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Leimana
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Pan cyans fruiting invitro?!
#5761757 - 06/17/06 08:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I made up some Pan cyan spawn and spawned it to about 2 gallons of horse poo/newspaper/cardboard mix. After about 5 days, it looked colonized, but circumstances required that I let it go for a while. It has been about 15 days since I spawned to the bulk substrate and put it into a spawn bag to colonize. I looked at it this morning, and I have mushrooms growing in the bag.
I did not think this would happen because my understanding of Pan cyans was that they needed lots of FAE, and would not fruit without a casing layer, neither of which they have had.
At this point, the fruits look a lot like Ps. cubensis, with longer than usual stems and small caps, all of which could be explained by the build up of CO2 in the bag, but the syringe that I used to create the spawn has twice in the past produced mushrooms that were unmistakeably Pan cyans. Needless to say, I am more than a little suprised and confused.
Any one ever seen this before? Can I open the bag, pick off the fruitbodies and primordia and crumble and case as I had planned?
Thanks,
Leimana
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: Leimana]
#5761764 - 06/17/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wheres the Pic!!!!
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5762352 - 06/17/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yah, pic is definitely needed in this situation
It's happened before, there is a slight chance you have a mislabeled syringe.
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Leimana
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: coda]
#5763109 - 06/18/06 02:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lights! Camera! Pictures:
The bag:

The syringe:

I got the syringe from Ralph, and, as I mentioned earlier, this same syringe HAS produced mushrooms that were unmistakeably Pan cyans.
Thanks, Leimana
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: Leimana]
#5763640 - 06/18/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmm I dunno too much about this, but I was sure Pan. cyanescens was a white stemmed white capped mushroom, possibly faintly yellow capped. The caps in that pic seem pretty brown so are you sure its really Pan. cyan? It is of couurse possible that the caps fade to a lighter color with time, something which I wouldnt known as I've never grown them before...
EDIT: sry, after posting I read the last thing you wrote about the syringe having produced what you are sure were Pan. cyan in the past. Nvm in that case. Also, I must admit that I never even read the original post to begin with. I just scrolled to the pics and posted. My apologies.
Edited by iamyour_messiah (06/18/06 08:45 AM)
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MLBjammer
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From that pic, they don't look much like Pans to me, either, but a lot like Cubensis. Maybe some Pan growers will take a look at this thread.
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: MLBjammer]
#5763993 - 06/18/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5764004 - 06/18/06 10:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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They look Cubie to me to
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: UnderNose]
#5764193 - 06/18/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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those look like cubensis to me. If you take a look at the largber pin in the first photo i see what appears to be a veil. Cyan's don't have veils.
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: coda]
#5764240 - 06/18/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you also grow cubes? Maybe you got a cubensis contamination.
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I agree, cubensis contamination. It happens all the time. It is almost as if pan cyan colonized manure is a selective media for cubensis.
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: Workman]
#5764658 - 06/18/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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A guy couldnt ask for a better contam .
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Leimana
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: Workman]
#5765998 - 06/18/06 11:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Workman (!) said: I agree, cubensis contamination. It happens all the time. It is almost as if pan cyan colonized manure is a selective media for cubensis.
Shit! That's possible? Time to make a either a flowhood, or a glove box big enough to work with 2-3 gallons of substrate.
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Leimana
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: Psychoslut]
#5766024 - 06/18/06 11:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said: A guy couldnt ask for a better contam .
Yeah, ok, it IS better than my usual bumper crop of trich.
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: Leimana]
#10960953 - 08/29/09 12:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Leimana said:
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Psychoslut said: A guy couldnt ask for a better contam .
Yeah, ok, it IS better than my usual bumper crop of trich.
Bahahah. ^^
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: Satisfy]
#10960966 - 08/29/09 12:11 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've heard of delayed reactions to a joke which you have to think about.
but never a 3 year delayed reaction.
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Re: Pan cyans fruiting invitro?! [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
#10960989 - 08/29/09 12:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago) |
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what can you do to prevent cubensis spore to contam pan myc ?
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