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76degrees
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I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions
#5753821 - 06/15/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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1) while sterilizing the substrate in a pot/pressure cooker, should the jar lids be screwed down tight or loose?
2) when waiting for 3 days to be sure the substrate has been properly sterilized, should they be stored in the dark?
I either found conflicting information on these points or not enough information. Help appreciated.
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: 76degrees]
#5753858 - 06/15/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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dont wait 3 days to be sure the substrate has been properly sterilized
lids loose then tighten them when you remove (still hot)
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5753888 - 06/15/06 02:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was wondering about the 3 days thing too.. There's no advantage to that? Any disadvantages?
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: Psiloptile]
#5753900 - 06/15/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was wondering about the 3 days thing too.. There's no advantage to that? Any disadvantages?
If the directions for sterilization are followed then the jars will be ok. No testing is necessary. It only wastes three days that could of been spent colonizing the jars.
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: 76degrees]
#5753920 - 06/15/06 03:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lid doesn't really mater, I think its all rumors.
I don't wait 3 days don't know were that idea came from.
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: mikeownow]
#5754040 - 06/15/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the 3 days thing came from someone listening to Jane's Addiction while they were making their jars. -Me
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76degrees
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: JoeMama]
#5754278 - 06/15/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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3 days is listed in a few teks as an optional step if you want to make sure your substrate is ok after sterilizing. Shroom Wizard is one of those teks. And the reason I asked about the lids is because the first time I tried, I didn't have the proper jars/lids and my substrates ended up too wet and all them failed. This time around I had the proper jars and left the lids on tight. However, one of the lids was not tight and I can see the substrate was ruined.
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: 76degrees]
#5754389 - 06/15/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Three days BS Just don't tighten lids "tight" or they will be harder to get off when birthing because when the metal lids cool they shrink and they will get quite tight. GL
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: 76degrees]
#5754410 - 06/15/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I say tighten the lids somewhat. Not too tight though as mentioned. A lot of people used to say that you had to have the holes in the lids untaped and/or that you should turn the lids upside down so they don't seal the jars up, or that you had to leave the rings loose or your jars would explode. All of that is false. You can crank the lids down as tight as you want. You're not going to cause any problems as long as you do the PCing right. i.e. Don't remove the weight until it's depressurized at a normal rate.
As for waiting 3 days. It IS a good idea if you have any sterilization problems. If you wait a few days you'll find out which ones didn't sterilize properly. If you're getting many jars going bad then you need to find out why. Waiting 3 days will help you figure out if it's your PCing or your inoculating. If it's your PCing then you also need to start waiting 3 days to catch the bad jars or else improve you PC method somehow.
I wouldn't waste the three days though unless you don't think you can do it right.
5 shrooms to start you off and for not asking the same questions that get asked three times a day and are covered in every tek written.
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76degrees
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Re: I read all the teks twice and I still have a few questions [Re: fastfred]
#5754460 - 06/15/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot FF. I get the impression you know exactly what you are talking about. I feel a little silly for splitting the questions up under different posts which resulted in nothing but confusion for myself. However, you've put me at ease. I'll wait two more days before inoculating. I'm pretty sure everything went ok, but since last time was a disaster (mostly due to improper tools/equipment) I want to take every pre-caution this time. Thanks again, espesially for the useful info but also for the 5 shrooms.
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