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just wondering the advantages?
    #5757158 - 06/16/06 12:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

what is the advantages of the more simpler substrates. like WBS, BRF, Rye seed, ect. i've tried doing a search, but didn't find much. i know that HPoo and straw seem to be the best to use. but untill i get there, which seems to have better results and in what ways?

thanx for you info.


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Re: just wondering the advantages? [Re: sa_mull]
    #5757204 - 06/16/06 12:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What are referred to as 'grains' here (WBS, Rye, Millet, Corn, etc.) are much faster colonizers. The downside is they REQUIRE a PC. The pro guys here PC grains, colonize them, and then spawn those colonized grains to Hpoo, straw, or something similar. Once that is fully colonized, they add a 'casing' layer. This layer gaurds against contams directly in the substrate and provides moisture. This is called a 'bulk' method because it allows you to use a large quantity of substrate and get larger yields.

Some of them add semi-nutritious additives to the casing such as coconut coir. This is a more advanced technique and I suggest you avoid it on your first couple of bulk grows.

BRF is a surer technique due to the lack of exposure the substrate gets during the lifetime and proceedures of the substrate. It requires less tools but takes longer.

I would suggest stepping out of the forums a bit and taking a look at the basic cultivation tek's, FAQs, and guides so you can get a clearer picture of what the hell we're talking about.  :smile:

You'll find this information in the very top left of this webpage under 'mushroom information -> growing mushrooms'. Read everything under that and you will have many answers to the questions you haven't even asked yet.


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Re: just wondering the advantages? [Re: cappa]
    #5757241 - 06/16/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have read a ton of them. mostly the simpler grain ones. but i wanted to know if certain grains produced better yeilds or not. but i guessing they don't. as of right now i'm doing well with rye seed, so i'mguessing i should stick to that and not worry about tring WBS, if i'mjust growing small casings


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Re: just wondering the advantages? [Re: sa_mull]
    #5757490 - 06/16/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Alot of people have great success with rye. In fact, it's one of the components of most wild bird seed. I think alot of growers go with WBS because it's so cheap.

I've been wanted to test out some rye only jars myself. Guess I'll have to find a hookup for it around here. My tests with safflower and sunflower seeds only BLOW! I highly don't recommend those spawn substrates.

Going to do cracked corn, dehydrated corn, and rye next.

Sorry for the ramble, I think the coffee's kicking in.


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Re: just wondering the advantages? [Re: cappa]
    #5757502 - 06/16/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I get my rye at the health food store. $1.15 a pound. I have done rye and wbs and I have not seen alot of difference in colonization times.


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Re: just wondering the advantages? [Re: kilroy]
    #5757507 - 06/16/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Thx for the tip there kilroy! You da man!


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