature of your own poems, but to make others see it, your work should be a vessel to carry your thoughts, experiences, emotions, and opinions to the world. All you've done is merely jotted lines down that you find meaning in. (Which isn't a bad thing if that is why you're writing them...) But, the rest of us end up with "confusion" or no meaning to the words at all and it's easily disregarded. So me? I personally would not buy, or even spend more than 5 minutes reading (which by length I could probably manage to get in 10 or so poems) at the library because you have not capured my attention--I have no reason to enjoy your poems because I do not have your experiences, memories, or feelings associated with them, I have no story line, or no sign of intent through your thoughts to form my own thought process. Does that mean I think you should give up? Of course not. Do I think that you need to take a step down off of the ego-coaster you've thrown yourself onto and take our efforts to help you further your abilities? Absolutely. An artist will never reach "the best" or "superstar" status by being closed minded, nor by refusing to evolve. As a writer myself I've gone through a thousand styles of writing--but all of those styles are specifically meant to make sure my message doesn't get passed by, to make the reader think about life, to invoke emotion... I see the effort there, but, like I said before, I think the one thing you're missing is just remembering that unless you put an idea into the context of the poem, it won't be received. Quote: And it's no wonder nobody believes in you. You haven't given them a reason to believe in you and yet you carry on about how you are so amazing. Again, until we know where your thoughts come from, or the idea behind the poems, we will disregard your ego and your work. If you know you have this potential, then put it to use. CHALLENGE YOURSELF! It's ok to get constructive feedback... and its GREAT to take the advice of those around you--it's not selling out--it's improving, finding inspiration in other ideals, evolving as an artist. Don't take this as shooting you down--take this as an opportunity to try something new, and to focus on letting people know your intent and provoke their thoughts and emotions. I for one would not mind seeing you post more of them as you evolve, and I'm sure as long as you keep your bitchy attitude out of the picture when people are giving you their opinions and thoughts on your writing, I'm sure you'd get a lot to build on. Just my 2 cents... you can keep the change
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And Saturday Laughter
01. Allen Ginsberg, Peter Orlovsky - Mantras (10:23) 02. Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand (10:23) 03. Led Zeppelin - The Crunge (3:15) 04. Andy Warhol - Silence (0:11) 05. Tim Ries - Ruby Teusday (3:50) 06. The Velvet Underground - Noise (1:06) 07. Radiohead - Lucky (Bonnaroo 2006) (3:57) 08. Baaba Maal - Hamady Boiro (Yelle) (4:32) 09. John Fogerty - Lookin' Out My Backdoor (The Long Road Home Concert) (2:48) 10. Roger McGuinn - Stone (3:04) 11. Pete Townshend - Magic Bus (13:32) 12. My Morning Jacket - Golden (Bonnaroo 2006) (5:14) 13. The Flaming Lips - Waitin' For Superman (4:17) 14. Eric Clapton & The Yardbirds - Heart Full Of Soul (2:28) 15. Roger McGuinn - Peace On You (4:02) 16. Randy Newman - Gone Dead Train (2:56) 17. John Fogerty - Run Through the Jungle (The Long Road Home Concert) (3:58) 18. T-Bone Burnett - Humans from Earth (2:47) 19. Toots & The Maytals - True Love Is Hard To Find (4:27) 20. Frank Black - Fitzgerald (3:12) 21. Roger McGuinn - Draggin' (3:40) 22. Tim Ries - Waiting On A Friend (7:11) 23. Frank Black - Dirty Old Town (3:03) 24. Del Amitri - Roll to Me (2:12) 25. Bob Dylan - You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome (2:55) 26. Counting Crows - Catapult (Live New Amsterdam) (3:39) 27. Bob Dylan - Buckets Of Rain (3:22) 28. Marah - Float Away (3:54) 29. Led Zeppelin - Black Country Woman (4:24) 30. Collective Soul - Precious Declaration (with orchestra) (4:14) 31. Tyrannosaurus Rex - Debora (3:08) 32. The Flaming Lips - It's Summertime (4:20) 33. Bob Dylan - Idiot Wind (7:49)
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It's amazing that you pretend to know so much about me. You don't know shit. I've been writing for five years. I'm the real thing. It's not a joke. You can doubt it all you want, but the truth is always going to be that I tried so hard. The truth is that I deserve your utmost respect no matter what because I cared about you so much. It's amazing that in this world you say someone like me isn't any good, amazing.
Here you are shitting on someone who gave up everything to write. Here you are shitting on someone who wrote for free. You're insulting the next great artist. It might not ever happen, humanity may remain the way it is, but God's truth will always be that I tried and tried. I tried as hard as I prayed. Here you are shitting on someone who has written some genuinely magical poetry. You shitting on someone like me is fucking bullshit. As much as you want to disguise it as wisdom, it doesn't make a bit of sense.
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You should tell me I'm a superstar because that's the truth.
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In SomnisVeritas ![]() Registered: 06/20/06 Posts: 231 Last seen: 16 years, 2 months |
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Quote: A) I didn't talk shit about you... B) I never claimed to know anything about you at all... and C) I didn't shit on you... And if by chance your head is too far up your ass to understand that... Then I have some divine knowledge for you--you're a moron. -------------------- :~:~:~:~{ * }~:~:~:~:{ * }:~:~:~:~{ * }~:~:~:~: All posts are made with only the intent to entertain myself and should ONLY be read with the understanding that they are FICTICIOUS. I do not warrant information I provide for use in illegal activity of any kind nor do I condone it for any reason. Furthermore, I am not, I have never, nor will I in the future, take ANY part in illegal activites.
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YoUisMEEMsiUoY Registered: 05/13/04 Posts: 2,727 Loc: Memphrica |
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I'll tell you: you are a troll.
-------------------- No ONE wants to know the ultimate TRUTH, as soon as YOU find IT out, YOU want to forget IT. You are everything's way of feeling itself. Happy Schwag, everygodly!
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In SomnisVeritas ![]() Registered: 06/20/06 Posts: 231 Last seen: 16 years, 2 months |
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Quote: You're a disgrace to the word, and still a moron. -------------------- :~:~:~:~{ * }~:~:~:~:{ * }:~:~:~:~{ * }~:~:~:~: All posts are made with only the intent to entertain myself and should ONLY be read with the understanding that they are FICTICIOUS. I do not warrant information I provide for use in illegal activity of any kind nor do I condone it for any reason. Furthermore, I am not, I have never, nor will I in the future, take ANY part in illegal activites.
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Quote: You're lying to yourself. Go look at what you said to me. You are giving me advice like I need it. You are telling me what is wrong instead of what is right. I'm not a moron at all. You can say I'm living in a fantasy world all you want, but that's you for not thanking me, for calling me a moron when I'm one of the smartest people who has ever lived.
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PsiLLy BiLLy ![]() Registered: 08/11/02 Posts: 13,676 Loc: day dreams of a mad man Last seen: 20 hours, 8 minutes |
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couldnt have said it better myself. i know this because i tried, and your way is better.
i think i was/am too caught up in the dudes totally fucked attitude to think clearly. but anyway, your writing skills show through in your post. just out of curiosity, what type of stuff do you write? i would love to read some if you wouldnt mind throwing a little my direction.and sox24, i must be psychic because your reply to me is exactly what i thought you would say. perhaps its partly my fault for spending so much time with the sarcasm and petty insults... and not enough time looking past your attitude to your poems for suggestions on how to make them a little bit easier to read. and for the record, i apologize for that. if you would like to read a version of what i was trying to say minus the ploys to get a rise, read the post acinaxuz made. that pretty much fits it to a tee. im sure you have put alot of effort into your writing, and i can praise you for that. i have a little tickle in the back of my mind that reminds me once in a while i like to write. but i dont do it nearly as often as i should or would like to. if i was met with the same hostility towards it as you do your poetry, i doubt my mind would let me justify pursuing it further. perhaps persistence in the face of adversity is a lesson we could learn from you. if your experiences with everyone else you throw your poems at is similar to what youre getting here at the shroomery, i commend you for not giving up, never to pick up a pencil again. time and time again you are told things other than what you would like to hear, and yet you keep doing what you are doing. alot of people would call it quits after 5 years of rejection. you should definitely keep writing. it is obviously something you feel compelled to do and find enjoyment in. everyone could use a hobby with those characteristics. however, i think your methods of getting through the shit storm could be one in the same with whats feeding it its power. it might not have started out like that, but over the years your skin may have thickened in order to protect your ego and pride. you seem to have built up this defensive egotistical i am gods gift to poetry and fuck what you have to say attitude to avoid the fact that most feel your writing skills could use some improvement. its good to have confidence in your work, and a good amount of it is needed to to help you stay on the path. i think your fear of failure took this and went way overboard to compensate... in a sense lying to yourself. believing you have already succeeded takes the option of failure out of the picture completely. what the hell do you know? you are not the master of the poetical arts that is i. the only reason you dont appreciate all i have done for you is because you are too stupid to understand. you arent good enough for my poetry anyway. once you gain the amount of knowledge and sophistication necessary to read in between the lines as i do, you will see the error of your ways and praise me for allowing you to read my gospels. i am the greatest poet on earth. its no surprise to me really. you cant expect a 5 year old to appreciate the genius that was einstein and his theory of relativity. i might forgive you poor child...if i ever feel like it. or something like that anyway. this shit has got to go if you ever want people to take you seriously. you definitely have the ambition it takes to reach the pedestal you put yourself on. but im sorry, you are far from your perch. think about it for a minute or two. i am trying to stay away from the flames on this post, but yet i still need to be honest with you here. please dont take the things i say the wrong way. some of it is drenched with sarcasm and an overall disgust towards the warped views you hide from the truth behind. and some of that may seem a little harsh, but try to understand it all starts from the best of intentions. i would love to see you as the poet you know you are, and understand the poems you write with the same passion and emotion that lead you to write them in the first place. in order for that to happen, i think you should work on communicating your ideas in a more formal and universal layout that even those who are not poets can enjoy and comprehend. i dont know you, and i may be completely wrong about all of this. and if i am, it sure as hell isnt the first (or last) time that i will find myself in such a situation. you may be that world class poet you say you are and i, in a fit of jealousy, refuse to acknowledge your greatness for fear that i may be looked down upon by my peers. unwilling to devote the time and work needed to escape your shadow, i opt instead to take an easier approach to the problem... by discrediting your work with accusations of being armature at best, and playing you out to have a character that is not to be desired i hope to knock you down a few levels in the eyes of the jury, the lower the better i look by comparison. but you see, there is a flaw with this scenario. as mentioned earlier, i do not know you. you dont know any of the people i give a shit what think about me, and i know nothing of whos opinions you give a shit about either. it would be rather pointless for me to feel so threatened by a screen name that will never play any roll in my life what so ever, other than the portion i choose to use to interact with it on a drug based internet forum called the shroomery. it is equally as pointless for you to feel threatened by anything i have to say, weather it be constructive or down right cruel is not an issue. it will all amount to the same fraction of nothingness in the end. when you get off your computer and head out into the real world, how many people do you think you will run into that give a shit about what i have to say, or even know who the hell wrestler_az is for that matter? none. so why dont you take a peek outside of your fallout shelter tree house and consider the unbiased opinions of total strangers? no one here has anything to gain by belittling you or your poems, except maybe a bit of bitter sweet satisfaction of pushing a few of your buttons in retaliation to your overstuffed ego. those childish games aside, you should really take a good look at the responses you are getting. you might find some valuable information and feedback on what you are doing right, and what you could do differently to improve on you poems effectiveness. you will also get a bunch of bullshit responses from people that just like to bullshit. it is best to see these posts as what they are, and treat them as such. bullshit. not to be taken personal... they are coming from a source about as impersonal as they come. ignore these all together and focus on the ones that might have some use. and it is of course up to you weather you actually use the suggestions given, but what could it hurt to give them some consideration? im only trying to show you things as i see them from my point of view, which at times have been known to get a bit foggy. i wont present my opinions to you as truth because i never know when the next bit of fog might roll in to cloud my perspective. after all, i am only human. if you would look past this image you created for yourself, im sure you too would find a fragile mistake prone infant soul of a human. lost and crawling its way through the unknown, it strives for a purpose. yours seems to think poetry is the answer. dont let your ego get in the way of becoming that which you strive for. admit to yourself that you are human and allow yourself to act as one. every single human on the face of the planet has room for improvement, though it seems that less and less these days put that extra room to good use. you are definitely not a poetry god, and from where i stand it looks like your beliefs similar to these are keeping you from becoming that which you claim to be. you let your ego swell into that room for improvement like a cancer, eating away at any chance for improvement that happens to come strolling along before you even realize it was there. Quote: for you, i would recommend a healthy 3 gram dose of those wonderful fungi this site is dedicated to. get out into the wilderness somewhere with a pad of paper in one hand and pencil in the other. you might surprise yourself with what you write, but more likely it will be some random drug induced scribblings following no apparent train of thought. either way, write down what ever comes to mind. i suggest the paper and pencil not so you can magically produce perfect poems while under the mushrooms control, thats not how it works. the quality of what you write in this instance is not important. the paper and pencil (and the writing that comes with it) will act as a solid reminder of your passion through out your trip, and help it move in a direction more focused on the topic... possibly/hopefully helping you to better understand your motives, and pave the way for new inspiration to fill the gaps your deflating ego is leaving behind. what the hell am i talking about? why the hell did i just spend so much time on a post such as this? i must be stoned. or a dork. maybe both....ya, more than likely both. im done now. this post has no monetary value. so take it for what its worth.
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I'm the face of rock and roll.
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Stranger ![]() Registered: 07/10/03 Posts: 1,479 Loc: Washington |
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Quote: Go away! Im tired of seeing your shitty poems and you shooting down every piece of advice givin to you. You got your head so far up your ass you cant even see the light. Posting your poems on this forum is asking for critizim. Do you really expect people not to express their feelings to your work? Would it make you feel better if they straight up told you your a "superstar"? Wait...im pretty sure it would...disregard that. But if you cant take constructive critizims then you should honestly drop the pen and paper and dont pick it back up. Cause your not going to get anywhere till you see the flaw in your work. I dont really know why I keep posting in your threads. You always shootdown every piece of advice and attack others trying to help. Shit if I had admin to the forums I would of banned you from posting here long ago...
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The End
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In SomnisVeritas ![]() Registered: 06/20/06 Posts: 231 Last seen: 16 years, 2 months |
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Quote: Yea, I didn't think your way was all too bad given this guys attitude. lol But hey, we tried. Can't do much more than that! as for things I've written, it's been a few months since I've actually sat down and taken on a project, but I'll surely send you some old poems and short stories if I can find my flash drives. -------------------- :~:~:~:~{ * }~:~:~:~:{ * }:~:~:~:~{ * }~:~:~:~: All posts are made with only the intent to entertain myself and should ONLY be read with the understanding that they are FICTICIOUS. I do not warrant information I provide for use in illegal activity of any kind nor do I condone it for any reason. Furthermore, I am not, I have never, nor will I in the future, take ANY part in illegal activites.
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member Registered: 07/03/03 Posts: 298 Last seen: 17 years, 3 months |
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In all of my life on this earth,
ever since my birth, your a fuckin hack, thats my opinion for what its worth In all of my years ive never seen such crap, your never gonna get your face on a fucking map, See kid, i can write shitty poetry too, Because im a fucking artist so bow and worship me fool, I lack the capacity to beleive how you could be such a tool, like your jesus' own personal mule. There, i wrote a poem, and because i wrote it, its the BEST THING EVER! Now if you dont bow down to me and admit im the best thing to hit the fucking streets since sliced bread, i know your WRONG!! Since i took the time to write this i must be a god among men, and must be treated as such! Now do you see how ridiculous your acting? Do you think its a coincidence everyone in this forum thinks your no good?
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