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Re: Helicopter [Re: Parabolalala]
    #5868037 - 07/17/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Insulation is irrelevant. The cops are not looking for heat, they're looking for periodic spikes in your power consumption.


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3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Helicopter [Re: Diploid]
    #5868151 - 07/17/06 02:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah other electrical appliances turn on and off too, they also got to be looking at wattage,

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Re: Helicopter [Re: capliberty]
    #5868717 - 07/17/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They're not looking for high wattage devices turning on and off per se.

They're charting your electrical usage on a graph, and looking for grow cycles. Even if you had a small 100w HPS running on 12/12 they could still see that something is turning on and off every 12 hours to make the connection.

Also, HID lights spike when they turn on as a part of the starting process. Obviously, this "appliance" would reflect this on the graph.

There's some company in Canada selling boxes for landlords to use to do this exact same thing to catch tenants with grow rooms, so this is not a wild guess here. The private sector has it already, so you KNOW the gov't does too.

The question is whether or not the practice is legal or not. But if they do it secretly, use it only to get a "heads up", and then investigate you and find other probable cause to use to apply for a search warrant, then how would it ever get challenged?


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OfflineSeussA
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Re: Helicopter [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5868826 - 07/17/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

> Even if you had a small 100w HPS running on 12/12 they could still see that something is turning on and off every 12 hours to make the connection.

Diploid was talking about running two rooms, each out of sync with the other by 12 hours. When one light turns off, the other turns on.

> Also, HID lights spike when they turn on as a part of the starting process.

A lot of devices in my home spike when they turn on... my refrigerator, my hot water heater (electric), my toaster oven, my computer, etc...


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Re: Helicopter [Re: Seuss]
    #5868908 - 07/17/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was the one that suggested having 2 flowering rooms.

And you wouldn't want to have "one light turn on and the other off". What I said was you have your light or lights on 24 hrs, and either move the light back and forth between two rooms on a long cord, or else you could also swap 2 sets of plants in and out of one room every 12 hours. The plants on dark cycle can be moved into any room with no lights at all.

I wish I could find that thread about the canadian grow room buster thing sold for landlords website. It shows the graph and if you saw it you'd realize why it will find even small watt lights. If anyone can find that thread or remembers it, please link to it. I searched for 15 min and couldn't find it.


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Re: Helicopter [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5871817 - 07/18/06 12:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Agree with ditch everything and all the proper clean ups.

I tend to belive by the story someone is fucking with your friend because A.They wouldnt fly a helicopter that low to the ground in a residential area. B.One 125W bulb is no where enough to grow the amount he would have to be belived to have to warrent the whole search. C.Cops rarely let your know that obvisouly that they are on too you, I always belive the more I see them the less they are watching me.

Do a clean up, clean out and stay cool awhile but I wouldnt be selling the house just yet.

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Re: Helicopter [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5876567 - 07/19/06 04:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

I was the one that suggested having 2 flowering rooms.

And you wouldn't want to have "one light turn on and the other off". What I said was you have your light or lights on 24 hrs, and either move the light back and forth between two rooms on a long cord, or else you could also swap 2 sets of plants in and out of one room every 12 hours. The plants on dark cycle can be moved into any room with no lights at all.




Oops... thanks for the clairification.  :smile:


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InvisiblePrisoner#1
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Re: Helicopter [Re: quiver]
    #5878560 - 07/19/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

quiver said:
same as hydro shops
i've heard cops have staked them out and take down peoples plates when they drive in





my brother and I knew this guy, did a little business with him, gary was cool, jailed back in the early 90s because he wouldnt turn over his customer list

http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A10762

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Re: Helicopter [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5879380 - 07/19/06 09:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

10 years for selling light bulbs that is bull shit.


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Re: Helicopter [Re: mikeownow]
    #5903808 - 07/26/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if you can wire stuff. High times had an expensive ballast that will flip power from one room to another on a 12 hr schedule. No need to move plants or lights. just have to have money for all the gear


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Re: Helicopter [Re: msisaves]
    #6023954 - 09/03/06 01:33 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

If you want an alternative, grow Tomatos instead of Marijuana. Don't grow orchids or anything. Tomatos are the closest to Pot I think. I don't remember where I read that, but this happened to some guy and he fooled the cops when they got a warrant by replacing his Pot with tomato plants.

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