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Invisibleindica
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: LightShedder]
    #5785973 - 06/24/06 04:11 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"If acid prices are too high and you want to do something about it, believe it or not, the only solution to the problem is: to keep buying acid.

In time, when potential manufacturers find out how much money they can make, they will be more likely to take the risk than not. Talking people out of buying what acid is available because the price is too high will most likely result in current manufacturers either scaling back, or stopping all together. If you want more manufacturers, then you want more buyers, not less, regardless of the price.

This is not saying that the "betterment of mankind" should not be some kind of a motivator, but unless you're litterally doing community service every waking moment yourself, it's kind of silly not to think that money should not be the bigger motivator. "

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you guys who complain about the price are probably just spoilt.
Its about the price, people usually ask for something in return for anything they give, its just the way the cookie crumbles.


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: indica]
    #5785992 - 06/24/06 04:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

btw people just happen to value their 'drugs' differently everywhere all over the world.
its just fuckin the way it is man, fuck

i seriously dont mind if I have to pay $20-$30 for one hit of average/good acid and i thought that was a prety good price until I came to this web site and saw you guys bitching about having to pay $8 for a hit of acid.

i dunno but its just how you value and market it, its supply and demand... the harder it is to find and market, the more its going to cost.
thats why coke costs $300 p/gram down here


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: indica]
    #5786144 - 06/24/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

LSD chemists have no motivation to start selling LSD. You can't just start a drug network overnight unless you know people, and LSD chemists arean't a dime a dozen, if they try to get supply all the demand they will get busted. If people here really care that much about LSD they should go back to college, major in chemistry and do the shit themselves. Why would a chemist make a drug that he won't get more than 10,000 for a gram, when he can make a drug that he can get $1,000,000. The reason why you see more fentanyl chemists who have the potential skill to make LSD and the resources, is because people get into business for the money. If your going to get life in prison either way if you get busted, you should be well compensated, just like if you are going to get a year if you get busted you should be compensated. I really don't think the LSD market will ever be the same after the dead died out and the major chemist got busted. The only future LSD has is either a lot of small time chemists making small batches, or importation. I think that in the US we have a little bit of both, probally leaning more to importation, as it is very easy to get in Europe from what I've heard. Of course chemists that are making sufentanil, fentanyl, or any of the other superior analogues can just start making both, but unfortunatly that would double the risk as the people buying and selling heroin are completely different than the people buying and selling LSD.
The other disadvantage is that people use heroin 2-3 times a day, people don't use LSD that often, and people don't have $100 a day LSD habbits. This means that you would have to deal with even more people to make it profitable, and from a business perspective, you can easily conclude that selling LSD is probally one of the least profitable ways for a chemist to make money. The DEA would have no problem at all dismanteling LSD ongoing LSD setups, if they actually put the resources out, though they are much more likely to go after someone making fentanyl than LSD. However, even if you have several safe guards, and you never cook until all the LSD is gone, all it takes is one person you know and trust to fuck you, chain reactions like that are a lot less likely if the people you work for know that not only will they be killed if they rat, but also their entire family. This isn't an LSD practice, but it is a common practice amoung the cartels of mexico and columbia (the people who would be running the fentanyl labs). So in the end, its all about how much your people care about their own ass, and rats are a dime a dozen. Unless The Dead regroups like how Jerry wanted, and people start following them in even half the #'s that they followed the GD, I think LSD isn't going to ever be as centralised as it once was, more likely it will be imported. Of course the internet could probally change that to some extent, but their is a lot of pigs to worry about, probally some pigs on this msg board as well. I know there is some on BL, most are probally in AOL chat rooms though. To befriend someone for a few months to a year and then stab them in the back, you can't have a soul.


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5786258 - 06/24/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There are safeguards to having someone you are working with stab you in the back. They call this a thumbprint. This is why most of the traditional family doesn't get busted. Plus, LSD is centralized and it is fucking flooded in this country(USA) right now. If you don't know where to get it, keep looking, it is everywhere right now.


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: mecreateme]
    #5786340 - 06/24/06 11:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It isn't as centralized as it was, and even if it was it can still be taken out pretty easily by the DEA. Taking a thumb print doesn't mean shit, the person I knew who got busted with a bible and got caught selling like 5 sheets to a narc took thumbprints before, and he was going to flip his dealer, but since the dealer was in NYC and he was in NJ they didn't offer him a deal. He was pretty damn high up, if he woulda flipped his dealer, and his dealer would of flipped his dealer, then that woulda whipped out a few major dealers, though he didn't really rat anyone out and though he wanted to you can't prove that he would have unless it actually happened. I think he would have screwed them in a heart beat though. From what his ex-girlfriend told me, his connect was laying crystal, so he wasn't that far away from people who knew the person who dealt with the chemist. Considering he was buying a bible everyweek, whoever he was dealing with was really high up. Their are a lot of rats out there, you can't trust people just cause they take a thumbprint, that logic is seriously flawed. Hell even an undercover who just happens to have experience with LSD could take a thumbprint. That only would work againest the bulk of undercover cops, not really willing to invest resources. Shit the last LSD chemist to get busted HIMSELF was a rat. LSD is just starting to recover, but its still don't think its centralised. I know LSD used to be easier to get here than weed, now I haven't seen LSD in Jersey since 2002 with the exception of when jambans come thru and acid from the city. You can get it, shit I could get it, but it wouldn't be from someone in my state. I can get any drug in this state with ease, if LSD was centralised, I would think that it would be a little bit more common, and from what I've seen it comes and goes and isn't consistent at all. Leading me to believe that its either being imported, or a chemist is making batches, taking a break, making batches, taking a break, etc. I could be wrong, but another thing I was told is that acid made in the Bay Area isn't anywere near as plentiful as it was when Pickard was around. I also heard that the price jumped up big time.


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Hanky]
    #5786699 - 06/24/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

So true man, ur right on it! I only spend about $10 for a blotter stamp! I wish everything was free and we never fought over weed and LSD.


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I believe with the advent of acid we discovered new way to think and it had to
do with piecing together new thoughts of mind. Why is it that people think it's
so evil? What is it about it that there is scares people so deeply? Because
they are afraid that there is more to reality than they have ever confronted.
That there are doors that they're afraid to go in and they don't want us to go
in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they
don't know. And that makes us a little out of their control.


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: tocuhe]
    #6982045 - 05/29/07 01:33 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

It would cost me 32$ a hit. I have never bought it because of the high price. there is NO lsd around my area but my dealer said he could get it from another state. But he said it would be 8 dollars for a fourth of a hit.


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Stephen]
    #6982077 - 05/29/07 01:39 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I used to say I wouldnt pay more than 10/hit for good acid...

Ill take that back now. I wont pay more than $5/hit for awesome blotter acid. Its too easy to come by, too cheap to make, and im not going to propagate this drug dealer mentality when selling psychedelics. You spread psychedelics, not use them to make a living.


Edited by gopenguins (05/29/07 01:40 PM)


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: dedjam]
    #6982861 - 05/29/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

All it takes is a few rich guys with a heart of gold and the right connections and it will rain.

I'm not rich myself. But my spirit is pure, and my intentions are gold. I'm willing to sell my truck, and buy a sheet or two - and GIVE IT ALL AWAY.

It's hard as hell to hook up, though. I've been able to hook a ten strip, but that's it. At least I was able to introduce a few people to acid with it...


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: GrizzyCappy]
    #6983143 - 05/29/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I'm dieing to find a half sheet for like 300. Prices are too expensive. If only I knew more people who would sell online :frown:

Around here its 7-10 a hit, way too much.


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: tocuhe]
    #6983167 - 05/29/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Been about 100-300 a sheet, slightly more for liquid, been that way for some time now, roughly 3-5 a hit for gels, and 5 for liquid.


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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #6983466 - 05/29/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Just bought some acid last weekend for $5 a hit and fried pretty good off of two.  Gotta love the west coast where life is easy and drugs come cheap. :cool:


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