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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Economist]
#5780604 - 06/22/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Economist said: But does it matter? What could police do at the report of "People in a park were cheering when one of the towers was hit!" to stop the attack on the second tower?
Let's assume you pretend you misunderstood my point, so you don't come across as too stupid. Of course, my point concerning the "dancing Israelis" had nothing to do with preventing any attack, it had to do with showing the Mossad had advance knowledge of the precise details of the attacks.
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More concretely, what part of the statement "Those towers won't be there next week!" would cause anyone to think to scramble jets? Prior to 2001 there was no reason to expect any type of aerial assault.
This has adequately been addressed by David_vs_Goliath. Congrats, we have a high quality recruit here (with lots of time!).
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Phred]
#5780648 - 06/22/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Phred said: What do you suggest the government should have done? Rounded up members of Manhattan's Middle Eastern community and beat them with phone books till they cracked?
Ah, that urge for torture... So predictible. There are other, less violent and more effective means. No, I only suggest they should have done what any domestic intelligence service routinely does: monitoring sensitive communities using informants. If average mosque-goers and schoolkids knew the details, surely they were available to FBI informants.
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Let's assume the authorities followed the same train of thought -- that there may be a terrorist plot underway to repeat the 93 WTC bombing, but to get it RIGHT this time. They would then have been on the lookout for bombers and bombs. They didn't find any because there weren't any to find. The plot had to do with airplanes instead.
Yeah, well they surely expected Al-Qaeda airstrikes six weeks earlier in Genoa to kill Bush. But that was a plot they did not want to succeed, so they took their air defense missiles along from home.. If they knew a terrorist plot was underway and wanted to prevent it, they would logically have covered all options. They did in Genoa, they did not in New York. Maybe they had forgotten their missiles in Genoa?
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It is not impossible that Israeli intelligence figured out what was going on and decided it would be helpful to Israel's interests to have the US get more actively involved in killing Islamic terrorists, so they kept their knowledge to themselves.
Like I said before, that would be perfectly plausible absent all those other pieces of evidence indicating the US stubbornly looked the other way. And in that case, I wonder why the Mossad would have warned the US at all, as they did.
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Nothing Phred???
Whuh?
"Nothing" what, Davie? I responded to Aldous. Isn't that what you were giving me shit for earlier? What more do you want?
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Aldous]
#5780741 - 06/22/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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If average mosque-goers and schoolkids knew the details, surely they were available to FBI informants.
See, that is the essential difference between the tinfoil hat brigade and people who take an unbiased look at actual facts without a particular agenda they need to prove.
You ascribe godlike powers to the US government -- for no discernible reason and against pretty much all available historical evidence -- by assuming:
1) the FBI has informants everywhere
2) these informants were privy to actionable intelligence prior to the attack
3) these informants were just dying to come forward with this intelligence
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Like I said before, that would be perfectly plausible absent all those other pieces of evidence indicating the US stubbornly looked the other way.
Once again we see the standard tinfoil hat brigade line of "argument". Throw out a bunch of chaff, then when each piece of chaff is shown to be worthless, claim the amount of worthless chaff they provide proves that the chaff isn't worthless at all.
"Well... I admit that Point A turns out to be bogus, and Point B turns out to be fake, and Point C was found out after the attack, and Point D was too vague to do anything about and Point E was a misinterpretation by Alex Jones after all, and Point F could have turned out to be true, if only things were a little different... but hey! I came up with SIX different things! That's gotta count for something, man."
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Phred]
#5780778 - 06/22/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Phred said: "Well... I admit that Point A turns out to be bogus, and Point B turns out to be fake, and Point C was found out after the attack, and Point D was too vague to do anything about and Point E was a misinterpretation by Alex Jones after all, and Point F could have turned out to be true, if only things were a little different... but hey! I came up with SIX different things! That's gotta count for something, man."
I realize you're dying for this kind of admissions, but they are still to be made by your friends of the brigade. And, lacking sufficient grounds, I doubt they will be.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Clean]
#5780939 - 06/22/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thermate Identified As Culprit Of WTC Collapse
Video Evidence:
Here is a video that will show what thermite is capable of , Dr. Steven E. Jones recently finds Thermate on physical samples , evidence that Thermate was used on 9/11. Watch all 3 seminars of Steven E. Jones as he discusses his findings:
Lecture 2/1/2006 (UVSC) Lecture 4/6/2006 (USVC Update) Lecture 6/17/2006 (Chicago)
Alex and Paul Joseph Watson have written an entire article devoted to this subject. Also, check out Alex Jones Weekly Report 1.27.04 about the mysterious collapse of WTC7. And observe this scientific experiment on how thermite burns though a car engine within seconds, and watch the video of molten metal found underneath the rubble of the WTC buildings 6 weeks later.
Photo Evidence:
USGS Spectoscopy Lab produced images which show dense thermal hotspots, ABC News reported "the temperature at the core of "the pile," is near 2000 degrees Fahrenheit. Photos of cut WTC columns effected by Thermite. White Flames of Thermite at WTC towers. Here is the famous molten metal photo of a crane pulling out a chunk of red-hot metal 6 weeks after 9/11, physics tells us this peice is burning at around 650*C just by the color. And last but not least, the molten metal slag photo which shows a reddish colour which looks like rust, but is the result of thermite reaction to steel causing molten iron to form.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Phred]
#5781041 - 06/22/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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You ascribe godlike powers to the US government -- for no discernible reason and against pretty much all available historical evidence -- by assuming:
1) the FBI has informants everywhere
2) these informants were privy to actionable intelligence prior to the attack
3) these informants were just dying to come forward with this intelligence
Well phred if you are going to make a statement like this mabey if you would have read my post from this morning you are totally contradicting everything I said. The government does have sources everywhere they were just to arrogant to listen to them. If you would just go to this site and read all this information (none of it written by the tin-hats, it is all collected from various news sources, magazines, and congresional meetings). You would then realize how much information the government had before the attacks on 9/11. There are 258 articles associated with warning signs of the attack dating years back before the attack. I don't want to fight I just want to hear what you have to say about this.
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Well phred if you are going to make a statement like this mabey if you would have read my post from this morning you are totally contradicting everything I said.
That would be because everything you said was beside the point.
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The government does have sources everywhere ...
Actually, no they don't.
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If you would just go to this site and read all this information (none of it written by the tin-hats, it is all collected from various news sources, magazines, and congresional meetings). You would then realize how much information the government had before the attacks on 9/11.
And once again I must point out to yet another newcomer that just because you are late to the party doesn't mean we all are. I've been to that site before, many times. It's quite extensive. It is an excellent resource as far as it goes. But a careful reading of what is listed there supports my point perfectly. There was not enough actionable intelligence available to the US government prior to September 11, 2001 to have foiled the plot absent a massive and prolonged violation of civil liberties. A "warning sign" is not actionable intelligence.
You apparently have difficulty grasping what the world was like pre-9/11 -- what the political and cultural reality of the September 10 world was. That's okay -- you are young and cannot be expected to remember what things were like then.
Fuck this. I'm tired of writing and re-writing the same stuff every few months to satisfy n00bs to lazy to look into past posts -- even when the links to those posts are handed to them on a silver platter. I'm going to bump the threads now.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Phred]
#5781707 - 06/22/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Clean]
#5782722 - 06/23/06 01:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's strange that no-one would react to Clean's posts. This is the second one about the physical evidence of thermate. For me, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming, but it remains circumstantial and thus debatable for people like Phred, which is perfectly OK.
This one, however, is physical and material.
So Phred, here's your mission. Explain away the presence of large quantities of molten iron underneath the rubble of the 3 WTC towers, up to six weeks after 9/11, not forgetting the traces of other metals and of sulfur are completely consistent with thermate, and that the presence of molten iron is completely inconsistent with a plain kerosene or office fire, or any building fire for that matter, no matter how hot. Also, where does the iron come from in a steel buidling? Next, show me a link to the official explanations, if any, for these pools of molten metal, and show me where the successive investigations analyzed the chemical composition of said metal, like they surely must have routinely done in the frame of their investigations. If you can't find any explanation or analysis, explain why. Next, absent any alternative explanation, maybe you can have a shot at a personal explanation of the incredible temperatures and the significant presence of iron on the premises. Next, absent a personal alternative explanation, explain how the presence of thermate fits into the official story. Explain where and when the thermate was set up by Atta and his crew, or how it got to an outer corner column if they carried it with them in the planes. Don't forget to explain how the thermate got into building 7.
I'm looking forward to see your rigourous logic applied to this tricky question, I'm sure you'll clear things up. Remember, we even need more rigor here, this is about material, not circumstantial evidence.
Thank you
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Aldous]
#5782813 - 06/23/06 02:13 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Phred]
#5782918 - 06/23/06 03:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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there was not enough actionable intelligence
There was enough intelligence that the able danger team was going to move with the fbi to attack the "body" of al queada in the us, until the pentagon lawyers moved in and prevented their efforts. If there was no actionable intelligence then the able danger team would have never tried to get the fbi involved. The reasons for the lawyers preventing that and who exactly was leading those lawyers is not known. And also the ultimate decision as to who called the halt to able danger moving with the fbi to break up these cells is not known. Most likely someone high up at the DoD. Neither you nor I know the exact reasoning, and since we don't you can speculate as to their high moral fiber being incapable of any such involvement with 9/11.
While I can look around me, to the very war they are waging on innocents in my country for this sham they call a war on drugs, how they are hoarding wealth while fucking the middle class people and know they they have no moral fiber whatsoever and are capable of anything to further their own ends. Under that light, I find it quite within the realm of possibility, that they used lawyers to obstruct able danger from caring out it's mission so that the terrorists could carry out theirs. (Even if they didn't know exactly what the hijackers mission was) And mind you, I said with in the realm of possibility, which if you read things like PNAC, the realm of possibility is very large indeed.
Phred you need to take a good look at the poll here.
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official - 8 11% incompetence - 9 13% LIHOP - 20 28% MIHOP - 31 44% other (explain) apart from "your nuts" - 3 04%
You are the minority. So no matter how superior you may feel in your ability to tote the party line so high and mighty for us all to see, most of the people here don't buy it. How does that make you feel? It brings a smile to my face
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Economist]
#5783088 - 06/23/06 06:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Economist said: I lived in Northern New Jersey in September of 2001. I knew people who went to work on the 11th and never came home again. I watched on live television 2 planes crash into the towers. I have seen videos of Osama Bin Laden taking credit for 9/11 and threatening to do it again.
Oh, you mean you saw that one video where osama allegedly confesses to the attacks? Well, look closer. Who can guess which is the real osama, and which is the osama that showed up on that video?
If that's not a smoking gun!
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html
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Where is the concrete evidence, the taped confessions, the video footage of bombs being placed in the towers. What documents have been released containing (as Phred has repeatedly stated) ACTIONABLE intelligence that was not acted upon. Give me proof!
The real question is, if it really was the government that did it, would you want to know?
If you want some very good video footage, all you needed to do was watch TV that morning. Go on google video and check out "9/11 Revisited", its free. I find this to be the best documentary out there concerning 9/11. Its basically a compilation of what the mainstream media reporters where filming and saying when they were on the spot at pre-ground zero. There's more than an hour of footage where you hear eyewitness reports of explosions in the towers, as well as the reporters saying they were hearing bombs themselves. Check it out.
But the next day everyone forgot about all this, even about wtc7, all the mentions of explosions were never heard of again in the media.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5783103 - 06/23/06 06:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RosettaStoned said: Phred you need to take a good look at the poll here.
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official - 8 11% incompetence - 9 13% LIHOP - 20 28% MIHOP - 31 44% other (explain) apart from "your nuts" - 3 04%
You are the minority.
Yet another example of the tinfoil hat brigade falling for fallacious evidence. This is a non-scientific poll conducted across a very small, and very biased population. It is 100% meaningless in a scientific sense. Using this poll for anything other than entertainment is a gross error.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Seuss]
#5783226 - 06/23/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not a fan of polls, but if you think a poll conducted in a scientific way on a large sample of average population can be used for other purposes than entertainment, have a look at this one.
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Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and “Consciously Failed” To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York’s Attorney General.
In my view, however, truth doesn't have anything to do with numbers or with people's beliefs. One can be right alone against a wrong majority. Polls mean nothing in this respect. The one in this thread is just an indication of the views of people on this forum. And I think Phred is used to feeling lonely. Maybe he even likes it.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Aldous]
#5783543 - 06/23/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's quite convenient to just ignore evidence that doesn't fit with one's belief system...
The 9-11 commission report completely ignored the fact that WTC 1 and 2 had 47 core support columns running from bottom to top. They assert simply that "the interior core of the [Twin Towers] was a hollow steel shaft, in which the elevators and stairwells were grouped."
The National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) conceals the controlled demolition of the towers.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: exclusive58]
#5783703 - 06/23/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's more than an hour of footage where you hear eyewitness reports of explosions in the towers, as well as the reporters saying they were hearing bombs themselves. Check it out.
But the next day everyone forgot about all this, even about wtc7, all the mentions of explosions were never heard of again in the media.
I can't believe I only became aware of this in the last few months. Indeed, people in the sub levels said explosions went off down there and turned rooms in the sub levels to rubble and that there was lots of white smoke, disintigrated hydrolic equipment, collapsing walls and injuries from them.
Interesting that the owner of WTC 7 is said to have said that he made the decision to pull (demolish) his building that day. Is it true that he received a little over 8 hundred million, from his insurance companay, when the cost to rebuild it was only around 300 million and that he profited 5 hundred million?
That question aside, who placed and set the bombs in the WTC 1 and 2? Al Queda could've done that. I watched the interview of the project manager for the construction of the WTC taken years before 9/11, (he died in it). He said those buildings were designed to take multiple hits from even larger planes and not fall.
So, I'm thinking, if one wanted them to fall, they would have to use a thermite demolition. Then I ask, why bother with the planes? Well, it seems they served as a HUGE distraction causing tremendous chaos and panic. Whatever was happening on the sub levels seems to have gotten next to no attention, people were just scrambling to get out and those going in to help were going in to put fires out at the plane impact levels and getting people down and out from the higher floors.
The government becomes suspect because like you said exclusive, where are their investigations and statements about the sub level explosions? It does appear that they have been swept under the rug. Why? If they had no hand in at least allowing for any of this to happen, why wasn't the investigation into that being reported back to us by the administration?
Maybe it was and I just never caught any of it. What is the official explanation for the sub level explosions by the administration? Anyone have links to those? I'd like to review them as well.
On a final note, I am curious if this "tin foil hat" ad hominem works on anyone anymore to get them to shut up out of fear they won't be accepted as being "normal"?
Last time I checked, the norm was the average. Polls here and elsewhere show that the average norm, doesn't by the official story.
Calling everyone internationally wide, who doesn't buy the official story from the White House administration, a paranoid schizophrenic is highly speculative and a gross misjudgment without any scientific research done to determine this sweeping diagnosis of the majority of poll takers to be a fact.
Aren't the people using that tin foil phrase against others making arm chair clinical psychological diagnosis without any medical evidence for them?
In S&P, the best debaters say that only when people run out of arguments and good points and feel they are loosing a debate, do they resort to the ad hominem attack. If some of you feel so confident about the evidence supporting the official story from the administration, and your ability to counter all objections to it raised, you shouldn't have to resort to ad homonyms in the debates.
The two people using them in here, where they are against the rules are a mod and an admin as well.
It's okay. We understand it if you don't have legitimate counter arguments to explain all of the circumstatial evidence, agaisnt the official story away. We don't either and that's why we don't buy the offcial story from the White House Adminstration.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: RosettaStoned]
#5783745 - 06/23/06 01:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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There was enough intelligence that the able danger team was going to move with the fbi to attack the "body" of al queada in the us, until the pentagon lawyers moved in and prevented their efforts.
If you had read the interview with Shaffer you would know that all they had was a correlation between the visits to mosques members of Al Qaeda made and Atta and some others made. The Able Danger team interpreted (correctly, as it eventually turns out) this correlation as evidence that Atta was also an Al Qaeda member, and decided to pass this information on to the FBI so the FBI could investigate further.
*** As a side note, observe that this cuts the feet out from under those tinfoil hat brigade members who insist to this day that it was not an Al Qaeda operation. But let's not go into that now. ***
The problem was that at the time the Able Danger analysts wanted to pass the information on to other agencies, Atta (and perhaps all the others as well) definitely met the definition of a "US person" as described in FISA and other pieces of relevant legislation. The DoD lawyers ruled (perhaps correctly, perhaps incorrectly) that information developed through the Able Danger program could not be passed on to other investigatory bodies (i.e. the FBI) without violating the FISA protections applicable to "US persons".
Your take on their decision is they made no reference to existing legislation -- they were told to nix the meeting no matter what. You have no evidence this was the case, you just assume this was so. Why do you assume this was so? Oh... never mind. I see you answered that later on -- it's because of "...the very war they are waging on innocents in my country for this sham they call a war on drugs, how they are hoarding wealth while fucking the middle class people and know they they have no moral fiber whatsoever and are capable of anything to further their own ends."
Uh huh. Well, I guess if they are that reptilian they would have no qualms about letting Jihadis wipe out the stockbrokers in New York who managed their money and enabled them to hoard wealth and fuck the middle class. And they would certainly have no compunction about letting Jihadis wipe out ther colleagues in the Pentagon and the Capitol and the White House while they were at it. I mean hey... they are so deluded by their own sense of all-powerfulness they just figured they could continue fucking over people even after the government they manipulated from behind the scenes had been wiped out. So even though they believe they are evil geniuses, it turns out they are actually just evil morons. That's a relief.
Just for the sake of argument, though, let's run with your assumption and see where we end up.
Why would the higher-highers at the Pentagon (and possibly those at even higher levels of government who were giving the Pentagon crowd their marching orders) not want the FBI sicced on Atta and the others? If we go with either the LIHOP or MIHOP crowd, we would have to say it's because even at that early stage -- while Clinton was still president -- the higher-highers at the Pentagon already knew Atta and his buddies were planning a major attack, and they wanted the attack to go forward, presumably so they could get to play soldier by invading first Afghanistan, then a couple years later, Iraq.
This necessarily means that even at such an early stage, there were already dozens of people in on the conspiracy. And all those people have managed to keep it a secret to this day. No leaks. Not even one.
It also necessarily means that even at such an early stage, Al Qaeda's security had been compromised, and someone in the organization had leaked the plans to either the Americans or to American agents. It also necessarily means the Pentagon higher-highers knew for quite some time enough of the specifics of the plan to make sure they themselves were nowhere near the Pentagon on D-day. Or in Manhattan, or in the Capitol or in the White House. This necesarily means that very early on, Al Qaeda had decided on the date of the attack and the targets of the attack. Either that or it means the mole in Al Qaeda -- a VERY highly-placed mole at that -- was able to update the American government (even after the change in presidencies) on any changes in the plan as it developed.
Now... is any of the above impossible? No, it is not impossible. In human affairs almost anything is possible. But it is improbable in the extreme. And I tend not to believe improbable things without compelling reasons to do so. In nearly five years of discussion of this event, no one has presented compelling reasons to believe that dozens (at the least) of career officers in the US military:
a) -- are all inhuman enough to condemn thousands of their fellow Americans -- including colleagues they have known for their entire careers and the very politicians they manipulated to keep themselves in power -- to death just so they could fight a couple of real wars rather than boring old military exercises.
b) -- are capable of keeping a conspiracy of this size, spanning a couple of years, completely silent for another five years after the fact with no leaks and no defectors and no slip-ups. Not even a single one of them babbling in drunken remorse, or converting to Born Again Christianity and making a tearful confession, or committing suicide after leaving note spilling the beans. Not one.
c) -- have the guts to place themselves in such a precarious position in the first place. The consequences to them personally if their part is ever revealed are hideous beyond imagining. They would literally be ripped limb from limb by a lynch mob.
And this also necessarily means that Al Qaeda didn't know (and do not know to this day) they were being played. As far as Al Qaeda was concerned, their security was airtight. Because anyone who thinks Al Qaeda wouldn't trumpet to the skies any foreknowledge of complicity by The Great Satan is clinically insane. It would be a propaganda coup an order of magnitude greater than the attack itself. This also of course means no inimical foreign intelligence services knew either.
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Under that light, I find it quite within the realm of possibility, that they used lawyers to obstruct able danger from caring out it's mission so that the terrorists could carry out theirs. (Even if they didn't know exactly what the hijackers mission was).
There in a nutshell is the difference between yourself and people who make the effort to think things through in a rational manner. It would be absolute insanity for those who had discovered Al Qaeda was operating inside America to let them carry out their plots without knowing pretty much to a certainty what those plots were, so they could be far away on the days those plots came to fruition. Jihadis are into dying to further their cause. Higher-highers in the US government are not.
In closing, may I remind you that you STILL haven't gotten back to me on the very first nonsense I called you on way back on the first page of the thread, specifically your claims that --
"There is far too much evidence out there showing that the FBI was monitoring some of the hijackers every moves, then went to nab then and pentagon lawyers and top pentagon brass stepped in and prevented it"
Would you please provide us a link showing the FBI was monitoring "every move" of some of the hijackers. Then please provide us a link showing they had decided to arrest them. Then please provide us a link showing where the FBI falls under the jurisdiction of the military, hence would halt these planned arrests because some military personnel nixed it.
While you're at it, you might as well also provide us the links supporting your assertion that some FBI agents had their lives and the lives of their families threatened (by whom?) if they didn't back off.
Thanks.
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Seuss]
#5783959 - 06/23/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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RosettaStoned said: Phred you need to take a good look at the poll here.
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official - 8 11% incompetence - 9 13% LIHOP - 20 28% MIHOP - 31 44% other (explain) apart from "your nuts" - 3 04%
You are the minority.
Yet another example of the tinfoil hat brigade falling for fallacious evidence. This is a non-scientific poll conducted across a very small, and very biased population. It is 100% meaningless in a scientific sense. Using this poll for anything other than entertainment is a gross error.
Here is an example of right wing loonies trying to attack someone's character as an effort to discredit what they are saying. I never claimed it was a scientific poll. All I said is you are the minority HERE. On THIS web site to the people reading what he is saying. Obvoiusly the people HERE don't buy the offical story. I never claimed he was the minority in the world, I clearly said the people here.
It's amusing I get a tinfoil hat and I never even mentioned one thing about controled demolition or missle or anything. But thanks the tin foil hat, I shall wear it with pride
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Re: poll ..9/11 conspiracy theories... [Re: Phred]
#5784055 - 06/23/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Suggesting I didn't read my own link again, please don't ever change Phred
-------------------- "Government big enough to provide you with all you need is also big enough to take everything you have." ~ Thomas Jefferson "Without stupid, faggy potheads we wouldn't have wars." - Zappa
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