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LochRaven
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MJ grow *DELETED*
#5759992 - 06/17/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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durban_poison
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why is your roommate so worried about 1000 watters? also probably shouldnt be growing with a roommate thats 1 person too many that would know.
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Legoulash
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Having a light with a ballest makes up for the waste of electricity that the transformer uses. The HPS and MH lights put out far more usable light than compared to a Florecent, There is nothing to be afraid of when using these big lights just be sure to use your head.. If you have a cluserfuck of a grow space and poor ventilation you have a much better chance of having a fire, so just be smart about the grow and do it right the first time, its always better.
If your growing in rubber maids, you would be using screw in style (Spiral) Florecents.. those new energy saver ones..
Go with the 1000wer, as long as you have the space thats what id use.. You could grow ur own veggies and all kinds of jazz..
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coda
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HID lights will give you the most lumens per square foot. They also put off crazy amounts of heat and can be a bit expensive to run(depending on how much you pay for energy). There have been some advances in the fluro world of growing tho, supposedly the new T5 ballasts put out a great amount of light, very little heat, and dont suck up nearly as much power as an HID would.
If i were you, i'd buy a switchable ballast, or just an HPS, in the 600 watt range.
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Magash
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There are a lot of decent floro's but to be honest I havent seen anything that puts out worth a shit yet. From what I've seen from T5s and cfl's they are good for very small plants seedlings and cuttings and not much else.
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LochRaven
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Re: MJ grow [Re: Magash]
#5763649 - 06/18/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i am aiming for a T5 fluoro. mainly because of heat and elec. and when the time comes new bulbs are cheap. using the warm 6500 Kelvin and the cool 3000Kelvin lights. i talked with someone who switched to the t5 after using HPS and MH with great results so i think that is what i am going to use. if any one has any recommendations on where to order from hit me up with a PM. thanks
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Magash
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Not being a asshole here but if your friend was able to keep up with his hps lights with T5's he didn't know how to set up his hps lights. All I know is since 1985 I haven't seen floro's do anything impressive. Plus just to put out the same light as hps or mh a floro would have to be over twice as powerful and still wouldn't be able to penetrate like a hps or mh would.
  Those are from 2000 watts of hid light. you would need more then 5000 watts of floro's to come close and you still wouldn't have buds on the lower parts of the plant that are worth a shit.
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coda
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Re: MJ grow [Re: Magash]
#5765383 - 06/18/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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magash: providing mastrubatory quality marijuana since 1985.
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LochRaven
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Re: MJ grow [Re: coda]
#5766991 - 06/19/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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coda said: magash: providing mastrubatory quality marijuana since 1985.

i think that the T5 will be do well for how i want to grow... it is going to be personal bud. and i think if i am growing a few plants i will have plenty. but i see what you mean by pointing out how much bigger the plants could grow and how it might be worth it. one thing about the T5 i like is how little heat it produces and the low costs it runs on.
how can i argue with those pictures though, damn you magash. i have your 4/20 post book marked. mmmm
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shack_grows
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Magash said: All I know is since 1985 I haven't seen floro's do anything impressive.
lol aww wut about my flouro grow then?

well just to add, i'd say use two pots. its easier to transplant without tearing one plant's root mass from the other's.
Edited by shack_grows (06/19/06 07:11 AM)
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thenewguy05
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Re: MJ grow [Re: Magash]
#5767651 - 06/19/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Magash said: Not being a asshole here but if your friend was able to keep up with his hps lights with T5's he didn't know how to set up his hps lights. All I know is since 1985 I haven't seen floro's do anything impressive. Plus just to put out the same light as hps or mh a floro would have to be over twice as powerful and still wouldn't be able to penetrate like a hps or mh would.
  Those are from 2000 watts of hid light. you would need more then 5000 watts of floro's to come close and you still wouldn't have buds on the lower parts of the plant that are worth a shit.
i totally agree. hid lighting is so much more productive for the money IMO.
i beleive if you are going with floro lighting then you are only planning on germinating seeds or rooting clones.
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LochRaven
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the roommate i speak of is not a problem... it is family. we love each other we just got a T5 and the plants are looking amazing. a few of the plants werent rooted and i didnt know. i had bought them as "rooted cuttings" if i would of known i would of thrown them in my cloning chamber.
when growing in a closet is it more important to just have the air moving around or the air being replaced with fresh air? i have a few small computer fans blowing on the plants and i open up the closet many times a day but that is it. i want to get a larger fan to be blowing in the closet but that is still to come.
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Magash
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you need to change the air. When the plants start to bud you'll have mold probs. With mj plants the more humid the environment the slower they grow.
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