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Asante
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Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy...
#5756584 - 06/16/06 08:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You take fresh horsepoo, without pasteurization or other fancy techniques you mix it with fast-colonizing Cubensis grain spawn, then put it in a shallow tub in an enviroment conductive to mushroom growth...
Make an educated guess about what will happen. With this poll you do not have to vote to see the results, so only vote if you're pretty damn sure.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: Asante]
#5756591 - 06/16/06 08:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shrooms grow in the wild outside. Why not inside.
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Asante
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: KaptKid]
#5756603 - 06/16/06 08:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly my thoughts, but how do people estimate the chances for success? I'm looking at all kinds of substrates and TEKs here on the boards to see if a tek can be concocted that beats all as to simplicity.
The more I read about it, the more I get the impression that fresh horsepoo might be one of the simplest bulk substrates out there, coming pre-moistened and semi-pasteurized through massive undergrowths of harmless micro-organisms.
Jar --> Horsepoo looks very straightforward, I'm curious how people think the chances are for this to work.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: KaptKid]
#5756673 - 06/16/06 09:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know, I'd be skeptical about that, because youre not going to have all the organisms inside in your grow that would be present outside, and the environmental conditions wouldnt be the same... all the same, I'd like to know how it turns out. Dragon
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: DragonChaser]
#5756728 - 06/16/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Isn't the problem that there is too much ammonia that would inhibit mycellium growth?
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ohmatic
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hmm, if you take the fresh 'n slimey pies i guess it would not be a nice job to mix them with spawn ..
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KaptKid said: Shrooms grow in the wild outside. Why not inside.
whereas this is right, you need to think of what happens in "the wild outside". the poo drops, its getting sundried, leached by the rain, then someday some spores drop on it and grow - they will not oclonise the fresh shit, its way to hot.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: ohmatic]
#5756966 - 06/16/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You would get one flush.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: mikeownow]
#5756975 - 06/16/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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mikeownow said: You would get one flush.
like you could predict that.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: Asante]
#5756997 - 06/16/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have examined fresh horse manure before. When you break open a fresh horse poo it is an olive green color. Maybe that means its too N hot? Also if you've ever noticed fresh horse manure goes through a contamination bloom faze. The poo gets covered in all kinds of different molds, then it dries up.
If you took fresh manure inside without pasteurizing it will contaminate like theres no tomorrow.
Sun dried, leeched manure re-moistened is very contamination resistant though.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: Psychoslut]
#5757011 - 06/16/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said: If you took fresh manure inside without pasteurizing it will contaminate like theres no tomorrow.
Sun dried, leeched manure re-moistened is very contamination resistant though.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: ohmatic]
#5757032 - 06/16/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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One time I loaded my pickup with fresh horse manure from some stalls. I took it home and put it on my compost pile. The next day I went and checked on it and every turd was covered in green mold and other molds. I was like god dammit ill never be able to use this. But I spread it out on a tarp and sun dried it then sprayed it down with the hose a few times and dried it again and it ended up working great.
I wonder if the poo getting covered in mold then the mold dying is a natural thing that happens every time or if it happened because I piled it all up and water and tilled it
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: Asante]
#5757358 - 06/16/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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----->You take fresh horsepoo, without pasteurization or other fancy techniques you mix it with fast-colonizing Cubensis grain spawn, then put it in a shallow tub in an enviroment conductive to mushroom growth...<-----
Fresh h/poo is saturated with bacteria,and contains large amounts of urine like substance. Once excreted, it goes through a bacterial bloom. Then, the urine content turns to ammonia.
NEITHER of which are conducive to colonization by fungi mycelium.
Once the bacterial bloom is over AND the ammonia has dissipated. The h/poo would be susceptible to fungi mycelium colonization. Excepting that, at that stage, h/poo is also susceptible to infestation by nematodes, gnats, insect larva, etc. All of which, would be detrimental to 100% mycelium colonization, as it has to much competition.
Consequently, I believe spawning fresh h/poo, is a waste of spawn.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: Tippinthru]
#5757404 - 06/16/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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100% chance of contamination.
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ohmatic
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: Tippinthru]
#5757420 - 06/16/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tippinthru said: Consequently, I believe spawning fresh h/poo, is a waste of spawn.
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Re: Fresh horsepoo, nothing fancy... [Re: ohmatic]
#5757630 - 06/16/06 02:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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especially since fresh hpoo is usually soaked in amonia from the horses urine. Also, who wants to go and fuck with fresh nasty horse shit?
IMO this experiment is doomed to fail (and extremely messy)
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