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Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms
    #5761258 - 06/17/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

everytime I've tripped it's been on dry shrooms, and I was wondering if the effects are different/more potent/etc; do you have to eat as much?

I need to know in like the next 2 hrs, please! Might be eating some freshies tonite!~ :tongue2:


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: frankthetank87]
    #5761270 - 06/17/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

fresh is way more potent. I dont know any exact numbers, maybe someone else will.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: Psy Baba]
    #5761274 - 06/17/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I heard you also have to eat more fresh though?


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: frankthetank87]
    #5761283 - 06/17/06 05:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

shrooms are approx. 90% water but also slightly more potent
but generally 20 fresh grams = 2 dried


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: frankthetank87]
    #5761285 - 06/17/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

U need less fresh. Dry loses some potency.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: frankthetank87]
    #5761286 - 06/17/06 05:38 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

if you go by weight dry is more potent.. but that is only because a mushroom is appx. 90% water.. but if you go by amount of actual fruits fresh is a little more potent.. if your going to be taking cubes take 3 to 5 decent size fruits and you will have a good time


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: frankthetank87]
    #5761293 - 06/17/06 05:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

calculate what they would weigh if they were dry. You eat more by weight because of the water content, but not in actual material. Find what the average water content of a shroom is and do the math.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: MasFina]
    #5761301 - 06/17/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

3 people responded at once, lol


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: MasFina]
    #5764022 - 06/18/06 11:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i grew mushies years ago, 1st attempt i got only 1 big 10g shroom on a brf cake, my girlfriend and i split it, 5g fresh = funny feeling for 2 min followed by no trip whatsoever.
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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: HarvestTheBrain]
    #5764027 - 06/18/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thats because you had the rough equivalent of 0.5 grams dry :smile:


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: mikeyboy]
    #5764037 - 06/18/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

eat like 30-40 wet grams for a 2-3 dry gram trip

I've had 100wet in a tea and split it with a friend, it was OK
But eating 4g dry smashed me a lot more.

Dry shrooms are as potent as fresh ones if they are dried properly. Just less water in them, = less to eat


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: UnderNose]
    #5764061 - 06/18/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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eat like 30-40 wet grams for a 2-3 dry gram trip

I've had 100wet in a tea and split it with a friend, it was OK
But eating 4g dry smashed me a lot more.





samething happened to me the other night i ate 40 grams fresh on an empty stomach.
it was about 2 hours after i ate them for me to feel a comeup
and i hardly could tell when the peak was if i peaked at all.
over all it was a weird trip .

few weeks ago i ate 4.5 grams dry and that blew me away
i got 49 grams half way dry sitting in front of me.
im just waiting till there cracker dry then im'a take those badboys and go wonder around in the woods
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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: RandomHero]
    #5764179 - 06/18/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Cracker dry! This way you can calculate your doses... Weigh it out and you will learn how much it takes for whatever trip you are looking for.
A wet shroom trip can be a messed up trip due to not knowing exactly how much you have taken.
May have been too much!!! May have not been enough!.
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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: YESSUP]
    #5764417 - 06/18/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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A wet shroom trip can be a messed up trip due to not knowing exactly how much you have taken.
May have been too much!!! May have not been enough!.
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Nah, I don't mind a wet shroom trip because then I specifically am not wondering about exactly how much I took, or how much it was in comparison to last time, or how much is the amount I think I can and cannot handle, etc. etc. etc.

Its all an experience, and I say just grab a handful, go with the flow, and enjoy. :wink:

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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5764670 - 06/18/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ive always heard/read that dried are stronger..

think about it.. why would u take 30 gs of wet shrooms when u can just eat 3 dry and have the same effects.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5764913 - 06/18/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)


Whats the dog think? Wet or Dry?
Its a timeless classic question :wink:


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: YESSUP]
    #5764929 - 06/18/06 04:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i think the dog dont give a shit
he would eat them fresh or dry

atleast my brothers dog would....crazy fuck


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: RandomHero]
    #5764961 - 06/18/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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i think the dog dont give a shit
he would eat them fresh or dry

atleast my brothers dog would....crazy fuck



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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: hippie_cune]
    #5765185 - 06/18/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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ive always heard/read that dried are stronger..

think about it.. why would u take 30 gs of wet shrooms when u can just eat 3 dry and have the same effects.




Dried certainly are stronger but thats because they are dried and weigh FAR less.
If anything the mushrooms loose some of the actives when you dry them.

Wet mushrooms are very easy to eat and they dont taste as much like shit as dried mushrooms. They chew up into a slime very easily and taste like a strong dinner mushroom.
Thats a few reasons why you might like to eat wet ones.
I prefer wet mushrooms.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: stemmer]
    #5765226 - 06/18/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Not to be an ass Stemmer, but I think the wet shrooms taste like shit, they are very stringy(fibrous). I cant stand them, but I eat them anyway. So who cares.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: TrancedShroom]
    #5765291 - 06/18/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I totally understand. The texture is not desirable.

I was just trying to point out how there is no way dry mushrooms are more potent than wet ones aside from the weight conversion.
If anything, wet ones are more potent.

Some people didnt seem to understand that, maybe they didnt read the whole thread. I just wanted to say that once and for all.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: fireworks_god]
    #15754024 - 02/02/12 10:44 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: mushroom messenger]
    #15754066 - 02/02/12 10:54 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: mushroom messenger]
    #15754096 - 02/02/12 11:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

It seems completely illogical to say dry are better.  Clearly, you are risking losing some actives in the drying process, but you certainly aren't gaining any. :shrug:


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: stemmer]
    #15754123 - 02/02/12 11:15 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I totally understand.  The texture is not desirable.

I was just trying to point out how there is no way dry mushrooms are more potent than wet ones aside from the weight conversion.
  If anything, wet ones are more potent.

Some people didnt seem to understand that, maybe they didnt read the whole thread.  I just wanted to say that once and for all.



:whathesaid:

Psilocybin starts to degrade because of oxidization, so by the time they have dried they have lost some potency. I personally can't tell much of a difference. When people say mushrooms are apprx 90% water they are correct, but remember that 90% is only an apprx. I am constantly drying mushrooms and usually always weigh before and then when they are done (cracker dry) and sometimes 30 g's wet might dry up to 2 g's and then sometimes it might dry to 3.4 g's dry. That makes dosing wet mushrooms a little tricky if accuracy is your goal.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: The Influence]
    #15754167 - 02/02/12 11:30 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I totally understand.  The texture is not desirable.

I was just trying to point out how there is no way dry mushrooms are more potent than wet ones aside from the weight conversion.
  If anything, wet ones are more potent.

Some people didnt seem to understand that, maybe they didnt read the whole thread.  I just wanted to say that once and for all.



:whathesaid:

Psilocybin starts to degrade because of oxidization, so by the time they have dried they have lost some potency. I personally can't tell much of a difference. When people say mushrooms are apprx 90% water they are correct, but remember that 90% is only an apprx. I am constantly drying mushrooms and usually always weigh before and then when they are done (cracker dry) and sometimes 30 g's wet might dry up to 2 g's and then sometimes it might dry to 3.4 g's dry. That makes dosing wet mushrooms a little tricky if accuracy is your goal.



Isn't that a good thing?  I feel that obsessing over dosages and timelines have detracted from many of my trips with lucy.


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: tokinman21]
    #15754259 - 02/03/12 12:02 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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I totally understand.  The texture is not desirable.

I was just trying to point out how there is no way dry mushrooms are more potent than wet ones aside from the weight conversion.
  If anything, wet ones are more potent.

Some people didnt seem to understand that, maybe they didnt read the whole thread.  I just wanted to say that once and for all.



:whathesaid:

Psilocybin starts to degrade because of oxidization, so by the time they have dried they have lost some potency. I personally can't tell much of a difference. When people say mushrooms are apprx 90% water they are correct, but remember that 90% is only an apprx. I am constantly drying mushrooms and usually always weigh before and then when they are done (cracker dry) and sometimes 30 g's wet might dry up to 2 g's and then sometimes it might dry to 3.4 g's dry. That makes dosing wet mushrooms a little tricky if accuracy is your goal.



Isn't that a good thing?  I feel that obsessing over dosages and timelines have detracted from many of my trips with lucy.



It may be for some and may not be for others :shrug: I think it would be important for someone who is not that experienced with mushrooms (or other drugs for that matter) to be able to accurately dose. But to each their own, I was just spreading a little knoweldge and personal experience.

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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: The Influence]
    #15754282 - 02/03/12 12:13 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

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The Influence said:
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I totally understand.  The texture is not desirable.

I was just trying to point out how there is no way dry mushrooms are more potent than wet ones aside from the weight conversion.
  If anything, wet ones are more potent.

Some people didnt seem to understand that, maybe they didnt read the whole thread.  I just wanted to say that once and for all.



:whathesaid:

Psilocybin starts to degrade because of oxidization, so by the time they have dried they have lost some potency. I personally can't tell much of a difference. When people say mushrooms are apprx 90% water they are correct, but remember that 90% is only an apprx. I am constantly drying mushrooms and usually always weigh before and then when they are done (cracker dry) and sometimes 30 g's wet might dry up to 2 g's and then sometimes it might dry to 3.4 g's dry. That makes dosing wet mushrooms a little tricky if accuracy is your goal.



Isn't that a good thing?  I feel that obsessing over dosages and timelines have detracted from many of my trips with lucy.



It may be for some and may not be for others :shrug: I think it would be important for someone who is not that experienced with mushrooms (or other drugs for that matter) to be able to accurately dose. But to each their own, I was just spreading a little knoweldge and personal experience.

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Yeah, I certainly wasn't disagreeing with you, just proposing an alternative...I can definitely see your point.  At the same time though, it just seems like maybe people should be more encouraged to consider it less of a dosage-oriented thing and more of a subjective sliding scale and just ride it out.  Seems like that's a better attitude to have.

That also might be a bit irresponsible though, I suppose. :shrug:


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: tokinman21]
    #15754316 - 02/03/12 12:26 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I see your point as well; I only usually weigh out a dose if I am looking to take a small amount 1-2 g's otherwise I grab a out of my stash and munch them down. It's like riding a new roller coaster, you don't know whats coming until you reach the peak :awesomenod:


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: RandomHero]
    #17386537 - 12/13/12 03:52 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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eat like 30-40 wet grams for a 2-3 dry gram trip

I've had 100wet in a tea and split it with a friend, it was OK
But eating 4g dry smashed me a lot more.





samething happened to me the other night i ate 40 grams fresh on an empty stomach.
it was about 2 hours after i ate them for me to feel a comeup
and i hardly could tell when the peak was if i peaked at all.
over all it was a weird trip .

few weeks ago i ate 4.5 grams dry and that blew me away
i got 49 grams half way dry sitting in front of me.
im just waiting till there cracker dry then im'a take those badboys and go wonder around in the woods
IMO dry is the way to go




Same problem here 3-4 times now, cant trip on fresh WTF??

Still got the problem ? maybe its my shrooms but dont think so


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: cirko]
    #17386592 - 12/13/12 04:04 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Or (not to ruin the thread)

Can it be, because i dont let the mushrooms grow fully ?


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Re: Fresh shrooms vs. Dry shrooms [Re: cirko]
    #17387438 - 12/13/12 06:40 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I find fresh to be way better, well, maybe not way better, but noticeably better than dry. If your not getting off on the fresh ones, you're probably just not eating enough.

I never weigh freshies, I just eye ball them. The first hand full of times I did shrooms were ones we just picked out of the field and ate right on the spot. Usually two boomers with a 2-3 inch cap and a 4 or so inch stem as thick as your pinky would do the trick.


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