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inski
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Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species.
#5754875 - 06/15/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Greetings fellow Mycologists  inski sr had a very interesting find the other day, these beautifully coloured mushrooms of which i'm sure are from the Coprinus genus.





 He found these fruiting from rotted leaf litter under native bush in New Zealand.
Caps. Average diameter 30-40mm, Conical in shape. Colour is an orange-brown with dark brown or black fibrills. Stipe. Diameter 4-5mm, 45-50mm long. colour is a darker red-brown with white fibrills. Gills. Not attached. Colour is a very bright orange-salmon turning black as the spores mature. Spores. Black.
Another observation was that these don't exhibit the autodigestion process as strongly as the other Coprinus species. Amazing colours!!! Any ideas greatly appreciated, thanks! inski
Edited by inski (06/15/06 11:55 PM)
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: inski]
#5755727 - 06/15/06 11:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some unreal colouration on that beast  Amazing pics inski - never fail to dissappoint. What megapixel/camera do you use? I've got a bit of cash now and am perhaps looking for a good camera.
I'll be nominating pic 4 in the next months competition
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: Feelers]
#5755760 - 06/15/06 11:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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WOAH! That's insane! Who knew how impressive a mere ink cap could be... I have never seen anything like it. Great pics!!!
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inski
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: Feelers]
#5755777 - 06/15/06 11:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi Feelers  Yes very nice colouration, I hope other peoples monitors show the colours like I see them here! The camera is a Fujifilm Finepix S7000, 6.3 megapixel. Cheers for the nom!!! Does anyone have any ideas for these ones? inski.
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inski
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: CureCat]
#5755807 - 06/15/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know what you mean, does anyone think these colours could be to attract certain insects to help with spore dispersal? The cut specimens we have turned black but didn't turn to black liquid like most ink caps making it easy to keep dried specimens for id purposes! inski.
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: inski]
#5756080 - 06/16/06 01:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: CureCat]
#5756120 - 06/16/06 02:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It looks like some sort of Black Forest Ham!
-------------------- "GULF COAST TEXAS SYRINGE! EVERYTHING IS BIG IN TEXAS! Dear Keeper, I send you these pictures and spores so you may pass on this wonderful strain to the world! My cat accidentally ate a spore print and washed it down with 'Keepers Brew' when I wasn't looking. He took a 'DUMP' in your Kit A and before I new what had happened I found these monsters! WHAT THE HELL IS IN THAT BREW!?!? $35.00 + S/H " - SporeTradingPost's 'Keeper': douchebag of the century! [a not so cleverly fabricated testimonial for his website that is only effective in making even his pretend customers look like morons]
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: TonyMontana]
#5756230 - 06/16/06 03:36 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: CureCat]
#5756507 - 06/16/06 08:10 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good work CureCat  That definately looks like them! not a Coprinus after all  Thanks for the id. inski.
Edited by inski (06/16/06 08:18 AM)
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: inski]
#5756841 - 06/16/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah man... but your pics are MUCH cooler!
When someone next is looking to publish an NZ mycology book they'll be contacting you no doubt, heh.
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: inski]
#5757244 - 06/16/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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HI, I do not think those are Coprinus. Maybe a Hygrocybe species.
Sorry,
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: mjshroomer]
#5757296 - 06/16/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
mjshroomer said: HI, I do not think those are Coprinus. Maybe a Hygrocybe species.
Sorry,
mj
"Bertrandia astatogala, formerly known as Hygrocybe astatogala."
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: CureCat]
#5757896 - 06/16/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
CureCat said: Hey! I think I found it!!!
Bertrandia astatogala, formerly known as Hygrocybe astatogala
http://www.kaimaibush.co.nz/Fungi/Bertrandia.html
http://nzphoto.tripod.com/3dfungi/Basidio/Agaric/bertrandia_astatogala.htm
Another complex I.D. accomplished......even with inncorrect spore print color submitted .....yeah Inski's always reelin in the bizzare from the far reaches of the bush......got the eye.....I hope he has documented and preserved several of them......can see how those blackening bruising gills can trick ya into thinking quikly maturing black spores of ink caps...
maaaaayyybe Coprinus maaayybe????  Naw 
and in case anyone missed this beautiful monster from another of inskis incursions into the bush.....an especially trippy strange variety of Lepidella (Amanita) nauseosa which smells as strange as it looks.
-------------------- Worlds Largest 'Liberty Cap' (Cali Libs Confirmed !) ' Comments On Hallucinogenic Agarics And The Hallucinations Of Those Who Study Them ' Alexander H. Smith Mycologia vol.69 1977
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inski
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: shroominDole]
#5758338 - 06/16/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha now I see what happened, when I made the print it looked like a very faint black spore print but looking at it again it must have been from the black inky bruising that Bertrandia astatogala exhibits Must be more carefull in the future!!! I'm on my way back for some more specimens so I can make some new prints on black paper or foil! Thanks for the id on that white one shroominDole, I have preserved specimens of most of the interesting finds I've made and am in the process of documenting them all inski.
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: inski]
#5759109 - 06/16/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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will you try growing any of them??
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: CureCat]
#5763316 - 06/18/06 05:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm in the middle of a few ongoing experiments at the moment but there is one that I need to concentrate on which I think could be cultivated indoors. This one still hasn't been properly identified but I suspect it to be Psilocybe caerulipes.
 I've found that the mycelium from these mushrooms grows quite well on sterilized corn! I'll get round to posting in the cult forum sometime in the near future  inski.
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: inski]
#5771441 - 06/20/06 03:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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How did we survive....
Edited by Horseonsandhill (06/20/06 04:33 AM)
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: ]
#5771446 - 06/20/06 03:59 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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check out these crazy gills.... this is feral, cant beleive consumption was succsessful after finding out they are deadly?!!!
Edited by Horseonsandhill (06/20/06 04:30 AM)
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inski
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: ]
#5771506 - 06/20/06 04:58 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont think they're deadly,you'd be dead  Very lucky. Please post pics and a good description before consuming any mushrooms! Happy hunting, be carefull. inski.
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Re: Help with id of very colourfull Coprinus species. [Re: inski]
#5771538 - 06/20/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very VEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRYYYYYYY LUCKY !!!!i will never again consume an unknown species Inski...ive checked out lots of your posts. Good stuff, i love how quick a response this has been... they definitely have a buzz all of there own.. thats for sure... im not planning on ingesting this EvER Again... Once is enough... however someone else might like to try. although i would not reccomend it after the reading ive just done on them. although we survived our ingestion with noticeable effects, produced right after ingestion.. others May not/would not survive and there for maybe this mushroom is best left un consumed by even the most confident of shroom consumers...
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