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Liberty cap info request
    #5762591 - 06/18/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ive already done a lot of research but i was hoping to speak directly to someone who has hands-on experience finding semilanceata or strictipes.
Im curious about whether id do better looking in landscaped lawns like golf courses or looking in long-grassed paddocks graised by cattle?
Im also curious about how much rain is normally required for these guys to pop in other countries and the average temps (min and max for the day) that would be ideal for these mushrooms.
thanks for the info!


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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5762800 - 06/18/06 01:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

two days after a night of heavy rain I went walking about my neighborhood. There is a small grassy park type thing near by, and I decided to check the spot out along with neighbors lawns for Pan. subbs. When I got to the park, the grass had not been cut, and was pretty overgrown and little mushrooms were popping out of the grass everywhere in little patches. maybe 10 different species in all- mycenas, Panaeolus, coprinus, conocybes- lots... I picked some of the colourful mushrooms and the Pans, and along with the suspected subbs, there were these odd looking what I thought to be Panaeolus species with egg shaped caps which hardly exposed their gills whatsoever. After a little research I found out that they were not Pans as I thought, they were Psilocybe semilanceata.

Golf courses tend to cut their lawns frequently, and also ask non-golfers to stay off the grass... It didn't look like anything was growing there anyway. I've had most my luck with longer grass that has not been cut in a while- cow pastures might be a good place, but I do not know.
As I described, it has rained once two days previous, at night, and stayed over cast for about 4 days after the rains. Temps during the day were prob mid 70's and mid to high 60's at night.

I did not find many of these liberty caps though, I found a few hundred subbs, but only 11 lib caps.


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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: CureCat]
    #5763176 - 06/18/06 03:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

few hundred is quite a haul. lucky you.  I have found NOTHING :laugh:.


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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: Psy Baba]
    #5763201 - 06/18/06 03:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They grow naturally around here :smile: paddocks are good to find them in, although I've found more on dead trees and such areas.

Ideally you need to look in a moist swamp/bog like areas of a forest.

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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: Psy Baba]
    #5763208 - 06/18/06 03:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

bluemeanie: ime, you will do better in lowlaying pasteures containing sedges, meadows with midgrasses [esp where deer bed], ect. i have yet to have much luck with semilanceata on manicured lawns of any type.

[edit: or whatever ruminant grazing animals you have there]


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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5763221 - 06/18/06 03:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Liberty caps sometimes show up on lawns in parks where fertilizers bring in the spores.

Their main habitat is tall rank grass. The taller the grass the longer the stems. When lawns are mowed flat like golf courses, the lib caps generally only grow to a eight of a few imches.

In Australia they are in the paddocks at he stations,

In Seattle in A 30 year period, I have only picked them on a lawn at a few locations. They once grew ont her woodlawn park in the Seattle arboretum for three years after it was fertilized m with manure from the Meadowgold farm out past Woodinville. Several lawns in Sou8thcenter in Tuk willa had them on Boeing office lawns for several yuears. Buit they are common in Pasturlands nevr growing directly from manure.
Even Redmonf Park the shrooms were common.
They are the best of the mushrooms.


Blue meanie, if you really want to learn a bit about the liberty cap phenomena, read the Oregon news items posted at:

http://www.mushroomjohn.com/news.htm

I think you will enjoy the info.
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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: mjshroomer] * 1
    #5763253 - 06/18/06 04:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

from my experience picking in the UK ...look in the autumn after at least two weeks of heavy rain but before hard frost - so cool but not freezing cold

find some relatively high up pastures - the drier the weather the higher you'll need to go - precipitation & dew increases the chance of fruiting - if you live in v. wet climate then maybe low ground is okay

cattle fields are NOT ideal - in ten years picking in UK I've never found substantial amounts in fields with cows - maybe because they trample up the ground too much - so I agree with concretefeet; places grazed for a long time by sheep, deer or horses are far better

typical habitat is: pasture near/amongst gorse, heather,thistles,sedge grass & bracken ferns etc (think Scottish moors)- - - if you don't see signs of other mushrooms then you probably wont find psilocybes - - look on fields with slight inclines & look around bases of sedge and thistles ( but not in totally waterlogged ground where sedge sometimes grows, just nice and damp! )

I agree with mjshroomer - golf courses can yield libs but they tend to be puny and small - they will only grow prolifically and to a fair size in the habitats I mentioned above.

the kind of mushrooms that I usually spot before liberty caps in the same environment are earth tongues (yellow antler - shaped thingies) psilocybe papiloniaceous/campanulatus/sphinctrinus and stropharia semiglobata (the slimy one)- I've never seen liberty caps grow in the same fields as fairy ring mushrooms or on fields with lots of moss & clovers- so I reckon if you see them you're in the wrong place? in UK 200 miles can make all the difference - in the northwest and wales you can fill up bin liner bags in good times - but down in the south east where I live you get far fewer and the season starts a good month later - its all down to that heavy rain that libs love - - - good luck!!!


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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: todosmentira]
    #5763268 - 06/18/06 04:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

thanks guys - some great info.
Most of the grassy areas around my area are nearly all full of coprinus species and marasmius ordeas (fairy-ring mushie). Since ive only ever hunted for dung and woodlovers these are a whole new ball game.
Curecat - wow those temps are hotter than i expected. Its actually a lot colder over where i am in the bottom of Australia right now, but we havent had much rain for a while unfortunately.
Ive been told that semis have been found in the alpine region of Victoria, infact i know the guy that found them there so at least i know they are out there. Just when we went up it was dry and then two weeks later it snowed.
Up here, they were growing near grasses right near a peat bog. So that sounds like the right kind of environment for them.

if any of you guys could take or show me some habitat photos id be very happy.

MJ can you find any info on exact locations in Victoria, australia? Cheers guys!


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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5763290 - 06/18/06 04:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I googled a place in UK where I've had success to try and find some representative pics of habitat - not allowed to give location - but this is the kind of thing you wanna see (+ sheep!! these places are full of sheep but they seem to be hiding in the pics)







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    #5763300 - 06/18/06 04:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

sorry - posted small pics - grabbed a bigger one of pic number 2 for you - for me this is the ideal habitat for liberty caps - if you have anything resembling this in Australia then go get yer feet wet!!



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    #5763315 - 06/18/06 05:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

just trying to put off some work I have to do - isn't the internet evil?

anyway - I found pic of a field I have actually picked hundreds of shrooms in (no location given!!)



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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5763762 - 06/18/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Blue meanie, In the UK trhey are pretty common in tall rank grasses and sedge grasses and are common in parks, along roadways in tall rank grasses. In the US, India and Parts of South America there more common in pastures.. AS I mentioned to you above, read some of the articles on PNW liberty caps. They grow form Bandon ORegon to British Colo umbia form July through December and sometimes into january.

Your season is APril-June or so, about the same season as trhe Subbs, cubes and copes.

I thknkl many people elsewhere are not aware of the diffferent seasons for Australia as opposed tio England and Europe where their seasons are actually a little shorter and they get a frost or freeze alot different thatn you guys get or the PNW of the U.S.A.

But you will find some really cool reports and first hand acocunts of where they grow and how many people use to pick them here.

There wwere Saturdays where hundreds of people would get ticketed for trespassing. Sheriffs publically saying they did not grow here and there labs analysed pounds of them and could not find any active ingredients. These are all true tales of the PNW.

Below is a field from Oregon near West Lake, Oregon.



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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5763808 - 06/18/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Well to induce you to check out those news items, Some have great images of shroom pickers and such.

We even have local radio stations every year who anoounce that the magic mushrooms are up.

When I moved to Seattle, the year beforwe I wrote Magic musrhooms fo the PNW, I turned onthe tv and saw Jonathan Ott give a shroom interview.

Anyway, here are a few clippings of PNW in the 1970s.

I have hundreds of such clippings.

These are from the MJ shroom World Site:

This first one from Seattle mentions my mushroom book. Thisd helped my book have a 6 month sales of 50,000 copies. It outsold Paul Stamets, "Psilocybin Mushrooms and their Alloes by 45,000 books.

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SEATTLE TIMES
Tuesday, September 21, 1976. Page 1

'Magic Mushroom' -- Risky Fungus Among Us?
By John Wilson

Don Sadler, Whatcom County undersheriff, says there isn't much of a problem thyere with mind-altering "magic mushrooms," but Dave McEachran, county prosecutor, says there is.

Frederick Rody Jr., now acting director of the federal Drug Enforcement Agency and former regional director in Seattle, says hallucinogenic mushrooms don't grow here. He says "magic mushrooms" are only common mushrooms lace with LSD.

Well, perhaps as a suprise to numerous adults, including Rody, psychedelic mushrooms do grow abundantly in the Pacific Northwest.

Ask the farmers, whose fences are knocked down by hundreds of young people flocking to pastures where magic mushrooms grow.

There is an inherent danger in harvesting them because they are easily confused with poisonous species, some of which are deadly.

A number of books have been published recently which tell how to identify magic mushrooms. Some of the books have incredible advice.

One is "Magic Mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest by Mushroom John," a 24-page booklet printed in Seattle and sold for $2.50. Mushroom John tells readers how to identify a magic mushroom with cinnamon-colored gills, then adds; "There is a cinnamon-colored mushroom in the field which I have not identified as yet and this mushroom can make you very sick, so do not pick it."

McEachran aid many farmers have complained about vandalism by mushroom seekers in their fields. He said there is trafficking in the mushrooms, which are illegal to possess because of the substances they contain.

McEachran knows first-hand of the interest in the mushrooms, which cause a drug trip similar to that, of LSD. He lives outside Bellingham near a field which is a favorite collecting place.

Whatcom County is considered by many to be the best area to collect the mushrooms, although they grow profusely in many areas of Western Washington.

Tom Robbins, LaConner author who first used magic mushrooms in the 1960s says collecting "is growing by leaps and bounds," in the Skagit Valley.

Robbins says it wasn't widely known until fairly recently that the mushrooms grew here.

Farmers are putting up no-trespassing signs in fields which have been heavilly picked in the past, Robbins reports, "the Skagit Valley is being over-run," he says.




There are also many articles form British Colombia just like the ones from Oregon and Washington. A great chronological record of their spread across the territory

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TRI-CITY HERALD
PASCAL, KENNEWICK, RICHLAND, WASHINGTON.
Friday November 7, 1975


Oregonians Get Free, Legal High With Dung Mushrooms

Portland, Oregon (AP) Young people by the hundreds, searching for a free, legal and colorful "high" are scouring Western Oregon pastures for small brown mushrooms that will provide it for them. And this year, hunting is good.

The hallucinogenic results of eating the fungus are said to resemble those of psilocybine, and for a time the word spread that that's what the mushrooms contained.

But Lt. Manuel Boyes of the Oregon State Crime Laboratory said their checks have turned up no psilocybin in the mushrooms, and said that he didn't know what the ingredient was that caused the effect.

"But if you drink a highball and eat a few of them, you can take a pretty good trip on the combination," he said, adding that he had talked to only one person who had eaten the mushrooms. "he said it was pretty weird -- something he wouldn't want to do again," Boyes related.

Last year, the first year in which the properties of the mushrooms became generally known, there were only a few hunters after them.

But the word got around, and this year, especially in Tillamook County on the north Oregon coast, hunters by the hundreds are combing cow pastures.

Cars line the highways and Sheriff Del Walpole of Tillamook County said the number of hunters this year is creating some problems.

"They're going through the farmers fences," he said. "I understand some of the farmers now are charging pickers to hunt in their pastures."

He said while most of the hunters are college age, some are in their 50s and 60s, and that most of the picking is apparently being done for resale in schools.

"I don't know how much they are getting, but I heard up to $35 for a small bag full," Walpole said.

Donald Goetz, former head of the Oregon Mycological Society, said the mushrooms are Psilocybe.

"They're a dung loving mushroom, which is why they look for them in the pastures," he said. Tillamook County has a substantial dairy cattle industry.

"If you eat 30 or 40 of them you start to see color and all sorts of things like that," he said. "Me? Oh, no, but I talked to one young man who tried it..."

THE OREGONIAN
November 27, 1976. Page 15B


MUSHROOM MADNESS PACKS PICKERS IN PSYCHEDELIC PASTURES

It's Psychedelic mushroom madness time in the Pacific Northwest, and one are of particularly predominnant pursuit is Tillamook County, where growing conditions are ideal.

"In the last three weeks we've had literally hundreds and hundreds of pickers," said Sgt. Harold Kottre of the Tillamook office of the Oregon State Police.

Mary Jane Pollard, who lives on a 70-acre farm near Tillamook, said, "One day I saw 50 people in one field, picking. There are lines of cars on highways shoulders. They're nuts."

Pastures are where the mind-blowing mushrooms flourish. As Mrs. Pollard puts it, "They grow out of cow manure. IT makes me sick to think about it. They're poison.>

The tiny mushrooms contain psilocybin and psilocin, chemicals akin to LSD. Too many sicken the eater.

"They eat them and then throw them back up, and that is when they see psychedelic colors, as I understand it," Mrs. Pollard said. "I've never tried it. I wouldn't."

Sgt. Kottre said, "The problem pickers pose to us is complaints of landowners. About half the property where they grow is now posted.

"When it is posted and landowners complain about trespassers, we issue citations for criminal trespassing in the second degree," he added. "We've issued several dozen. The maximum fine is $250; however, most range from #50 to $100."

Also, Sgt Kottre said, "There have been several cases of mushroom overdose[s] who were taken to local hospitals."

Mrs. Pollard said, "there are some farmers who are selling them and some who charge people to go into their fields and pick. I heard of one farmer who sold a one-pound bag of these mushrooms for $200. I've heard as high as $900 if they're dried."

"Some pickers climb over fences and stretch or break them," she added. "I won't let them in our field because I know what they are doing with them--selling them."

"Kids get out there with these bread bags and fill 'fill," Mrs. Pollard said. "They grow back in the same spot in six hours."

"But why ruin your body?" she said. "There are too many good things in life you can enjoy. A walk on the beach does as much for me as those would.

In Seattle, three men found picking the mushrooms near an insurance company building told officers the fungi was "good on pizza and would give you a good buzz."

Since November 10 at least 409 persons have called to asked about mushroom poisoning at the Children's Orthopedic Hospital Poison Control Center in Seattle.

Dr. Alf Pederson of the Seattle-King County Health Department said seven teen-agers recently were brought into a hospital with violent reactions to mushrooms.

"These young teen-agers have gotten into a little fad," he said. "They're taking a real risk. They dcould easily get into trouble with toxic mushrooms."

One boy, a suburban Seattle juniour high c=school student, ate some hallucinogenic mushrooms and said, "It was too horrible to describe -- I'll never do it again."

When brought into the hospital he swore, struggled against restraining straps and clawed at the hospiutal attendants who fought to pump his stomach. He believed they were torturing him.

Another mushroom user said the fad is "growing by leaps and bounds" in the Skagit Valley about 50 miles north of Seattle.



EMERALD DAILY [of the University of Oregon]
December 1, 1976. Page 7


Mushroom Pickers Invade Oregon Woods, Pastures

Astoria, Oregon (AP) - Northwest Mushroom Experts generally agree that persons searching for hallucinogenic effects from the fungi may become violently ill because they pick the wrong kind.

Amateur mushroom pickers have invaded Northwest pastures and woodlands in recent weeks, many gathering mushrooms to create a "high" similar to the drug psilocybin.

Reports of violent illness and erratic behavior have surfaced in the wake of mushroom harvests. Two teen-age boys were hospitalized over the weekend in Lincoln City south of Astoria after drinking tea made from mushrooms.

At lest one farmer in the Astoria area is charging $5 an hour to picking rights. The mushrooms sell locally for about the same price as Marijuana, $10 to $15 an ounce.

Scientists say the most sought after mushrooms are Liberty Caps, the popular name for Psilocybe semilanceata. But it takes an expert to distinguish them from other varieties that cause illness, the experts caution.

"The effect of the intoxication is extremely variable depending a lot on the climate that the mushrooms grew in," said George Constantine, a pharmacist at Oregon State University who specializes in the toxic effects of plants.

"If a person gets real psilocybin mushrooms, he won't get sick and vomit. But there arre hundreds of these little brown mushrooms that look like these little fellows and they will make you very sick," Constantine said.

The legal status of the mushrooms also is in question.

Roger Bingemann, director of the Oregon State crime Laboratory, said only two of the 30 or 35 varieties of psilocybe mushrooms contain psilocybin and are illegal. Lab tests have not shown the drug to be present in mushrooms found in Oregon.



The EMERALD-DAILY OF THE UNIVERSITY OF OREGON
January 5, 1977. Page 7.

Mushroom Pushing Proves Lucrative Living

By Shaun McCrea

The next time you see little gray mushrooms sprouting in your lawn you may catch sight of Mitchell Henderson -- picking them. Henderson (not his real name), a soft-spoken, free and easy example of the Oregon counter-culture, is one of the many mushroom hunters in the Pacific Northwest interested in gathering hallucinogenic mushrooms. But his interest is more than a hobby, it's a profession. Henderson supports himself by selling psilocybin mushrooms. During the six to eight weeks of warm weather and heavy rain in the fall and spring, Henderson travels as-far-as the coast, searching for Psilocybe semilanceata -- one of the 17-odd-varieties of hallucinogenic mushrooms growing in the Williamette Valley.

Psilocybe semilanceata (also-called the "liberty cap) is probably the most common variety of psilocybin mushroom in the valley. One usually finds it sprouting in meadows, along roadsides and around dung after a heavy rain. A brownish mushroom with a hollow white stem and pinstripes radiating down its cap, semilanceata tends to grow in specific cycles year after year, and only appears in the fall and early spring. Other varieties appear at varying times of the year.

Henderson has been hunting mushrooms for about four years. "I began because I wanted to make a living in a creative way," he states. "Mushrooms are special because they're organic. They're a present from the earth."

The high is dependent on the quantity ingested, although about 20 medium mushrooms is the usual dose. Henderson refuses any comparison of LSD and mushrooms, claiming...."one is like being in the city -- the other like being in the country." Mushrooms are so much safer. The high ranges from pleasantly euphoric to a different consciousness altogether. "Zoomers take you beyond the realm of normality -- they bring out things within yourself you don't expect. They give you a sense of direction or even show you a planned destination."

Henderson enjoys the folklore surrounding "magic mushrooms" (or "zoomers" as he calls them), but most of all he enjoys his success as an entrepreneur. He appears constantly relaxed, self-confident and satisfied with his chosen profession. Perhaps he has reason to be.

Although only about 2 out of every 12 fields he checks ever yield mushrooms, Henderson usually manages to harvest between seven and 30 pounds of mushrooms each expedition. At $5 an ounce that totals $80 a pound or a whooping $2,400 on a 30 pound haul. Lucrative? Yes. Dangerous? Maybe. Under Section 274 of the Oregon Criminal Code, psilocybin and psilocin (the active ingredients in the mushrooms) are illegal to transport, cultivate, possess or process, and can be considered a Class A misdemeanor (maximum sentence of one year) or a Class B felony (maximum sentence of 10 years) depending on the discretion of the court.

However, fewer arrests are even made and even fewer cases prosecuted, because of the cumbersome process involved in testing the mushrooms for psilocybin and because of the time and effort necessary to maintain the freshness of the mushrooms for evidence (they deteriorate rapidly unless frozen or dried).

Sergeant Hunter of the Eugene Police Lab sighed when asked about mushrooms. "You mention mushrooms around here and everybody groans," he said. "I don't think we've had one sample sent in for analysis this whole year."

Whatever Police policy, Henderson doesn't worry about being busted. "It's something I put out of my head," he says simply. "It would take too much incriminating evidence for them to even build a case against me."

But even if the Eugene Police are not strict in enforcing the laws on psilocybin, there are other dangers that Henderson, as well as any other perspective picker, buyer or eater must consider. First, there is a good chance of picking the wrong mushrooms. On this, Henderson-himself voices concern. "I always worry I'll pick the wrong ones," he explains. "I'm not afraid I will, but I always worry. That is why I always test my mushrooms. Even a small bit of an Amanita verna (a death angel) can make a person horribly ill or even kill them. That's also why I stick to lowland picking -- once you get up into the hills the varieties run about 90 percent poisonous.

There is also the chance the mushrooms (even if psilocybin) will make a person ill. Because peoples metabolisms differ, their bodies react differently -- sometimes with disastrous results. Reports of people in both Oregon and Washington hospitalized from the effects of mushrooms have become common this fall, and indicate that metabolism has at least some effect on a person's physical ability to assimilate mushrooms. Henderson maintains the problem is psychological not physical, although he admits that some people inevitably have problems.

"I've never had a person sick," he emphasizes, "I've had a couple people who didn't get off after eating about 20 "zoomers" and that was surprising, but I've never had anyone freak out. I did have one guy who had a hard time but that was only because he didn't have faith in himself."

A third problem relates to where a picker chooses to hunt. Often, it is on someone's private property without their permission and as such constitutes trespassing. Henderson relates a run-in of this nature. "I found hoardes of mushrooms in this one last year, but as I was leaving the farmer came bounding up and told me I couldn't leave, that he'd called the police. I waited about 20 minutes, got tired of it and left. The dude, jumped in his four-wheel drive, pick-up and nudged my car into the ditch. The police came and arrested me for trespassing, but the guy never did more than press charges so it never went to court." Henderson smiles. "About 50 percent of the farmers are like that."

Conversely, Henderson cites an example of another farmer who gave him complete permission to pick mushrooms, just as long as he didn't destroy the fences or let the farmers cows loose.

Besides the fact that psilocybin mushrooms are illegal, difficult to identify and somewhat unpredictable, there are other aspects to be considered. Since mushrooms often grow in fields or meadows near dung, they tend to be unclean -- a factor that can lead to the contraction of tetanus --The probability of picking up heart worms is a lesser but still possible danger.

The number of people searching for or eating mushrooms has increased tremendously only this year. The Drug Information Center (DIC) estimates that in November alone over 200 people came in or called for information regarding mushrooms. As the popularity of consuming psilocybin mushrooms increases, so does the danger of mishap. Admittedly, there are some people who know the varieties of mushrooms, know how to test them and even how to make money out off them. Mitchell Henderson is one of those people -- but he is a definite exception to the rule. Most people simply do not have the background, knowledge or training and they are advised to either forget mushroom hunting or to at least send a sample of any mushrooms they have picked to the DIC for analysis.





Anyway, that should pique yyour curiosity about them and why they are loved buy all who seek them.

mj


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    #5766809 - 06/19/06 04:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5775421 - 06/21/06 03:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

For Psilocybe semilanceata in the U.S........by far most common in wetter areas of well manured paddocks/ pastures....

For Psilocybe strictipes there is an interesting obvious association in western Oregon with a specific species of perennial grass which it seems to be somewhat obsessed (or the grasses preferred habitat).......this a type of bent grass....... Agrostis capillaris which is a common introduced weed and important turf grass ingredient which could possibly lead to a high potential for P. strictipes occuring anywhere new sod is introduced (lawns) and/ or through broadcast seed dispersal and also occurs at higher elevations naturally (invasive/ introduced)......and of coarse pastures....

They can also look quite distinct for a grass when in bloom (in season).....if your associated grass is a perrenial......many times these can be easily clipped severely back to almost nothing along with barerooted making it easy for transport and then quikly grown out in a new local for study/ and identification

It would be interesting to note a similiar association with this species in Australia and may be an indicator for detecting preferred search situations.

Here is some reference for this grass in Australia....
Agrostis capillaris L., Sp. Pl. 62 (1753).
A. tenuis Sibth., .
A. vulgaris With., .

Distribution. Introduced. Tasmania, New South Wales, Victoria, Western Australia, and South Australia (ACT ?).

Ecology. Mesophytic; in open habitats. Common as a weed of pastures and roadsides and invading native herb and grassfields in highland areas. Occurs mainly on poor, acid soil types. Flowers spring-summer.

Notes. Economic importance: a major turf species (lawns and sports turf) in the cooler parts of Australia. Also a major weed of pastures especially in areas of low soil fertility.

http://delta-intkey.com/pooid/www/descr016.htm

http://www.honeybee.helsinki.fi/mmsbl/ku...ris%20s1-16.jpg
http://www.honeybee.helsinki.fi/mmsbl/ku...ris%20y1-14.jpg
http://www.genevrier.be/poacees/Agrostis_capillaris/Agrostis_capillaris_3006-2002_1.jpg
http://www.naturewatchbaltic.org/tools/booklets/sanddune/foto/agrostis-capillaris.jpg http://www.genevrier.be/poacees/Agrostis_capillaris/Agrostis_capillaris_3006-2002_6.jpg
http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/flora/plants/poaceae/agrostis_capillaris.jpg
http://www.genevrier.be/poacees/Agrostis_capillaris/Agrostis_capillaris_3006-2002_7.jpg


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Worlds Largest 'Liberty Cap' (Cali Libs Confirmed !)
' Comments On Hallucinogenic Agarics And The Hallucinations Of Those Who Study Them '
Alexander H. Smith
Mycologia vol.69 1977


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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: shroominDole]
    #5776823 - 06/21/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I should mention that for every two to three hundred liberty caps one picks in a pasture, only 2-3 are P. strictipes. It ios not a common species and there is basically no different betweent the two. They are hard to distinguis macroscopically form one another.

I would't sweat over not finding any. I only picked maybe a few dozen in the past 30 years or so.

The liberty caps are more common.

mj


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Re: Liberty cap info request [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5779522 - 06/22/06 04:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

SHroomindole - thanks HEAPS for that info = that is priceless!


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