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19741974
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Useing regular seed starter for the casing?
#5765417 - 06/18/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just made some eariler post here about useing ball jars and rye or bird seed for the substraight. tomorrow when i ready to Pressure cook everything i'm going to put one jar on casing in too to have it ready. The stuff i got says it consists of canadian sphagnum peat moss, vermiculite, limstone and a watering agent. if use this and mix a little amount of perlite in would that work? the seed starter is made by hoffman and has no extra nutrients. Thanx for any help.
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: 19741974]
#5765441 - 06/18/06 07:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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no need for perlite in your casing layer. id check out that watering agent too. if it's water absorbing crystals whose purpose is to provide constant water content, you should avoid it.
personally i dont see whats so hard about buying a bag of verm a bag of peat and mix up your own casing.
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: coda]
#5765464 - 06/18/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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actually there's a thread over in advanced about the watering crystals, and some folks have had really good results with them. constant moisture content is a good thing. if you overwater they pick up the excess, and if you miss a misting they slowly release moisture to fill in the gap there too. the mix you have sounds good to me actually.
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: creamcorn]
#5765471 - 06/18/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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it's also really easy to fuck up your casing layer, there's a reason why that thread is in the advanced forum. For someone just starting out they should focus on getting the basics down first before moving on to advanced techniques.
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: 19741974]
#5765484 - 06/18/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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19741974 said: the seed starter is made by hoffman and has no extra nutrients. Thanx for any help.
seed starters are generaly ideal for casings because they contain all you need, vermiculite, sphagnum/peat moss and a little lime, add nothing to it and you do not want any extra nutrition in a casing, that leads to contams
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19741974
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5765598 - 06/18/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well some say yea some say na. I might try it because it does contain all the right stuff. However if you look at the seed starter there is little peices of metal and i'm not sure if that is the water crystals or the lime or somthing that is not listed on the package that needs to be. Thanx guys.
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: 19741974]
#5765645 - 06/18/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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the flakes of metal are just the vermiculite, wich looks like flakes of metal
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19741974
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: Eraserhead]
#5767170 - 06/19/06 08:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hello, I have one last question about casing. I noticed at this link http://www.shroomery.org/index.php/par/23619 , it shows the substraight being added to the top of the casing. Should'nt the substraight go in first and then cover with the casing. or can it just be mixed all together? Thanx, everyone has been so helpfull to me.
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: 19741974]
#5767194 - 06/19/06 08:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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In that example, 6T was using a top and BOTTOM casing layer, in which the latter is optional. Some swear by a thin layer of casing material under their substrate layer in smaller casings. Some, like myself, never use them. Just crumble your substrate and layer your casing material on top as evenly as possible, no mixing.
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19741974
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: Premedman1]
#5767202 - 06/19/06 08:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanx Premedman1. Also Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is one of my all time fave's.
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: 19741974]
#5767207 - 06/19/06 08:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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that was him spawning. not casing.
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Premedman1
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5767240 - 06/19/06 08:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Irregardless, just stick with my original post and check out Hyphae's Pinning Strategy for fine tuning your techniques.
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Edited by Premedman1 (06/19/06 10:14 AM)
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Re: Useing regular seed starter for the casing? [Re: Premedman1]
#5767280 - 06/19/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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that was him spawning. its obvious. no one uses 6 lbs of casing for 2 quarts wbs
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