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 Droz
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 Socks, Shoes, and Showers. 
#577019 - 03/12/02 03:02 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Are we afraid to get dirty or what? Maybe it is from the conditioning as a child. Or maybe the odor from not taking a shower bothered us so much. I wonder why we don't have a coat of fur like most other animals. Are we afraid of the naked body or what? Maybe its the conditioning as a child. Ask someone why can't we walk around naked and see what their response is. They certainly aren't going to have an open mind about it. Some people would just never understand. I wish we could walk around naked in society but we can't its against the law. Shoes are a good idea. You won't hurt your feet, right? Well now maybe you will never adapt to the earth's floor. Tell someone about that and see if they have an open mind about it. I wonder why white people are so white. Is it because they haven't been out in the sun for as long as the darker skinned people? I don't know im just rambling. Why when it gets cold outside we throw on extra layers of this artificial skin? Why don't we take our clothes off and adapt? Or does everyone think that theory is bs? Some things just don't make sense in the world. Any of you have any idea what im talking about?
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SoulTech
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 Re: Socks, Shoes, and Showers. [Re: Droz]
#577211 - 03/12/02 06:01 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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>>Are we afraid to get dirty or what? Maybe it is from conditioning as a child.
I think that "conditioning as a child" has everything to do with it. A child learns his or her culture through enculteration, therefore people grow up in a particular society where they are exposed to a specific cultural tradition. This goes for everything learned in our culture including walking around naked. This is just an attribute of a culture. For instance in many cultures around the world it is socially acceptable to walk around naked and it would be completely normal and natural. An interesting story I'll point out is that my anthropology teacher did some ethnography field work in Nepal. She is a white female who grew up in the United States. When she visited Nepal the natives thought she was obsessive compulsive and a neat freak because she changed her clothes and bathed every day or as often as she was able. In America this is common practice and some people might find it revolting if you didn't bathe often but in Nepal bathing once or twice a week or so is normal. I can't tell you why our cultures are they way they are but I'm sure it stems from the distant past and has many many factors.
>> I wonder why white people are so white. Is it because they haven't been out in the sun for as long as the darker skinned people?
Natural selection plays a key role in producing variation in skin color. "Melanin is the primary determinant of human skin color", it "screens out ultraviolet radiation from the sun and protects against maladies including sunburn and skin cancer." Before the 16th century most of the world's very dark skinned peoples lived in the tropics. Moving away from the tropics skin color tended to become lighter. Natural selection explains this: In the tropics, there is intense ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Unprotected humans there face the threat of severe sunburn, which can increase susceptibility to disease and inhibit the ability to sweat, and exposure to ultraviolet radiation can cause cancer. Having light skin in the tropics is a disadvantage.
The unclothed human body can produce its own vitamin D when exposed to sufficient sunlight. But in a cloudy environment that is also so cold that people have to dress themselves much of the year (Such as northern Europe), clothing interferes with the body's manufacturing of vitamin D. During northern winters, light skin color maximizes the absorption of ultraviolet radiation and manufacture of vitamin D by the few parts of the body that are exposed to direct sunlight. There has been selection against dark skin color in northern areas because melanin screens out ultraviolet radiation. Depending where people lived skin color played a role in survival.
I'm sorry for such a long post but i found this interesting and thought it might be of some value to you. I got just about all of this information from Conrad Phillip Kottak's book Cultural Anthropology. Thats my two cents.
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Re: Socks, Shoes, and Showers. [Re: Droz]
#577546 - 03/13/02 12:49 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Socks - it's cold out
Shoes - it's pointy out
Showers - it's germy out
pretty simple, really. look at the lifespan of those that don't use the above 3 vs those that do
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Droz
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Yeah its cold. Why not adapt to the weather?
Yeah you can hurt your feet. What doesn't kill you makes your stronger. Maybe after enough pointy things hurting your feet you will no longer be hurt by pointy things.
Germs. Let the germs come. Let the body heal.
Did you not get my point?
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Re: Socks, Shoes, and Showers. [Re: Droz]
#578042 - 03/13/02 05:13 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Perhaps on a greater scale we adapt to all these things, but not very quickly, and personally, since I don't know whether or not I'm going to be here tomorrow or not, I'm not just going to tempt fate by trying to catch diseases and fend them off.
Because of this sentence, "I wish we could walk around naked in society but we can't its against the law.", I thought the point you were trying to make was that people wouldn't do any of these things except that society has conditioned them to do them as a social norm. I was disagreeing with that statement, but if that's not what you were trying to prove, then nevermind.
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"Order some golf shoes," I whispered. "Otherwise, we'll never get out of this place alive. You notice these lizards don't have any trouble moving around in this muck - that's because they have ~claws~ on their feet."
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Re: Socks, Shoes, and Showers. [Re: Droz]
#578078 - 03/13/02 06:10 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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The locus of selection has shifted so much from the gene level to the meme (cultural) level. So this is really quite irrelevant.
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