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MystikMushroom
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Questions
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Questions are good, answers are great...
Realizing there will always be questions...
Thats even better!
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slaphappy
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Why?
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BlueCoyote
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We can only question something from a context we know of. So, the real questions are still out there.
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slaphappy
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Is the real context unknown to us?
Do we have context at all?
Why?
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BlueCoyote
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slaphappy said: Is the real context unknown to us?
Very much of it is unknown to us, yes.
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Do we have context at all?
A very limited one, yes, constantly subjectively over-evaluated 
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Why?
Without context we could not exist in any form, me thinks.
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redgreenvines
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questions are like gasoline for the quest. fill yup your tank and go.
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Gomp
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Get the question .. ..have the answer!
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gettinjiggywithit
jiggy


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I like this one-
The solution to a problem is found within the cause of the problem itself.
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capliberty
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What use are questions? I'd rather have the answers.
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gettinjiggywithit
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capliberty said: What use are questions? I'd rather have the answers.
Okay Einstien, they are
Red
98
Oxygen
and Turtles.
Don't you feel smart now for knowing just answers without questions set before them? 
Perhaps you want to clarify that comment on how just answers without correlating problems or questions are of use to you.
Give an example while you're at it if you will. 
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capliberty
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Well you give me answers to specific questions?
I want answers to general questions, which aren't hard to manufacture but not easy to answer.
How can I know god more intimately?
How can I obtain peace and happiness constantly?
How do you obtain richness in spirit?
What ideas will work for me to make more successful in life?
easy to come up questions, but harder to answer
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gettinjiggywithit
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Questions are of great use and I don't understand why you said they were of no use in helping us to understand ourselves, others and life.
Answers alone are useless. Answers are always found in the questions, like I proposed in my first reply. For example-
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How can I know god more intimately?
By intimately knowing God
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How can I obtain peace and happiness constantly?
Constantly be peaceful and happy
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How do you obtain richness in spirit?
Be in spirit to be in its riches
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What ideas will work for me to make me more successful in life?
Successful ones.

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thatiAM
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capliberty said: How can I know god more intimately?
How can I obtain peace and happiness constantly?
How do you obtain richness in spirit?
What ideas will work for me to make more successful in life?
-Surrender to God. Think about nothing but God. Find his love blooming for you within everything.
-The delusion is that you need constant peace and happiness. Those are just feelings. It is like eating a diet of only pizza. Accept turmoil and grief, you will find that it is only the story that is affected by any of these emotions. Real self is untouched by anything but itself, in its complete simplicity. And you are it.
-Surrender surrender surrender always.
-Lose interest in the story of your life and the story of your 'me'.
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capliberty
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pointless, if they that easy to answer than why have this forum, I guess what I want is specfic answers to general questions not general answers for general questions and maybe visa versa as well, general answers to specfic questions, rewording my question to make an answer has very little meaning, whats 2+2 the answer is -2+2-2+2
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capliberty
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Surrender to God. Think about nothing but God. Find his love blooming for you within everything.
-The delusion is that you need constant peace and happiness. Those are just feelings. It is like eating a diet of only pizza. Accept turmoil and grief, you will find that it is only the story that is affected by any of these emotions. Real self is untouched by anything but itself, in its complete simplicity. And you are it.
-Surrender surrender surrender always.
-Lose interest in the story of your life and the story of your 'me'.
even though I maynot agree, at least this is more specfic and makes an attempt to answer my questions, which I find more useful than rewording my questions, but I guess having questions there to answer makes sense to, so I like both the question and the answer, if thats saying anything
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gettinjiggywithit
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Questions that have no meaning will result in answers that are meaningless.
Tell me, what do those questions you asked mean to you?
Why do you want them answered?
What difference will they make in your life?
Take them one by one.
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thatiAM
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It really is simple, though. Looking for a closer relationship with God? Well, then pray and surrender. It is why we aren't all awake. We tangle everything up in nonsense and complexity when really everything is extremely simple. The thing is that realizing its simplicity is completely experiential knowledge. I can say how simple it is over and over but it doesn't mean anything. You have to experience it for yourself, so if that's what you want then get cracking.
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capliberty
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Tell me, what do those questions you asked mean to you?
I don't know what they mean to me, maybe figuring that out is the answer, what actually does have any real meaning, it can mean alot of different things, such as the idea of surrending
I'll say a well thought out meaning is what I want, something with depth,
really this forum has no meaning and either does this argument
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thatiAM
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Surrender is something you don't learn in a book or by talking to people. You just have to wing it until you get the idea. There's no big red surrender button on your chest. Finding a way to do it anyway is the point 
You believe in God and desire a closer relationship with him, so pray to him sincerely and intimately, asking for help surrendering or with whatever spiritual goal it is that you have.
This forum can be away for people who are seeking 'enlightenment' to join together and discuss ideas. There is nothing more important than waking up. So if this forum helps to inspire people then that's pretty meaningful.
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gettinjiggywithit
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really this forum has no meaning and either does this argument
I knew your questions were hollow.
If you havn't questioned what it is you are doing here and have no idea what that answer is then of course your participation will be meaningless to you. Only you can make your experience here meaningful and only you can give meaning to the questions and answers in life.
No one can do that for you.
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capliberty
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I never wanted answers to these questions in the first place, you wanted examples, so I gave them to you, I just wanted to illustrate the point of how questions are easy to generate, but hard to answer, as I was trying to convey a point in my first statement, of how I wanted answers not questions
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gettinjiggywithit
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I'm sorry if you misunderstood. I wanted an example of how just an answer without a preceding problem or question for it had any use.
Hairspray is the answer.
What good is that answer without knowing the problem and question?
I just didn't understand why you said that questions are useless.
Like you said, this discussion about why you said that is useless. I will sleep just fine weather I understand or not why you said that. Its not a problem. I was just curious what would make one say something like that. No biggy! 
Why bother generating questions if I can ask though? Don't they just come up naturally for you through out the day? Sure it's hard to come up with them when it's forced and why do we ever need too?
Most answers come easy when you develop your intuition. The insight just pours in or the intuitive guide leads you to a source of information that has an answer. I think the questions have to pop up of natural course and be sincere, for that whole open process to take an easy route though. That's how it works for me anyway.
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capliberty
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What good is that answer without knowing the problem and question?
I just didn't understand why you said that questions are useless
I'm just relating this to my life, to me I have alot of unanswered questions, maybe in yours you need alot of more brainstorming of ideas,
you may value ideas more the answers to these ideas and at mine I value more of a plausable course more than having a choice of what course to take.
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spud
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BlueCoyote said: We can only question something from a context we know of. So, the real questions are still out there.
That's because context doesn't exist without consciousness. So, no, there are no "real" questions out there. Context and questioning are unique to life.
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Questions [Re: spud]
#5771161 - 06/20/06 02:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Everything is embedded in context and it doesn't interest, if there's consciousness or not. It matters if we get aware of the context.
The more we know, the better the questions become. So the best questions still are awaiting us.
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Triplexiosis
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What happens when you stop generating questions. Currently i'm at the point of observing, haven't found a good question in a long time. Feels very peacefull and calm, not dull in any way. Waiting for questions to arise...
"Most answers come easy when you develop your intuition. The insight just pours in or the intuitive guide leads you to a source of information that has an answer. I think the questions have to pop up of natural course and be sincere, for that whole open process to take an easy route though. That's how it works for me anyway."
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spud
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Objects are inanimate and lack this context you speak of. Also, questions are unique to consciousness and thus exist only among us. Which means, there are no questions outside what has already been questioned. New questions may arrive through intuitive or creative processes, but they are a result of man in conjunction with reality. They do not exist independently.
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Questions [Re: spud]
#5772201 - 06/20/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Objects must not be in a conscious context to exist. They exist in a physical, chemical and temporal context, for example.
No questions outside we have questioned ? Still, the more we know, the more questions arise.
It's a previously unknown context we can get aware of, or parts of if, what will directly feed back the context for our next questions.
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MystikMushroom
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Well, haha! I never IMAGINED anyone would elaborate on this topic so much. Sweetness.
I just feel the infinte-ness of reality; in both directions large and small. There will always be questions, and always answers...there is never a final question/answer for it all.
I feel very "freed" by this line of thought. It says to me,
"stop trying to figure it ALL out right NOW...focus on more attainable objectives first as a foundation. The larger questions and answers will come...and never stop coming either...for eternity"
Edited by MystikMushroom (06/20/06 04:31 PM)
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spud
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Put that way, I think we're both on the same page. Just using different wording in our premises.
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MystikMushroom
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Re: Questions [Re: spud]
#5773107 - 06/20/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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So...questions are great because they insire us to seek answers (and have memorable experiences along the way!!). . . Just knowing that there will never be an end to a quest for knowledge, and that I won't ever attain a state of "finality", because if I did, reality would end. . .
Whoever set this game up somehow looped it up like a mobius wheel, so it'll never end...and the person that did that never was even created in the first place either!
AHh...such is the paradox...it just dosen't make sense to linnerally-based-time-oriented creatures (even me most times) . . .
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Schwammel
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what happens if the question can't be asked correctly...
can there be an answer?
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MystikMushroom
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Thats like wondering if God could create a rock he could not lift...
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Schwammel
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I already used this before but;;;;
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. All the king's horses and all the king's men, Couldn't put Humpty back together again.
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