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What is your spiritual reality?
#5763596 - 06/18/06 08:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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We all have a philosophy to share (POV). We all seem to be pretty sure about what we know to one degree or another. So how do you know if your perspective is on solid ground?
Look at your day to day life. That will tell you in no uncertain terms exactly what you believe and where you are truly at. If what you know and tell doesn't match your day to day experience then I would suggest taking another look at the stories you are telling yourself and open yourself to other perspectives. You might have to face the fact that you are full of shit.
You may not be alive tomorrow so what you have today is all there is.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Icelander]
#5763760 - 06/18/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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a critic?
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: redgreenvines]
#5763810 - 06/18/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why be critical?
Be realistic instead. Accept what is and work with it.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Icelander]
#5764355 - 06/18/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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The very fabric of existance itself, beyond the dichotomy of void vs. form. Experience is as it is. I strive continuously to be mindful, not of anything in particular, just that which arises, dwells, and decays within the field of direct experience.
I dont like to attach significance to any state of mind, as those, like the cells in our body, come and go without actually changing who and what we are. Sometimes I get stuck in a particular feeling tone, where I end up going about my daily activities with a particular bias of like/dislike. But I tend to recognize quickly, and re-initiate my practice of mindfulness.
I am happy just to be alive. The very fact of living in itself, experiencing in itself, being in itself, gives me goosebumps when I think just how cool it is that there is a tree, or a leaf or the fact that I can see the sky and know it is blue.
Ahhhh.... Look at your hand... Beautiful isnt it? 
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Icelander]
#5764380 - 06/18/06 01:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I believe first and foremost in compassion and forgiveness. I may not always be able to resist momentary anger, but I am always able to forgive those who have trespassed against me, as well as forgiving myself for my own trespasses. I believe that what is right and virtuous is almost inseparable from what is compassionate. My spiritual reality is the constant struggle to love my enemy, and let my anger be replaced with compassion and wisdom.
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Quoiyaien]
#5764464 - 06/18/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am happy just to be alive. The very fact of living in itself, experiencing in itself, being in itself, gives me goosebumps when I think just how cool it is that there is a tree, or a leaf or the fact that I can see the sky and know it is blue.
In the Zone.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Silversoul]
#5764481 - 06/18/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good stuff. And true. In the end I always find that acceptance of myself and others wins the day. I can be angry but it's just the mirror of some past hurt or a personal trait I dislike. When I find the way to relax and accept those things then forgivness and compassion is home once again.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Icelander]
#5764578 - 06/18/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icelander said: So how do you know if your perspective is on solid ground?
I've given up trying to stand on that elusive "solid ground." Perspectives that are helpful in some sense get to stay, perspectives that are not helpful get thrown out.
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"""The very fact of living in itself, experiencing in itself, being in itself, gives me goosebumps when I think just how cool it is that there is a tree, or a leaf or the fact that I can see the sky and know it is blue. """
but, is it really blue?
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Quote:
MushmanTheManic said:
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Icelander said: So how do you know if your perspective is on solid ground?
I've given up trying to stand on that elusive "solid ground." Perspectives that are helpful in some sense get to stay, perspectives that are not helpful get thrown out.
That's about as solid as it gets IMO.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Schwammel]
#5764717 - 06/18/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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blue today red tomorrow,,, things change...imagine being a strung out hooker and a psychopath on death row? waht makes you different?
Alle Menschen werden Brüder
i like your post very much, but i like it even more after reading mine!
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Icelander]
#5764721 - 06/18/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i think my presonal world is a big fucking fantasy i could never accomplish and the fact is that my everyday reality is so far from my ideals/spiretuality it's ridicules and frustrating!
the thing is we have too much information to deal with! according to everything i know my life should be radically diffrent but the fact is that knoledge is not enough, same is with spirituality i think... it's not enough to belive "i am my own god" i need to actualy practice that belife in my everyday life but that means making lots of hard to do changes in my self and around my self!
reality is what we make of it... but once we try to comunicate that it changes in the light of another prespective (and often ends up not making much sense at all)
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Simisu]
#5764762 - 06/18/06 03:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I took some shrooms last night, watched underworld evolution, what I learned is this, people are vastly different but as different as they are they are going through the same stages of spiritual evolution, I say I'm unimpressed by what I see, the models that have been handed down that help us define who we are is kind of disheartening, I really don't see much substance even in the most balanced individual, theres got to be a better attempt or even a better way to define who we are, if all I am is collection of thought patterns that follow morale code, then I've expired my life time, I don't know I guess I'm relating my prospective to the overall, but the shrooms have good way of showing the unbiased overall stages of life.
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Simisu]
#5764768 - 06/18/06 03:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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""The very fabric of existance itself, beyond the dichotomy of void vs. form. ""
"""it's not enough to belive "i am my own god" i need to actualy practice that belife in my everyday life but that means making lots of hard to do changes in my self and around my self!"""
is a constant struggle...
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Schwammel]
#5764811 - 06/18/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Schwammel said: """The very fact of living in itself, experiencing in itself, being in itself, gives me goosebumps when I think just how cool it is that there is a tree, or a leaf or the fact that I can see the sky and know it is blue. """
but, is it really blue?
Actually it clouded over, now it is kind of grey, with yellow outlines around where the sun pokes through 
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Re: What is your spiritual reality? [Re: Quoiyaien]
#5764846 - 06/18/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Judging others from within the boundaries of your own opinions, how could you be anything other than wrong?
-Dogen zenji, 1200 - 1253"""
i don't, never did... i think i was born that way...
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