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StickyWater
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: indica]
#5763951 - 06/18/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Acquiring acid can be tricky and is risky... You're not talking your way out of it if you get busted with acid. These people supplying you are taking a big risk. If there's no acid in your area they'll have to travel to get it, bigger risk, plus gas prices. They throw the risk factor and gas into the price, it gets sold to other dealers as it's the only acid in the area at that higher price, they have to sell it at a higher price so they didn't end up traveling to get the acid and taking the risk of carrying it around on them just so they can break even. If you're in an area that just doesn't get acid then you should be lucky there are people willing to travel and bring it into your area unless you want to travel...
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Asante
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: tocuhe]
#5764071 - 06/18/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Acid shouldn't cost a lot of money. And it shouldn't be hard to find.
But quite often it does and it is.
This is why you have to take responsibility in your own hands and grow your own mushrooms, so that 4-HO-DMT will not pass you by too.
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tocuhe
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Asante]
#5764337 - 06/18/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"These people supplying you are taking a big risk" But the people taking the risk should be doing it because they feel they are doing this as a benefit to society/mankind. People who do it for money should, in my opinion, not be supported. That's all I was saying. (low prices are bulk as well) As for the scarity of acid (talking about the US), if you had money to drop on bulk, then you probably have the money to travel as well. Go to SF or Portland or any big city that has a acid scene (which is most I assume, altho I only do the west coast mainly) and get it there. Ive heard of 10 packs (thats 10 sheets or 1,000 doses) that are taxed heavily by the middleman (who is not directed connected in the production/sale) of 130 mics a hit for $2,500. and that can be easily obtaiend in SF unless you come off as the biggest custie in the world.
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: tocuhe]
#5764387 - 06/18/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i know, it's ridiculous. acid used to be readily available, and free. not enough people are into it. too many people believe that it'll make them have flashbacks for the rest of their lives and that it doesnt leave their system for 7 years because it's in their spinal cord.
people need to make people realize that it isn't true. everyone who has it should be introducing new, likeminded people to it and dispelling these myths. if there's more demand for it, more people would be making it and it would be cheaper and more readily available. unfortunately, a lot of people don't want to go beyond mushrooms because they think that acid would be way too much to handle, when in reality it's a lot easier on you than mushrooms are.
do your part and things will change. things have been changing for the better in the last couple of years, and hopefully they'll continue to do so.
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thehandtruck
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: nightkrawler]
#5764572 - 06/18/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know how good of an idea it would be to just travel to a place with nobody you know in it with loads of cash on you and just ask random people,"Hey got any cid?". Again, it seems like the people who can get it are missing my point. An effort must be made to get it to parts of the country that are dry if you are truly one who believes this wonderful drug is the greatest discovery mankind has ever made (which it is) and should be spread to everybody. Not this stuff about,"I'm lazy you find it it's there blah blah balh." Not only that, but maybe you will be opening up a new market to that part of the country. Say somebody were to mail me 2 sheets for 800-1000. I would spend my time not gaining back the money I lost, but showing my friends this drug and on and on until there is a market for it in my area. Just having money is not going to get you acid. People are afraid of the DEA and all that trash. Uh, sorry for the somewhat bitter/angry rant. I think some of you can relate or if you not, atleast understand.
Edited by thehandtruck (06/18/06 02:29 PM)
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shroomanic
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: thehandtruck]
#5764707 - 06/18/06 03:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm going to buy a vial for $350 once my paycheck come around. I was offered acid a couple nights ago for $15 a hit an denied it instantly. All of my friends have told me I should sell it for $10. I think I'll have it there, but if somebody is smart enough to request a lower price I'll give it to them.
I just hate the idea of people buying acid to "get fucked up". If somebody is using it for good reasons, I'll probably hook it up for $5 a hit.
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: thehandtruck]
#5764998 - 06/18/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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its just so fuckin risky man...
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5765054 - 06/18/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a friend visiting from australia right now and he was telling me how expensive E is down there...the only thing thats the same price is weed(but he also buys from a friend who grows) its too bad really but drugs are business to a lot of ppl
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DrGeek
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5767267 - 06/19/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't mind paying $10 for a hit, considering my first time on shrooms I split an 1/8th with someone and it only cost us $10 each.
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Trav
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: tocuhe]
#5767300 - 06/19/06 09:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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My LSD connection charged 10 dollars a hit the first few times I purchased off of him. As time went on and he realized I was into the stuff, he lowered the price to a more reasonable 6-7 dollars a piece. I don't mind paying either price though because to me 20$ isn't very much money for the experience 2 hits of acid puts forward. Acid is incredible and usually worth picking up at slightly elevated prices.
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va_shroomer
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Trav]
#5767438 - 06/19/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It seems to be quite variable. I know a guy who can get me a vial of 70 hits for 100$, so that's about $1.40 a hit. I figure there's either a naughty chem student at the college, some old hippy in the county, or it's getting shipped in from Richmond/Virginia Beach/Newport News/some other big city. It really does suck that it's so expensive/scarce in some parts. Hopefully someday it'll become common and popular again.
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Economist
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: tocuhe]
#5767482 - 06/19/06 10:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
tocuhe said: "These people supplying you are taking a big risk" But the people taking the risk should be doing it because they feel they are doing this as a benefit to society/mankind. People who do it for money should, in my opinion, not be supported.
People who have the knowledge, skill, and experience to make acid are, by definition, valuable. Why should they be expected to simply share that skill, experience, and knowledge with mankind without expecting something in return?
More importantly, why should they spend their time synthesizing acid when they could be doing medicinal or chemical research or investigation? Wouldn't that also help mankind? More importantly, couldn't that also lead to job advancement, winning patents, etc.? That could also benefit mankind, as well as significantly benefitting the chemist.
Now, maybe the chemist doesn't want to do research when not "on the job" maybe he just wants to watch TV, listen to music, or do whatever the rest of us do when we're not working. And why shouldn't he? Why does the education that he earned for himself somehow entitle anyone to cheaper acid?
You could spend every minute you're not working to support yourself doing community service, but I'm willing to bet that you don't (not that I do much either, or even very much at all, but I also don't ask it from others in any form).
Also, manufacturing acid is even harsher than most forms of community service because they won't potentially land you in jail. So why don't you do it?
I'm willing to bet the answer to most of the above questions (whether most want to admit it or not) is money.
If acid prices are too high and you want to do something about it, believe it or not, the only solution to the problem is: to keep buying acid.
In time, when potential manufacturers find out how much money they can make, they will be more likely to take the risk than not. Talking people out of buying what acid is available because the price is too high will most likely result in current manufacturers either scaling back, or stopping all together. If you want more manufacturers, then you want more buyers, not less, regardless of the price.
This is not saying that the "betterment of mankind" should not be some kind of a motivator, but unless you're litterally doing community service every waking moment yourself, it's kind of silly not to think that money should not be the bigger motivator.
Edited by Economist (06/19/06 10:09 AM)
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Asante
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Economist]
#5768221 - 06/19/06 02:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I look at the lousy mentality displayed by some users, who really want to get "fucked up", I think its OK that LSD does not come cheap.
For someone who values the LSD experience, $10 or even $15 is a steep but acceptable price to pay for a strong dose of LSD. True, it makes for the $100.000 gram pricing it like that, but LSD should not become the default friday whack to the head like it was in the 1960s. LSD abuse caused the freakouts and hollowed out the 1960s Revolution.
For the true adept LSD should be as free as the air we breathe, and I'd be all for the $50 sheet. But in situations where the sincerity of the user is unknown, the price should be high.
And let the manufacturer make a buck. I'd rather have the chemist who makes my LSD being able to take seasonal trips to the Himalaya mountains for meditation, rather than sweating in some trailer in the desert inhaling fumes because his gas mask filter has expired.
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Hanky]
#5770274 - 06/19/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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This shows your ignorance, heroin had nothing to do with Jerry's death, his shit health is what killed him. Heroin withdrawl no doubt didn't help, but he would have died soon enough reguardlessly. Besides that, if he wasn't on smack 24/7 whose to say he would of still been touring. As for the thread, LSD is a drug, people sell drugs to make money. If you honestly believe that it is otherwise, your fooling yourself. Why the fuck should someone risk his ass selling acid, and make a shit profit? The fact that you can even get it is good enough. If you don't want to pay high prices, noone is forcing you, you have the choice to go without. Shit if I could get LSD I would sell it for what I can get, what the fuck do I care about this whole BS that LSD is magical, nothing. I won't sell fake LSD, and I won't overcharge people, but I will sell it for 2-3x what I paid for it, and if a sheet costs me 300 bucks, I'm going to be charging 10 bucks a hit, I won't go over that though, not because its wrong, but because I wouldn't pay more than 400 bucks a sheet. If LSD was so magical, how come almost the entire generation that used it are now the same generation that they were fighting againest? If anything is magical, its out minds, not the chemicals we put in it. I really think some people are totally unrealistic about this, its a fucking chemical nothing more, nothing less, just because it binds to certain receptors and it makes us feel different doesn't really mean shit other than its simular to certain chemicals we already have in our brain.
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tocuhe
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: twiggedoubt]
#5770291 - 06/19/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why the fuck should someone risk his ass selling acid, and make a shit profit?
Ever heard of the family? try reading chinacat's crystal to blotter thread (sorry chinacat if invoking your name into this bothers ya)
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: tocuhe]
#5772322 - 06/20/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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manufacturing lsd is a noble cause imo...I'm sure a lot of the chemists at the route of it all value lsd as a tool...so of course they should make a good profit...they are going against social standards for what they believe in...and this is one of the hardest(and riskiest) things u can do imo
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MrMolotov
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5772350 - 06/20/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ive been looking foreword to getting LSD for a while but nobody sells it or I'm too late in hearing about it and its really annoying me. sure i know i should wait for the acid to come to me but i really think it could help me with its teachings i love the lessons mushrooms have taught me and i think LSD would be an incredible experience. a friend is hopefully getting some liquid soon and he said he'd give me probably 25 hits on sugar cubes if i will take some shrooms with him on his first shroom trip. so yeah hopefully it will work out. I'm more than willing to pay high prices if necessary. peace
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rawtoxic
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: MrMolotov]
#5772816 - 06/20/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you are good people and need dosed I'll hit you out of my vial for free.
Fuck all this selling noise.
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rawtoxic
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: rawtoxic]
#5772821 - 06/20/06 03:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you people would go to some good jamband or jazz shows/festivals, be open minded and nice to everyone around you would be suprised as to what would happen.
Never underestimate the power of positive thinking it has done wonders in my life.
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thehandtruck
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Re: acid should not be expensive [Re: MrMolotov]
#5772890 - 06/20/06 03:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Twiggedoubt: I'm sorry to hear you feel that way. You seem like a really sad and more specifically bitter person who has not truly "got/understood" acid yet. You need to open yourself up to a level of introspection, which may or may not frighten you. Maybe you've gotten ripped off or hustles and what not but I suggest you try again with an open mind and see where this drug takes you.
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