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TruAvatar
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A few questions from someone new:
#5770122 - 06/19/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is there any advantage, with whole grains, to casing a full tank with respect to casing the jars in individual pans? It seems that a tank would take up less space, while pans provides a diverse group of individual systems, which is usually healthy.
When fruiting, why use intermittent light? The only thing I can think of is that while the mushrooms fruit in response to light, the mycelium need dark to continue growth. In this same vein, is there any CO2:O2 concentration that's been shown as optimum?
I've noticed several tek's describe the importance of casing grain very smoothly and evenly in order to obtain even flushes. Why is it necessary to obtain even, discrete flushes? If one can obtain a greater casing surface area by using a rough, hilly, 'natural' surface, wouldn't the result be a greater number of pins, overall? Is there some reason one could not harvest a fairly large tank in large patches at a time, as opposed to entirely discrete flushes? Am I missing something about light/temperature/fresh air rotations?
Finally, I've read of G2G inoculation ratio's from 40:1 to 4:1. The advantage to using a 4:1 ratio, I'd imagine, is that your jar starts 1/5 colonized. This probably makes incubation just about 1/5 quicker. Is this true?
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Re: A few questions from someone new: [Re: TruAvatar]
#5770203 - 06/19/06 10:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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> Is there any advantage, with whole grains, to casing a full tank with respect to casing the jars in individual pans?
Full tubs and tanks seem to contaminate easier and if they do you're out the entire volume rather than just one container. It also depends on your humidification method. You can have water buildup on the bottom if you're not careful and you won't notice if you have the whole floor of the tub covered.
> When fruiting, why use intermittent light?
It's more discrete, it requires less power, it heats your FC less, etc.. Constant light isn't required, so why waste the extra energy?
> Why is it necessary to obtain even, discrete flushes?
Many reasons. For one you mess with your myc less by harvesting all at once. For another they want to flush naturally (all at once) so you'll get less if they're not synchronized. There are other reasons that I can't remember or have time to explain.
> ...Is this true?
Yes.
-FF
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Re: A few questions from someone new: [Re: fastfred]
#5771912 - 06/20/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Many reasons. For one you mess with your myc less by harvesting all at once." This makes sense.
"For another they want to flush naturally (all at once) so you'll get less if they're not synchronized." Can anyone expand on this? I'm pretty sure that a person could get around a 25% increase in surface area if they tried... is there really such an advantage to discrete, whole tank flushes that it balances out this increase in fruiting surface?
Consider casing 16 jars in 8 pans, as opposed to one tank: the pans would not necessaraly all flush at once... wouldn't harvesting a full tank in big patches be similar to harvesting a few pans at a time?
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Re: A few questions from someone new: [Re: TruAvatar]
#5772970 - 06/20/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Damn, I had a longer response typed, but I lost it due to my shitty internet connection.
Anyway, to sum up they will flush in discrete flushes due to syncronization mechanisms that operate between connected myc. Your choices are to have a gangbuster first flush or a crappy one.
My other post was much more in depth, but feel free to experiment. I would save the experimentation for later though. You will get better results with an even casing layer IMO.
-FF
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