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BMArts
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Tips tripp-sitting a first timer?
#5759684 - 06/17/06 02:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey guys... A friend of mine is gonna dose today for his first time. He's gonna do 40 grams fresh (about 3.2 dry) cubensis. He's been in a situation where he has not been much in contact with himself, been living in his head a lot and all together not perticularly happy with his mental condition or actual situation. He is hoping that a psychedelic experience out in nature will be an uplifting experience for him... he hopes to experience a spiritual trip becomming part of nature and opening up things inside of him realeasing emotion and just getting back in contact with other sides of him that he once knew (years ago when he was in to buddhism and meditated a lot).
From my experience (even though its possible to experience all that he wishes to experience) tripping for the reason to give you new light or hope to get yourself out of a hole doesn't really work. Or at least not for me... but you know he has to be responsible for himself and if he wants to try tripping its up to him, he is informed and has thought about it a lot. For him this is somewhat a desperate atempt but nevertheless... I'm hoping it'll be a posetiv experience. I'm gonna be taking care of him while we wonder of into the forest... Any tipps and thoughts are welcomed Peace
PS: just thought I'd mention I do have some experience trip-sitting in general and have myself taken mushrooms 4 or 5 times. But I know that this guy is perticularly worried about freaking out and stuff... the other ppl I trip sitted were all already experienced using shrooms and lsd... so if things start getting difficult for him what should I do?
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Edited by BMArts (06/17/06 03:04 AM)
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: BMArts]
#5759700 - 06/17/06 03:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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tripping could be exactly what he needs...or the exact opposite...its really hard to say man...its his call in the end, just make sure he knows what hes getting into
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5759723 - 06/17/06 03:33 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Firstly, I feel out of my own personal tolerance and experience, that 3.2 g fresh will bring him too high, too fast...If he isnt already familar with the intensity of psychedelic's he might lose sense of himself, though, with shrooms, its rather safe and most time results in very positive journies. If he is a mature and sensible person with perhaps a few negative issues, these wont "take over" the entire trip, though he will most probably have them come to the surface and it is in these moments that a person can truley understand it and look to make changes from the realisations. If your trip-siting, then you must be a good enough friend that he trusts..More like, do you trust him enough??
From what I've read the Trip-guide is basically there to stear the person in a gradual direction, keeping in mind that unless otherwise needed, should be his own steps. This might be a differnt thing though...II would think keeping the comfort, positive elements in check, if you need too... It'll work out fine...
Don't go into the forest during night while tripping, he most definatly will freak out, but during sun light hours is most rewarding, though I suggest bringing along certain neccesities because you both will want them no doubt. If he's really looking to do some self-examining, re-coloring, then bring along a note pad and pens...hmmmm, perhaps some fire-wood to start a small bom-fire...
Have fun.
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Edited by WIZOLZ (06/17/06 03:38 AM)
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: WIZOLZ]
#5759863 - 06/17/06 06:24 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks everyone for your replies... I'm off now. We're meeting up and gonna do it. BTW its afternoon tripping and its a bright sunny day... so perfect weather. The only issue that I wonder about is the trust. We aren't super close friends so I dunno I hope he'll be comfortable with it... but this could bring us closer together thats for sure. I have issues of my own to deal with and said that I'm going to try and keep out of the things he experiences so as to let him explore the state in peace without having to feel watched.. but I will be there to calm him down and to assure him it'll all be alright if its nesesairy.
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: BMArts]
#5760035 - 06/17/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I hope you lowered the dose. 40g fresh is more than I would advise for a first time.
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5761039 - 06/17/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well he tripped but very weakly... I dunno why but the shrooms didn't seem to kick in perticularly hard for him. It was more of a getting his feet wet than really experiencing a trip I think. I dunno but dosage is a really weird thing... Since I've been growing shrooms and feeding them to friends I've got the feeling of having discovered that dose is a very difficult thing to get right. There are so many factors... Anyway, we're gonna trip again tomorrow together. I'm taking 4.5 grams and he's gonna take a bit more to make up for tolorance... same batch of shrooms where 40 fresh didn't do much so obviously not perticularly strong ones, should all be good and if it does get a bit intense I'm sure he'll be able to handle it...
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: BMArts]
#5761645 - 06/17/06 07:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Strange. Did he fast for a couple of hours before hand?
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: cybrbeast]
#5763250 - 06/18/06 04:16 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes he did... I think a number of factors played a role. One of which even being my scale that wasn't calibrated right... I'm guessing he didn't eat as much as we though he had... still who knows. Today we're gonna trip together and we'll make sure to eat enough
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: BMArts]
#5763919 - 06/18/06 10:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mentality plays just as big a role as dose in my experience... Some trips are in your face and intense, others from the exact same batch, dose, etc have little more than a euphoric buzz on the same dose. If it's self discovery, etc that he's interesed in, expect him to want to wander off alone for a bit, if he's sensible and you trust him then let him.
Just make sure he realizes that he could be setting himself up for something very disturbing and he's willing to take that risk and accept whatever comes from it.
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: StickyWater]
#5764287 - 06/18/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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My fiancees first time was a lot like this. She was very wary of trying them, but wanted something to get her out of the rut she was in. She took 3.5 grams dried cubensis. As always especially with psychedelics the results vary from one extreme to the other, but she had a blast, still to this day that first time is the best experience in her life or so she claims. I don't really remember much about this night myself something about a coyote and a giant amanita muscaria but that was my trip. It changed her life and her views and psychedelics in my experience tend to do just that in a lot of people. It doesn't always work out for the best though If you are confident in your ability to help coach him thru the trip AND he trusts you then you should be okay with him eating that much. If he starts freaking out change the conditions. If the dark woods freak him out take him into a light room or change the environment in whatever ways you can. Make sure its a setting that whilst not tripping he'd feel comfortable in.
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5764705 - 06/18/06 03:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Iamthewalrus said: tripping could be exactly what he needs...or the exact opposite
indeed.. if this guy has been "living in his head" and has been havin some problems, maybe a trip isnt for him.
sitting tips?
ive tripped several times, and am kind of considered the psychedelic master.. ive had people straight up ask me if ill watch em while they trip, or ask if they can just trip at my house (its a very welcoming enviroment).. so as a nice guy i say yes.
tips: let them do what they want, to an extent yes, but most beshroomed people dont really want to do stupid things.
if he starts acting weird or sayin hes havin a bad trip, just remind him of what hes doin.. say "hey man, its just the shrooms." dont tell him hes havin a bad trip.. that can make things worse (i tripped with 3 buddies who were trippin for their first time.. one guy got hit hard by the shrooms and wanted to lay around and take it in.. the other guys were just tellin him hes havin a bad trip, i actaully yelled at the other 2 then.) help him outta his rut.. help him along the journey, tell him things are cool, things are normal, its only fun.
keep them entertained, either by some nice trippy media, or find something that is probably really fun/confusing while tripping (i like to turn on a reverse loop delay on my amp and play some trippy music on guitar)
mainly, just make sure ur havin fun urself, if ur bored and u put out some negative vibes, theyre gonna pick up on em.
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Re: Tips tripp-sitting a first timer? [Re: hippie_cune]
#5764725 - 06/18/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wouldn't recommend 3.5 grams fresh for him on his first time. It is a really confusing drug that can make you really weird at times, My first time i really got freaked when i was looking in the mirror to see if i could if anything was happening.. I didn't know what to expect. I looked in the mirror and when i turned away my face on the mirror stayed looking at me.. Well i freaked, until i realized that it was just the shrooms, then i kinda just hung out looking at things focusing on making em do things.. I'd say have him take 10g fresh just to see how it is going to be, and after it hits if he wants he could take more if everything is under control. Its just the initial shock of the trip that gets you..
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