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genetic_mutant
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CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE)
#5765607 - 06/18/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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OK. I smoked weed every day for about 3 years. Decided enough was enough, quit for a whole year. Then after that I had my first shroom trip, then had 5 more trips within same year. then no drugs at all for another year.
OK. now I have started smoking very occasionally. and I literally trip my tits off, its like a very strong weird psychedelic drug. no chilling out having a spliff anymore. same weed as always tho.
When I smoke and look into my carpet and focus. I can see little elves (people)??? all moving in between the strands of carpet.They seem to be all working (I think perhaps carrying things)? If I stare long enough then I get a good glimpse of some of them up closer and then I hear them all CHEER!!! Then I loose concentration and have to start again. While looking into my carpet I also can see these hieroglyphics that look just alien to any symbol I could imagine. The walls are breathing, my cealing has weird morphing shapes all over it of some kind of beings. If I go out side the whole garden is alive, all the trees are moving. I stare into this bush and it turns into many weird shapes, like its trying to telepathically communicate or something and I mean these things move like crazy , well scary. In the nights sky UFO's are plentiful. I could go on, and on.
this is really getting to me, what could have possibly changed cannabis like this for me. my friend says since he started doing shrooms he finds bud a little bit stronger, but nothing like this. anyway I only did shrooms like 6 times. when I smoke weed now I panic and think that I've got full blown schizophrenia or something, visually i trip hard. when i come down i tell myself I'm never going to do weed again, but it just sucks as i miss all those days i could just chill out and have a smoke with my mates.
Has anyone else had anything like this or can give any advice?
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Possible flashbacks from the shrooms?
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: Psy Baba]
#5765741 - 06/18/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I smoke the ganja every day, and after tripping over 100 times on various hallucinogens(mostly chemical) I sometimes have very mild hallucinations while I'm stoned. It's usually one of the following things: I see someone who isn't there, smoke or ants trail out from cracks or walls, lights have tracers or become much brighter all of a sudden, or all noise turns into voices that coagulatively tell me something.
It doesn't really bother me, even though it happens every time I get moderately high or more. Although, I almost never have auditory hallucinations on hallucinogens, I do all the time when I'm really baked.
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nightkrawler
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if you become a regular smoker again that'll change. ever since i started tripping weed has become much trippier for me too, not the extent that it is for you because i haven't really taken a break from smoking for more than a few days. just start getting in the habit of smoking again and it'll be a lot mellower.
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: nightkrawler]
#5766490 - 06/19/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea i i used to smoke almost everyday day now i smoke like every month and when i do i trip out!
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BobDole
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Ur just lucky. If i were you I'd ride these highs you are getting for as long as you can. Its most likely just like when you take ecstacy and you smoke weed the next day and u start feeling like your rollin a little bit, same things probably happening to you with shrooms (i wish it would happen to me) . -Danked
Edited by BobDole (06/19/06 02:22 AM)
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Iamthewalrus
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ya I"m definitely one of the sensitive ones as well...I get visuals the day after trippin(tho nowhere near as intense)
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5766682 - 06/19/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I drive after smokin a bowl I hear sigrens often. For the longest time I would think I am getting pulled over or chased but then I got used to it and go fast and pretend I am outrunning them lol.
Edit and if I have done shrooms in the past weeks I get a mild shroom trip from weed.
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Edited by mikeownow (06/19/06 02:39 AM)
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sHrOoMeRrR420
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: mikeownow]
#5767580 - 06/19/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I definetly get the same effects as most of you smoking weed the day after a shroom trip. Brings back some light shroomin effects.
I once downed a glass of weed butter (yes, I know its very stupid) which was made from "crystal" that we sifted with a screen out of about 3 pounds of shake. Ended up putting like an oz. of low quality kief and downing it 3 ways.
Lets just say I felt like puking and pissing the entire time neither of which I could do. I was basically paralyzed to the couch and I had the craziest auditory hallucinations in my life which consisted of a reggae radio station (music I dont listen to but am constantly around) which played for at least an hour. The music was so real and the songs were just random songs that my head was making up but actually sounded harmonic and real like any song. Every song was seperated by some jamacian (radio station host) talking to people random gibberish and what not, sounded just like most radio stations you'd hear on the radio.I was almost convinced that the neighbor upstairs was playing music real loud (at 2 a.m.). Anyways my 2 buddies were doing coke (who also ate the butter, but not as much as me) and lets just say I've never seen a more paranoid person in my life.
When I would try and go to the washroom and piss I simply could not piss. I felt as if I had a full bladder but just wouldnt go. Everytime I went to try and piss I would hear voices basically moaking me as if I was thinking my friends knew what was happening and making fun of me or something.
Anyways I find if my mind makes up music on shrooms its usually techno-ish, lazer, beaming, sqeakish, high pitched noises, while on oral doses of weed its more realistic sounding music usually with a heavy beat, or bass to it. But really I guess it depends on what you listen to, what you have been listening to, what you like, and well just you.
Ya... a little off topic but whatever
Edited by sHrOoMeRrR420 (06/19/06 10:58 AM)
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Rhysaboveit
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Quote:
sHrOoMeRrR420 said: Everytime I went to try and piss I would hear voices basically mocking me as if I was thinking my friends knew what was happening and making fun of me or something.
That reminds me of the movie waiting.
Back on topic. Its happened to me a couple times ( not nearly as intense but i agree with someone above who said its probably because of your long period of disuse ). But its welcome and i enjoy it. Its just because your body isnt used to the good ol ganja anymore. Keep toking and things should level out.
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: Rhysaboveit]
#5775025 - 06/21/06 12:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cannabis is classified as a psychedelic, but most users don't describe its effects as such until they have experienced a potent psychedelic, like mushrooms. Most people I know that smoke and trip say that after dosing LSD, their bud seems a lot "trippier".
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You guys are making me want to go get a bag now.
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I understand what you go through, I smoked pot for a few years then got into psychedelics, quit smoking pot and now whenever i smoke it, its way too damn intense. So now i don't have any interest in pot.
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: Yayitsme]
#5775373 - 06/21/06 02:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have also experienced a change in cannabis high after first mushroom trips. I remember that the high felt more trippy and more intense than before. The effect seems to have diminished later on.. I don't get that same whoa. Maybe gotten used to it or too high tolerance or too long time since doing mushrooms.
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yo i'm pretty sure bud is kind of a catylist for mushrooms. i'm a smoker and i didn't trip until about 5 years of smoking. i like to eat about 1.3 grams of shrooms and smoke that much bud at the same time. if i don't smoke i don't see any visuals. i started doing this about the third time i tripped because i couldn't see anything. these substances have alot in common, screw a beer, gimme some fuzzy organism's dick to put down my throat!
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genetic_mutant
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Ok. I decided that I would try having another smoke on my own, somewhere outside my house. So last night i went down to this field by my house, found a nice little corner between some big trees and smoked a single skin spliff of weak bud, then after a while i was tripping hard. then things happened i never would have ever imagined.
(just for the record i have experience ego loss once on shrooms.)
this was nothing like shrooms. Now first of all I saw a fox man run through the field, i saw it plenty of times throughout the night. i went up to the big tree hugged it and looked up and FUCK!!! the power of the mind i cannot even start to explain the intensity of the universe looking up a tree. Makes me shudder thinking about it now. Then it really started kicking in, a UFO landed in the field, these slightly shorter classic alien types got off, and came towards me, they had ridged on their heads and little horns. so i fucking ran out of the fields back into the streets. walked slowly home under the street lamps, i was in another world everything was spirit all moving energy. it was like i was in a video game, just total reality gone! Then i saw them, fucking ghosts, dressed in old fashioned clothes, walking around , they didn't seem to notice me. then i came across these 5 hedges shaped oval bigger than me. i stopped to stare at them and one of them turned purple, grew feet and started to come at me. it was like on top of the normal reality of the hedge being green, still, solid, i was creating with my own mind whatever the hedge could be, it was like i could turn it into a person whatever. then i realised that i could just go into all of this a world of my own and never come back, like fully psychotic for ever. i was so positive that drugs show you that you can make your own realty, leave this one, go into another. and if i took any more drugs then i could do this sober, i would go MAD!. then a saw the fox man again, he looked like that egyptian dog god thing, but he was a fox (i live in UK (red fox)). everything had felt like this is how it was meant to be, that this is how all humans used to live and once you fully embrace it you never return, i was a scared animal, but the absolute terror caused me to wonder in astonishment. like i was a child again! i forced my self to focus on where i was going, got home, ran inside and sat down listened to some music, and forced myself to calm down.
eventually i did, stayed up all night thinking about it. went to bed
now since i smoked so very little, why the hell does this happen to me. does anyone have any experience with this on any drug, escpecially weed. with shrooms i don't get this , i definitely loose my ego. with weed now, your ego's intact you just enter another world.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?
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MasFina
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Wow, you are either trying real hard to make us believe that pot can do things to you that it seems to not be doing to anyone else, or you may be going nuts. I would talk to a therapist. Oh yeah, maybe it was laced with pcp.
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Edited by MasFina (06/23/06 03:01 AM)
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Iamthewalrus
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your either very unique or that weed had something on it
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5783025 - 06/23/06 05:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I miss that old school high. Don't get me wrong I love the high I get now, but back then it was so different. I remember I was unsure if I could drive home (striaght shot a couple blocks lol.) Now I can only parallel park if I'm high :-D
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OK I have posted these reports of my experiences to see if anyone was experiencing anything similar. I was not expecting a great deal from this post. However since i have had a few replies, i will give my personal story as simply as i can hoping someone can guide me to a solution and better understanding. (I know i'm asking a lot)
Facts. I am 20yrs old, live in UK, 6ft, Very Aryan looking. I have suffered from mental illness since i was a child. I have never been diagnosed with anything other than depression, never let a psychiatrists really in. I am an intellectual, even tho i did poorly at school. I have studied mental illness on my own and i have come to the conclusion that i am suffering from the labels ADHD,OCD, Tourettes syndrome (very annoying!), bipolar (rapid cycling) no mania, just hypomania occasionally, with mixed stated (worst) and Aspergers Syndrome. OK, my father I'm sure has mild ocd, mother mild adhd. I have 3 brothers all with mild adhd , ocd behaviour. Everyone in my family is intelligent and mentally healthy, except my granmother on fathers side who struggles. Now my Uncle on fathers side of family killed himself age 50, was an alcoholic all his life but still fairly capable.
Ok since i was 10 i have been suicidal but never tried to act on it. Spent my whole life , no friends, a real psycho, beat the shit out of any kid at school if they messed with me always a dangerous individual but never initiated anything always tried to be a good person, loving. I can always appear totally normal to people if i really want to, just its very hard to keep it up for long. When i was 16 i was put on antideppressent which made me suicidal tried to kill myself etc. Smoked weed CHRONIC!!! In bongs, 8/th a day for a year. Then i was put in hospital ect. The whole experience taught me pychiatrist are very dangerous people, pushing dangerous drugs. Then i smoked CHRONIC , 1 blunt a day for 2 years. All the time being looked after by my parents. Finally i started to get a bit better. Stopped smoking all tougher no drugs for 4months. Then became an alcoholic for a year. Then managed to control my drinking. ALL OF THIS STORY IS LIVING IN MY PARENTS HOUSE, NO FRIENDS, BEING AWAKE AT NIGHT, ALSEEP IN THE DAY, EXTREME ISOLATION REALLY. Aged 19, i bought some fresh SHROOMS from Internet (UK) before they were made illegal. I honestly tried them just out of experimentation. I ate on evening 4g dried (yangoon) cubies, first ever time. IT LITERALLY BLEW MY MIND, EGO LOSS IN A SHORT TIME, HIT ME SO FAST THE THOUGHT OF FIGHTING IT NEVER EVEN OCCURRED. I WAS MY MUM, BROTHER, EARTH, ETC SINGLE POINT OF EXISTENCE. When i came down i knew that i had to make a change, i have made some really positive changes in my life since. And am fighting on. After this experience i did shrooms does 2g x2, 1gx4 only 6 times in the same year spaced out, everytime it was a very nasty experience. I was just having bad trip, and i realised i was only doing it to make myself feel bad, so after i would appreciate life a little better. So i gave it up as life is hard enough anyway and i was out of shrooms anyway cus i brought them, haven't ever grown them. Now since then i didn't do any drugs for a couple of months, very hard. And ever since then i have been furiously exploring consciousness 24/7, read all the literature (found Mckenna to be the Most helpful!) up all night sleep all day, no job just pure obsession which is how I've always been anyway, not unusal for me. And i got hold of some weed after my 20th birthday and had a smoke and then it all began. Weed was from that moment suddenly not something that just got me high and was an escape. But totally psychedelic, more visual than shrooms in dose range by far. So I have been experimenting with it since. Now my whole life up to using shrooms was about using drugs to escape my reality because it was a nightmare. Since the shrooms i have been instead exploring it, in a totally solitary way, and longer suicidal. Now with small amounts of real basic weed (Nothing in it!) I can do many things like i mentioned above when I'm sober i can only slightly get the visuals going, no comparison. I have realised no shit, that i can i mean can leave my body and go anywhere if i want to. But far to fucking terrified. I seem to have built my conscious awareness up to such a level life is getting to that looney bin level. But as i have been doing it, this fear of loss of control has been making me take positive steps further to try to get back into society because the one i am creating is so terrifying in its intensity of awareness (can't even look up at the blue sky in the day its just so fucked up, universe) that its forcing me to want to join in with everyone else even tho I'm not sure how because I've never been able to do it since i was a child. And be normal. I mean seeing through time, spirits , ghosts, ufo all just a single skin away. I mean if i actually pursue this more I KNOW I WILL POSSIBLE GO INSANE, but i am totally SANE at the same time. Is it that I'm actually sane and I'm just seeing what others don't. Do we make up our reality completely as individuals , and this is mine. I am convinced that the reality that everyone is living in. we can all leave it if we just realize that we can, we can just walk through the door into spirit, and come back if we decide to at a future time. But once you step through and your in, then forever you will know that you can just step in. There will be no need for any drugs, it will be possible on the hatch. Our entire security, ideas etc of what reality is will be obliterated.
My brother, someone that actually does visit me, likes a toke now and then and i put these ideas across to him and he found it a little far fetched he's never done anything but pot, beer. And i showed him some of my techniques while stoned and he started seeing some of these things and freaked out. I think i put him of weed for good. Which made me feel bad. All i do is bring burden to everyone anyway all my life.
Anyway if there is anyone who can help me at all i would be extremely thankful, as you could imagine. I am not some weirdo in the sense people look upon people who talk of these things. If i had to say what has separated me from society and caused the biggest burden on my life i would have to say it was my deep awareness of things, since i was a child, that and my obsession over all else for the truth.
Sometimes I just burst into tears as the love building up in me, becomes too much. My selfishness is intense.
I apologise for the long post, if you have read this far. THANKYOU
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All magickal plants deserve for respect. Respect Ganjah and she will reward you. Marijuana is quite potent psychedelic if used properly.
Yes, I smoke almost everyday but when I have a week-long brake it's enough for me to start mildly tripping on pot.
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Iamthewalrus
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look into cognitive behavoural therapy...a lot of what u describe is exactly how my mind works(only I don't get extreme trips from weed)
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MasFina
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Sorry for accusing you of lying. First of all, what are your techniques for seeing things? That sounds cool. Also, I would say that you are an individual that is highly sensitized to the world and has a wider range of conciousness than most. This is good, but it does make you quite different. I think that for you to avoid going insane you should take up meditation in a big way. It will help you have greater control over your body and mind. I am kinda like you only scaled down quite a bit. I am an introvert and stay up all night. Don't have a lot of friends, but that's cuz I don't care to spend time with others very often. I think I have some oversensitization to the world too. Meditation is helping me to stay centered and operate from a calmness within myself instead of being blown around by my exagerated perceptions. I would also advise that you talk to someone who can tell you more about this, but not anyone who will just give you a label (as you are doing to yourself) or prescribe you meds. A highly accomplished buddhist monk perhaps(although they wouldn't say they've accomplished anything). This is my advice to you my friend.
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: MasFina]
#5783570 - 06/23/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Meditation is helping me to stay centered and operate from a calmness within myself instead of being blown around by my exagerated perceptions."
this is exactly what anxiety does to some ppl it causes exaggerated perceptions of danger
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sHrOoMeRrR420
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Re: CANNABIS (VERY SENSITIVE) [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5793041 - 06/26/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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^^ yes.. good info walrus.. anxiety can definetly fuck with your head enough to alter your perceptions..
..this sounds pretty intense, first thing that also came to my mind was pcp
but seriously I beleive the mushrooms triggered it to begin with and smoking is just going to make it worse (or prolong it). Are you somewhat normal when your sober? I mean I suffer from anxiety and smoking just makes it worse.
If I were you I'd lay off every drug (even meds) for as long as it takes for you to feel better. If you need the meds fine but dont smoke weed if its driving you on the border of insanity.. look at how many people on this site are taking meds for various reasons. Now how many of those people are being driven on the border of insanity using mushrooms and other psychedelics?
Thats just my 2 cents.. sorry if I said something stupid Im typing this in a real rush ;O
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