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OfflineSnaggletooth
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The Fog Of War
    #5762756 - 06/18/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)




Well this was on tonight, I have seen it a few times, and have been meaning to get it.

Has anyone seen it, and if so what did you think.

There was so much, that I at least did not know,

And I have a new hero, not McNamara though I have the deepest respect for him.

It was Curtis LeMay. Patton was my favorite, but I have to rethink that. What a fucking bad ass, now he got the job done.

Anyway what did you think of the Documentary or about the man.


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Re: The Fog Of War [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5762757 - 06/18/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you should make a better topic


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Re: The Fog Of War [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5762769 - 06/18/06 12:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I saw the movie in the theater when it first came out. I thought it was a brilliant film. It has so many parallels with the current situation in Iraq, which is interesting, because it was filmed back in May of 2001.


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Re: The Fog Of War [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5767000 - 06/19/06 07:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I thought this was an excellent documentary. I've watched it 8 or 10 times on DVD and I watched it on the History Channel over the weekend. McNamara would be my hero not LeMay but I see what you mean. The one historian, Dunn, said that McNamara was a tragic figure and I would agree. Here you have a super intelligent man who leaves Ford Motors to serve President Kennedy and he's on top of the world, he'd already had a tremendous impact on the end of the war with Japan and the automotive industry. Under Kennedy he admits that their strategy lead inadvertently to the murder of the South Vietnamese president, Kennedy is killed weeks later and he's stuck with Johnson who wants to escalate the war. McNamara can see by the numbers that the war is going badly and we should scale back and get out but the president and the joint chiefs get in deeper and disregard McNamara. He took more criticism than he deserved, IMO he was a great man who did his level best through some of the roughest periods in American history.


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Re: The Fog Of War [Re: Silversoul]
    #5767019 - 06/19/06 07:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I saw the movie in the theater when it first came out. I thought it was a brilliant film. It has so many parallels with the current situation in Iraq, which is interesting, because it was filmed back in May of 2001.




I didn't know that this was filmed prior to 9/11 until I watched this on the History Channel. McNamara's comments on the mistake of the US acting unilaterally seemed a response to the war in Iraq but the fact that he said this well before seems almost spooky. If Bush had the wisdom of McNamara we would be much better off.


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