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Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Pastor
#5763231 - 06/18/06 03:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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After a 12-year-old girl in Elgin, Ill., told her mother that she had been molested by an older man, the woman took her daughter to see Daryl Bujak, the pastor of the First Missionary Baptist Church. The minister, the unnamed mother says, said the girl was lying and tried to get the girl to recant by beating her buttocks with a three- foot wooden stick, the mother says. The girl's beatings continued for several months until the mother finally decided she must be telling the truth and went to police. Investigators say DNA evidence proves the girl's allegations. Bujak has been charged with battery; Matthew E. Resh, 33, the alleged perpetrator, was charged with five counts of predatory criminal sexual assault. The mother says she went along with the beatings because Bujak was a "man of faith" and a former police officer. Bujak, who is still being backed by church members, wrote on the church's web site that the Bible is "pure, perfect, inerrant and infallible."
Chicago Tribune, Elgin Courier News
Edit: pastor, not priest
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Diploid]
#5763239 - 06/18/06 04:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: After a 12-year-old girl in Elgin, Ill., told her mother that she had been molested by an older man, the woman took her daughter to see Daryl Bujak, the pastor of the First Missionary Baptist Church. The minister, the unnamed mother says, said the girl was lying and tried to get the girl to recant by beating her buttocks with a three- foot wooden stick, the mother says. The girl's beatings continued for several months until the mother finally decided she must be telling the truth and went to police. Investigators say DNA evidence proves the girl's allegations. Bujak has been charged with battery; Matthew E. Resh, 33, the alleged perpetrator, was charged with five counts of predatory criminal sexual assault. The mother says she went along with the beatings because Bujak was a "man of faith" and a former police officer. Bujak, who is still being backed by church members, wrote on the church's web site that the Bible is "pure, perfect, inerrant and infallible."
Chicago Tribune, Elgin Courier News
And people wonder why i hate the church.. This is the exact reason..
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: MrSinister]
#5763259 - 06/18/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You've been hating the church for something that just happened?
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5763297 - 06/18/06 04:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, Like myself he dislikes christianity because it has a long track record of such behaviour.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#5763298 - 06/18/06 04:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You've been hating the church for something that just happened?
This kind of shit, has been going on, for as long as there were churches and preachers.
Fuck church, and all the mindless drones that attend it.
I say we have a church burning on every Sunday, when they are full of sheep, untill there are no more churches and/or sheep to fill them.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: niteowl]
#5763299 - 06/18/06 04:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good policy.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Hanky]
#5763308 - 06/18/06 05:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you.
When should we start. Today is Sunday
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: niteowl]
#5763309 - 06/18/06 05:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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We only need to work sundays, we'll get shirts that read "think free or burn".
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Diploid]
#5763311 - 06/18/06 05:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm disappointed the only penalties were for the priests. The mother should be sterilized and her daughter placed with a relative. Shit like this makes me sick.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Hanky]
#5763317 - 06/18/06 05:18 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The problem with Christianity is all that abstinence and other limiting moral codes. It makes people do freaky stuff. Another problem is that all the Christian 'rules' are bullshit anyway. That mother was a stupid bitch too. She let her daughter be beaten for several months? How about asking a second opinion from another priest and getting you head out of you ass.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: cybrbeast]
#5763319 - 06/18/06 05:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thats the problem with sheep.........they don't think
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Ythan]
#5763451 - 06/18/06 06:50 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ythan said: I'm disappointed the only penalties were for the priests. The mother should be sterilized and her daughter placed with a relative. Shit like this makes me sick.
seriously, that woman needs a few whacks to the face with a three foot pole
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Diploid]
#5763478 - 06/18/06 07:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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4% of priest serving over last 50 years are accused of sex abuse with a minor.
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WASHINGTON (CNS) -- About 4 percent of U.S. priests ministering from 1950 to 2002 were accused of sex abuse with a minor, according to the first comprehensive national study of the issue.
The study said that 4,392 clergymen—almost all priests—were accused of abusing 10,667 people, with 75 percent of the incidents taking place between 1960 and 1984.
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An overwhelming majority of the victims, 81 percent, were males. The most vulnerable were boys aged 11 to 14, representing more than 40 percent of the victims.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Annom]
#5763490 - 06/18/06 07:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmmm... I wonder what percentage of the general population has been accused of this.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: cybrbeast]
#5763501 - 06/18/06 07:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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From Wikipedia:
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The extent to which pedophilia occurs is not known with any certainty. Some studies have concluded that at least a quarter of all adult men may have some feelings of sexual arousal in connection with children. A study by Hall et al. of Kent State University, for example, found that 32.5% of their sample — consisting of eighty adult males — exhibited sexual arousal to heterosexual pedophilic stimuli that equaled or exceeded their arousal to the adult stimuli. Further studies indicate that even men erotically fixated on adult females are generally prone to react sexually when exposed to nude female children.
In 1989 Briere and Runtz conducted a study on 193 male undergraduate students concerning pedophilia. Of the sample, 21% acknowledged sexual attraction to some small children; 9% reported sexual fantasies involving children; 5% admitted masturbating to these fantasies; and 7% conceded some probability of actually having sex with a child if they could avoid detection and punishment.
Feierman (1990) predicted that 7-10% of men are sexually attracted to prepubescent boys.
Of course pedophilia is always wrong, but with priests it's the blatant hypocracy which takes things to a whole new level for me. And in this case I think the mother's as much at fault as the flagellator or the child-fucker.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: dr_gonz]
#5763574 - 06/18/06 08:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are plenty of better reasons to dislike Christianity.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: dr_gonz]
#5763597 - 06/18/06 08:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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dr_gonz said:
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Hanky said: No, Like myself he dislikes christianity because it has a long track record of such behaviour.
the same can be said for atheism
it's all pretty pointless
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: cybrbeast]
#5763598 - 06/18/06 08:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: The problem with Christianity is all that abstinence and other limiting moral codes. It makes people do freaky stuff.
Well, first of all, I'd like to point out that the thread title is misleading, as the article clearly indicates that it was not a Catholic priest, but rather a Protestant minister who did this. I point this out because Protestant ministers do not have to be celibate the way Catholic priests do. They can marry and have sex just like anyone else. From what I've heard, a minister is just as likely to be a pedophile as a priest. If you really want to know why it's such a problem in churches, the answer lies not in the religion itself, but in the position of authority they have. A priest or minister is trusted by the community, to the point that they will trust them alone with their kids. This is a perfect opportunity for a pedophile to gain a foothold.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Diploid]
#5763632 - 06/18/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm fairly convinced that a good portion of the world's problems are caused by Christians.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: niteowl]
#5763703 - 06/18/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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niteowl said: You've been hating the church for something that just happened? This kind of shit, has been going on, for as long as there were churches and preachers.
yeah, blame it on the church when it's the corruption and stupidity of a few people, surely every child abuser, molester, murderer and rapist isnt the church but I guess since you have to have something to hate, the church should be the target, not the fucked up individuals that commit these acts
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Silversoul]
#5763714 - 06/18/06 09:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good point Silversoul, read over the fact it was a protestant.
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I le magnifique said: the same can be said for atheism
it's all pretty pointless
No I don't think the same can be said of atheism. Atheism is based on fact and evidence, no evidence of a god therefor no reason for religion.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Silversoul]
#5763719 - 06/18/06 09:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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that the thread title is misleading
Corrected.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: cybrbeast]
#5763729 - 06/18/06 09:36 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: Good point Silversoul, read over the fact it was a protestant.
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I le magnifique said: the same can be said for atheism
it's all pretty pointless
No I don't think the same can be said of atheism. Atheism is based on fact and evidence, no evidence of a god therefor no reason for religion.
athiesm is based on belief just as christianity is, just because god hasnt worked a miracle or spoken with an athiest doesnt mean a a god does or does not exists, theres plenty of 'evidence' that could lead us to believe he does but an athiest choses to ignore that evidence or believe it's false. athiesm is a system of faith just as christianty is.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5763740 - 06/18/06 09:42 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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christianity is based on belief just as Noodlanity is, just because the Flying Spagheti Monster hasnt worked a miracle or spoken with a christian mean the FSM does or does not exists, theres plenty of 'evidence' that could lead us to believe His Noodlyness does but a christian choses to ignore that evidence or believe it's false. christianity is a system of faith just as Noodlanity is.
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5763742 - 06/18/06 09:43 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: Good point Silversoul, read over the fact it was a protestant.
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I le magnifique said: the same can be said for atheism
it's all pretty pointless
No I don't think the same can be said of atheism. Atheism is based on fact and evidence, no evidence of a god therefor no reason for religion.
athiesm is based on belief just as christianity is, just because god hasnt worked a miracle or spoken with an athiest doesnt mean a a god does or does not exists, theres plenty of 'evidence' that could lead us to believe he does but an athiest choses to ignore that evidence or believe it's false. athiesm is a system of faith just as christianty is.
There is no scientific evidence that god exists. The other subjective 'evidence' can't be called evidence IMO.
It's up to Christians to prove that God exists. There is no need for atheists to prove it's absence. When there is proof that God exists an atheist will accept it because then there is no need for faith anymore. Faith is illogical.
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Edited by cybrbeast (06/18/06 09:48 AM)
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Diploid]
#5763747 - 06/18/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Woohoo FSM represent
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: cybrbeast]
#5763778 - 06/18/06 09:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: It's up to Christians to prove that God exists. There is no need for atheists to prove it's absence. When there is proof that God exists an atheist will accept it because then there is no need for faith anymore. Faith is illogical.
I'm not saying that anyone should prove gods existance, simply that atheism is just another belief system, it's not based on fact as the athiest hasnt gone out and looked for proof or evidence to determine if he really does, instead the athiest has taken the view of I see no proof before my eye therefore he does not exist. and your right, faith is illogical but it in it's self has done quite a bit with or without gods help
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Diploid]
#5763784 - 06/18/06 09:55 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Diploid said: christianity is based on belief just as Noodlanity is
I would never disagree, the FSM is as real as every other god
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5763801 - 06/18/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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is just another belief system
Atheism is just the opposite. It's a suspension of belief until and if evidence is presented.
If I tell you I own the Brooklyn Bridge but can't produce the deed, is your disbelief a belief system?
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Diploid]
#5763828 - 06/18/06 10:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Atheism is just the opposite. It's a suspension of belief until and if evidence is presented.
it's a method of articulation and nothing more, an atheist believes that god does not exist because no evidence has been shown to prove otherwise.
it's a belief system
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5763836 - 06/18/06 10:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Answer my question:
If I tell you I own the Brooklyn Bridge but can't produce the deed, is your disbelief a belief system?
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Diploid]
#5763848 - 06/18/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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it would be a belief that you would lie about it
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5763940 - 06/18/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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God fucks little boys. That's all that needs to be said.
You want to know why he's allowing a war in Iraq? It's so he can turn our heads away from his boyfucking.
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Penguarky Tunguin said: God fucks little boys. That's all that needs to be said.
proof enough of his existance, now the atheists can believe in 'him' instead of believing in 'not him'
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Prisoner#1]
#5763969 - 06/18/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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What about the agnostics?
It's impossible to know for sure whether or not it's God fucking the little boys or is it just the insane priests?
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Penguarky Tunguin said: What about the agnostics?
god is unsure of their existance but believes they could be real
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Hanky]
#5764000 - 06/18/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hanky said: No, Like myself he dislikes christianity because it has a long track record of such behaviour.
I like the way the word "behaviour" is spelled.. kind of rhymes with "Savior".
Hey psst, Hanky...
Got Saviour?
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Re: Twelve Year Old Girl Beat Up By Priest [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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