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agoutihead


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how are people even able to make acid anymore????
#5764640 - 06/18/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i mean... if the chemicals needed to create lsd as just as regulated as lsd.... then how can someone aquire it to make it nowadays?
does it "just fall off the back of a truck" type deal... or is there a way to make the chemical needed to make lsd?
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Mr_Brown
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: agoutihead]
#5764692 - 06/18/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well I know for a fact my brother could make it. He has a PhD in organic chemistry and has access to almost any chemical you can think of( he works for a pharm company called Gilead). Im sure he could do its just a question of talking him into it which I have yet to do. So basically people like that etc etc etc.
Edited by Mr_Brown (06/18/06 03:07 PM)
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: agoutihead]
#5764694 - 06/18/06 03:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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the base of acid is a rye fungus(ergot?)(i think)that grows natural or can possibly be cultivated then from there be synthesized into LSD. the chems needed to synthesize could probably be bought out of country
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SickShroomer
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: beavis190]
#5764706 - 06/18/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree. You can easily get what ever you need from out of country places. There are a few sites i know of that you can talk to ppl about these things. I've gotten presciption pills off of India hookups. I'm sure that you can find anything if you just know a dif. language or else have systran.
There is still LSD in my area, but i live near a large college. So there is a way to get the reqs. Just a matter of how to sythesize it from ergot. You would need some one at least knowledgeable about organic chemistry to even follow the directions. (Or else some college reference books)
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darkstar45
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: SickShroomer]
#5766381 - 06/19/06 12:53 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i hear chemists often acquire precursors in foriegn countries that dont restrict the chemicals.
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DontFearThePeepr


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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: darkstar45]
#5766439 - 06/19/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can purchase the ingredients in the US, they just keep an eye on the very large orders (they might even do this out of the country as well). I remember looking up sites where you can order ergotamine tartrate (the chief ingredient), and I remember reading somewhere that companies put a red flag on the order after a certain amount.
I agree with SickShroomer that there are probably some chemists around now that still synthesize it themselves, but I'd bet the operations are pretty low key considering the consequences.
Although, I'm pretty sure a lot of acid nowadays comes from out of the country, where the punishments are less strict than in the US.
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agoutihead


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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
#5768034 - 06/19/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i figure anyone can get their hands on anything for the right price.... but dont you guys think the chemicals needed to make lsd are just as regulated throughout the world as they are in the US?
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: agoutihead]
#5768044 - 06/19/06 01:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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doubt it
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Ginseng1
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5768082 - 06/19/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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fuck the US
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va_shroomer
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: Ginseng1]
#5768150 - 06/19/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cue chinacat.
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Asante
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: agoutihead]
#5768318 - 06/19/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
but dont you guys think the chemicals needed to make lsd are just as regulated throughout the world as they are in the US?
Nope. In eastern europe and russia, to name some nations, control is far less rigid. In the third world control is virtually nonexistent.
Here in the first world you're getting a stare if you look like a hippy and want to buy aspirin, but in lets say in Cambodia when you come to a rural district pharmacy and act like you know your shit, while behind you a bleating goat is restrained by a farmer who needs a worm pill, the pharmacist will probably dispense the few grams you request if he has them on stock or otherwise order it for you.
There are nations where morphine pills are sold in pharmacies without a prescription. Where blocks of opium lie next to hand grenades on the local market. Would these people care about a migraine drug that might be used in a hightech lab as a precursor to a drug that isnt even used locally?
Then there is the Congo. A land without a government, basically. You canb set up camp there, establish a "pharmaceutical company" and import whatever you like without anyone with the AUTHORITY to ask questions.
China is well-regulated. That doesnt stop Chinese companies from shipping ecstasy precursors to Dutch drug labs.
Let me rephrase that: to ship pallets of 55-gallon drums full of Piperonyl-Methyl-Ketone (as suspect as a precursor can be) to Rotterdam harbour.
The world is a big place. If we try to score a one-ounce bottle of sassafras oil for ecstacy manufacture, we get dragged in front of a judge. If a Chinese salesman of a big Co. manages to sell 1.000 liters of PMK under fishy circumstances, he gets a raise and if he pulls it off a promotion
The world is so much bigger than the USGov't vs. Citizens game. The proof for this are the tonnage quantities of drugs pouring out of many countries, and, bitterly, the nuke or two that will probably soon fall into non-government hands.
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va_shroomer
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: Asante]
#5768341 - 06/19/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very well-said wiccan. At the same time, I think most American acid is made in America; I mean, isn't that what the Family's about? Well, maybe they just distribute it now-a-days, idk much about 'em, but they used to make it at least, judging by some of chinacat's stories.
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Asante
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: va_shroomer]
#5768395 - 06/19/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Remember that Chinacat (bless him) only has had hands on knowledge of a small part of the scene.
Not a psychedelic, but just so you get the idea:
A chemist was going to get fired from a big company. Being previously oblivious to anything he decided to start on his next career right away.
From the Controlled Substances list he got the chemical name of a fentanyl analog, and in a chemistry rollercoaster much wilder than LSD he designed the synthetic pasthway from scratch and cooked up an ounce or so (millions of doses) in the bosses' lab.
Having no connections and being naive was his undoing because he decided to offer the janitor to become a druglord (and he HAD the drug!) under the assumption that "all black people are connected to the drug underworld".
The janitor fried him, and the chemist is in jail now, otherwise we'd never heard of this remarkable story.
Moral of the story: Drugs like LSD can come out of NOWHERE, by people independently deciding they're going to make it, and living up to that dream.
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d-Lysergic acid diethylamide 50-250 micrograms. Psychedelic.
This small snippet of information is all a genius chemist really needs, the rest of the blanks can be filled in by the available literature and the coils of his mind.
A friend of mine told me that in India many years ago when he did a domestic cityhop, there were baskets of chickens and a goat on the airplane  It's a big world out there guys!
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Edited by Asante (06/19/06 03:10 PM)
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undersativaskies
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: Asante]
#5768445 - 06/19/06 03:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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My dads cousin was arrested 10 years ago assisting in the making of acid. He just got out of prison. Is it worth the risk? I dont think so but if your smart enough go for it.
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va_shroomer
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: undersativaskies]
#5769029 - 06/19/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey, another charlottesville person 
If there weren't people willing to take the risk for the greater good, there'd be NO acid would there? (and it's already scarce enough)
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undersativaskies
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: va_shroomer]
#5769095 - 06/19/06 06:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well i dont live in cville. I live in fluco ville. Nice to see people from my area though. Have you gone hunting yet? Ive got a couple real good cearupile spots. You should take a look around the area.
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va_shroomer
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: undersativaskies]
#5769131 - 06/19/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Going hunting tomorrow with another member =D He knows a spot to get caerulipses, and it's rained a bit today.
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undersativaskies
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: va_shroomer]
#5769642 - 06/19/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmmm mustard man?? I inspired him to go looking for em.
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va_shroomer
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: undersativaskies]
#5769706 - 06/19/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You guessed it. Apparently they're quite potent. And even if we don't find any it's always fun wandering around stoned like that :P
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Yayitsme
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: va_shroomer]
#5770126 - 06/19/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey, im not too far from yall, i live in southside va, I've gone to c-ville quite a few times tho. Have yall ever been to the skatepark there?
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va_shroomer
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: Yayitsme]
#5770143 - 06/19/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, when I was a little kid (8 or 9 I think) I'd go there a lot to try tricks on my bike, but I haven't been there in a while. Ever since they got strict with the helmets/kneepads/elbowpads . . .
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undersativaskies
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: va_shroomer]
#5772019 - 06/20/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah there really potent. I used to skate there a lot back in the day. we should make a virginia thread.
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twiggedoubt
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: undersativaskies]
#5776994 - 06/21/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I remeber reading about that jackass chemist on bluelight several years ago. What an idiot. I don't know what year this happened, but I am going to have to think that it happened before the internet, probally even before usergroups even. If it was as recent as the 90's then this guy was just socially retarded, and I wish I would have been able to meet him. Probally for the better than he didn't end up selling shit cause he obviously didn't know how to cut it, neither would most people that are used to cutting dope, you really need a special machine to properly cut fentanyl and its analogues.
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johnypotsmoker
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Re: how are people even able to make acid anymore???? [Re: twiggedoubt]
#5777154 - 06/21/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dude Robotrip thats shit is intense.
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