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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Basilides]
    #5763327 - 06/18/06 05:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm afraid there is. Either the black race is predisposed to criminal behavior or this is simply related to sociological factors. It's either sociological or biological. Do you know sociological means?




I'm still sticking with "unknown".  You'd make a great Christian with your "us/them" viewpoint, by the way.
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And your reason for that is?




Brace yourself.... it's because I don't know!  People have to admit that blacks commit much more crimes than whites, and that poor blacks commit not only more crimes but more atrocious crimes, on the whole, than white people do.  Do I think that it's genetic?  I'm 98.99% sure that it's not, it just seems to devalue human existance if we are all programmed to do things.  Do I think that it could stem from most blacks being raised in horrible homes with a lacking male parent that properly instills decent moral values?  Yes, I'd say thats a large part of it.  Can I say definiativly either way? Negative.
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You hate blacks in general. Minutes ago in another forum you called me a "nigger lover". :rolleyes:




OTD =! PAL  I thought I'm supposed to be the one making ignorant generalizations, not you.
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"Unknown" is a non-answer. It's willful ignorance, as you simply do not want to admit that you don't like black people. If it's not sociological, you are only left with biological predisposition.



If I didn't like black people, I'd admit it.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5763353 - 06/18/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm still sticking with "unknown". You'd make a great Christian with your "us/them" viewpoint, by the way.

You don't follow well, do you?

Brace yourself.... it's because I don't know! People have to admit that blacks commit much more crimes than whites, and that poor blacks commit not only more crimes but more atrocious crimes, on the whole, than white people do. Do I think that it's genetic? I'm 98.99% sure that it's not, it just seems to devalue human existance if we are all programmed to do things. Do I think that it could stem from most blacks being raised in horrible homes with a lacking male parent that properly instills decent moral values? Yes, I'd say thats a large part of it. Can I say definiativly either way? Negative.

If you don't believe it's biologically predisposed, then that only leaves you with socio-economic factors. You even mentioned the word "poor". So why all the hate, to be frank? Your flagrant racism seemingly has nothing to back it up, unsurprisingly.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Basilides]
    #5763387 - 06/18/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think he likes schwoogies.  :shrug:


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Basilides]
    #5763435 - 06/18/06 06:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"flagrant racism"? My suspicions, that were proved to be correct for the record, were that this crime was commited by black people. I was right. Thats hardly "racist".


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5763853 - 06/18/06 10:13 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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You don't know the difference between hip hop and gangsta rap? Gongrats, you're real smart.




*Congrats

Yea, I guess taking advanced chemistry and electronics courses were a waste of money when I could have studied "Nigga Music one-oh-mutha-fuckin-one" When americans judge peoples intellect based on their knowledge of late 20th century black music, it's a clear sign of the times.
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I say put all murderers into prison facilities that brainwash the inmates. Have them attend classes in the prisons, teach them how to behave. Shit, teach them k-12. Then release them under supervision and support them.



So, he commits a crime, and I pay for his education (again, most likely) and supervision and whatever "support" means? A rope is much cheaper, quicker, and it's reusuable justice!
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However, this might cost more but hey, you can also go the easy way and send them to prison for life or kill them and then get more inmates, YAY.



Oh great Oracle of Mental Ability, tell this ignorant peon that can't tell fiddy cent and JaRule apart how killing criminals equals more inmates?





You had to to pay for college? LOL. I am going into biochem and I don't pay a cent for my university, they pay for it all and then send me money into my checking account, LOL.

Oh and buddy, paying for a part of his education doesn't mean you paid for all of it. Shit, currently you shouldn't even mention education in this country. Don't talk about it like it is some top education, ever.

Point is, wherever there are uneducated and unemployed people there will be crime. Just like my Dad made bootleg beer and sold it on the street and his partner went to jail. Just like almost all of my dad's friends went to jail because after the Soviet Union collapsed a lot of people turned to crime, especially the Spetznaz, they are the Russian Mafia.
Who did you think the Russian mob was? They lost their jobs after the USSR collapsed and creating an organized crime network seemed like a good idea.


Also, check the crime rates of areas that ban the death penalty and then start it again; very interesting.

Also, by not "brainwashing" the criminals and sending them out into the streets their ranks will be filled by more criminals. An on going cycle of crime, sweet. Like with Tookie who started writing children's books and preaching against violence. The guy started the Crips and now he's preaching non-violence? He could have been used to stop more kids from joining gangs. Come on, haven't you read 1984?


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5764809 - 06/18/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Brace yourself.... it's because I don't know! People have to admit that blacks commit much more crimes than whites, and that poor blacks commit not only more crimes but more atrocious crimes, on the whole, than white people do. Do I think that it's genetic? I'm 98.99% sure that it's not, it just seems to devalue human existance if we are all programmed to do things. Do I think that it could stem from most blacks being raised in horrible homes with a lacking male parent that properly instills decent moral values? Yes, I'd say thats a large part of it. Can I say definiativly either way? Negative.




I actually agree with you - lack of opportunity, erosion of the core family unit, and shit culture and shit education = crime and general acceptance of this such crimes as normal.

I am not sure, however, that blacks commit more "atrocious" crimes than whites - do you have a source for this?


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Vvellum]
    #5764827 - 06/18/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I am not sure, however, that blacks commit more "atrocious" crimes than whites - do you have a source for this?



Statistically, whites are more likely to be serial killers. Blacks have many gang murders, but they don't have many Jeffrey Dahmers


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Silversoul]
    #5764830 - 06/18/06 03:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, that's probably correct.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: downforpot]
    #5765198 - 06/18/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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You had to to pay for college? LOL.




While I actually didn't say that I did, yes, I did. I didn't "have to", I guess I've just got something against taking a handout. I'm sure that your knowledge of urban ghetto music probably qualified you for the Home Diggity Dawg scholarship fund, sadly my ignorance excluded me from that prestigious alotment of money. Also, your logic button seems to be broken. Even if I'd spend scholarship money on the classes that were useless, it would still be wasting it, yes?
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I am going into biochem and I don't pay a cent for my university, they pay for it all and then send me money into my checking account, LOL.




I didn't come from an "economically disadvantaged family". Also, the US Government paid for (part of) mine to thank me for my military service.
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Also, by not "brainwashing" the criminals and sending them out into the streets their ranks will be filled by more criminals. An on going cycle of crime, sweet. Like with Tookie who started writing children's books and preaching against violence. The guy started the Crips and now he's preaching non-violence? He could have been used to stop more kids from joining gangs. Come on, haven't you read 1984?



So if Hitler had been captured and written some kiddie books about how gassing Jews is bad, then you'd push for his release? I'm just saddened that Tookie commited his crimes in America where we couldn't turn his execution into a five day long spectator sport.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Vvellum]
    #5765204 - 06/18/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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I actually agree with you - lack of opportunity, erosion of the core family unit, and shit culture and shit education = crime and general acceptance of this such crimes as normal.

I am not sure, however, that blacks commit more "atrocious" crimes than whites - do you have a source for this?



Nope, I don't. If someone posted a news article about a murderer who was kidnapping gay lovers and torturing them for days before killing them, I'd most likely assume that it was a white person. I don't know why blacks are more inclined towards violence relating to property crimes and most "serial killers" seem to be white, but it does seem to hold up. Again, we can't forget that my prediction was totally correct.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Silversoul]
    #5765208 - 06/18/06 05:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Statistically, whites are more likely to be serial killers. Blacks have many gang murders, but they don't have many Jeffrey Dahmers




I don't think that is true. You don't have to have some weird pathology behind your murders to be a serial killer, I think that the FBI requirements are that you've killed more than three people at more than one time. I'd say that numerous gang members probably fit that criterea. Since most gangland murders don't get solved, it's hard to say how many are truely "serial killers". The blacks that perpetrated this crime that we are discussing would NOT be considered serial killers, unless it was proven that they've killed people before they did this. The movies put the idea in peoples heads that serial killers have to be reasonably educated white males who like planting little clues to play with the authorities, I think thats very far from the truth.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5765346 - 06/18/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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So if Hitler had been captured and written some kiddie books about how gassing Jews is bad, then you'd push for his release? I'm just saddened that Tookie commited his crimes in America where we couldn't turn his execution into a five day long spectator sport.





Yep. I am Jewish too, my granpa died in Berlin during the last days of the war.

And guess what, we still have Nazis that worship Hitler. Sweet, we made him into a martyr. We should have made sure that he didn't blow his brains out before we got to him.




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While I actually didn't say that I did, yes, I did. I didn't "have to", I guess I've just got something against taking a handout. I'm sure that your knowledge of urban ghetto music probably qualified you for the Home Diggity Dawg scholarship fund, sadly my ignorance excluded me from that prestigious alotment of money. Also, your logic button seems to be broken. Even if I'd spend scholarship money on the classes that were useless, it would still be wasting it, yes?
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So studying chemistry and biology is useless?

Man you sound like this kid back at my school. He got socked in the party for talking like you, meh. I had to add that cause damn there are a lot of people on here like that kid.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5766284 - 06/19/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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"flagrant racism"?  My suspicions, that were proved to be correct for the record, were that this crime was commited by black people.  I was right.  Thats hardly "racist".




Calling someone a "nigger lover" sounds like racist sentiment to me  :rolleyes:


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Basilides]
    #5766327 - 06/19/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

OTD doesn't count.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5766356 - 06/19/06 12:43 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Hey - you said it. No use in your trying backpedal. I think it's fairly obvious you hold some animosity towards blacks. It's just sad that you attempt to masquerade everything you stand for when people call you out on it. A bit thin skinned are we? :shrug:


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5767339 - 06/19/06 09:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

3 escape murder charges in carjacking!!!!



"Harris County prosecutors decided to file aggravated Robbery charges in a deadly carjacking because the evidence did not show the attackers intended to kill a girl, a key element for a murder charge, officials said."

"just a crime spree."

They beat up and attacked a family, threw a two year old down on the pavement, jumped in the family's car, and ran over and killed the two-year-old...but they didn't mean to kill her?

I am sure they were good boys.....and will do about 5 years in prison.

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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5767476 - 06/19/06 10:05 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Sure lonestar, after all, it's our white oppression that made them do this. If it weren't for <insert liberal lie here> then clearly this wouldn't have happend! Sensitivity training for the remaining family members, then a large lawsuit from the "Criminals" for being oppressed and 'forced' to commit such crimes in order to survive in the harsh realities of an impoverish ghetto.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5767555 - 06/19/06 10:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Sure lonestar, after all, it's our white oppression that made them do this.  If it weren't for <insert liberal lie here> then clearly this wouldn't have happend! Sensitivity training for the remaining family members, then a large lawsuit from the "Criminals" for being oppressed and 'forced' to commit such crimes in order to survive in the harsh realities of an impoverish ghetto.



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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Silversoul]
    #5767864 - 06/19/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Typical hand of the white man, what are you doing, holding the leash on some black slave or something?

I hope that these murderers get strung up from a pole, be it by the cops, the 'justice' system or outraged citizens.


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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5769144 - 06/19/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Avoiding my response again?

Wow, you're too easy in a debate.


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