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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
#5754221 - 06/15/06 04:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank God the founding fathers abandoned your medieval attitude.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
#5754276 - 06/15/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That should be repealed. Anyone convicted beyond a doubt of a violent crime should suffer a fate 10x worse IMO. There are too many low life pieces of shit in this country.
I also think any and all known gang members should be executed on sight.
yeah, ok Stalin. whatever you want.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Vvellum]
#5754591 - 06/15/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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bi0 said:
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That should be repealed. Anyone convicted beyond a doubt of a violent crime should suffer a fate 10x worse IMO. There are too many low life pieces of shit in this country.
I also think any and all known gang members should be executed on sight.
yeah, ok Stalin. whatever you want.
No flaming in here.
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Basilides
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: lonestar2004]
#5754735 - 06/15/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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lonestar2004 said: When lynching died out, so did deterrent.
This has to be the lowest comment you have ever made during your tenure at the Shroomery
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Basilides]
#5754782 - 06/15/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Basilides said:
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lonestar2004 said: When lynching died out, so did deterrent.
This has to be the lowest comment you have ever made during your tenure at the Shroomery
If only that were true.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
#5754839 - 06/15/06 07:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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maybe you should shoot me.
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Seuss
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: blacksabbathrulz]
#5754934 - 06/15/06 07:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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> Anyone convicted beyond a doubt of a violent crime should suffer a fate 10x worse IMO.
Unfortunately, it is all too common for an innocent person to be convicted of a crime they did not commit. We we take an eye for an eye, the world goes blind.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Vvellum]
#5755159 - 06/15/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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bi0 said: so, you believe in state-sanctioned revenge?
Yes I do. Fuck the murderers who have no respect for your life or anybody elses.
When we lock people up for auto theft, is that also state sanctioned revenge?
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Silversoul]
#5755250 - 06/15/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: No, they should be locked away where they can't harm anyone. Vengeance gets us nowhere.
Tax payers should not have to foot the bill for scum like this to exist.
The reason the death penalty isn't a good deterrent is because it isn't public any longer. The death of these types of people is meant to warn others of the consequences of their actions. People who have already committed these types of crimes no long deserve to breath air. The only good that they can bring is to serve as an example of what is waiting for others who might follow in their footsteps.
The men who committed the crimes described above have relinquished their right to coexist with human beings.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: lonestar2004]
#5755561 - 06/15/06 10:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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About 10% through this, I said "I bet the perpetrators were black". How sad.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5755610 - 06/15/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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xDuckYouSuckerx said: About 10% through this, I said "I bet the perpetrators were black". How sad.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: RandalFlagg]
#5755651 - 06/15/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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that is one fucked up story. i honestly don't know what i would do if i were in that situation and my daughter were killed by two random strangers who will probably never be caught (for that particular crime anyway).
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: SuperD]
#5756008 - 06/16/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know what I'd do and it would involve lots and lots of dead BG's
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5756269 - 06/16/06 04:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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> About 10% through this, I said "I bet the perpetrators were black". How sad.
A much more valid thought would have been, "I bet the perpetrators were poor." It is more likely that poverty was the motivating factor rather than race. When the majority of a race is in poverty, it is easier to justify ones stereotypical prejudices.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Seuss]
#5756297 - 06/16/06 05:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was right, right? I don't see how poverty leads to murder, really. If someone said that poor were more likely to steal bread or fish to feed their families, well, Ok, I'd give them that. But saying that being poor makes you want to throw kids out of a car, run them over, steal the car and ditch it 5 miles down the road? Thats a bit of a stretch. I didn't grow up poor but I had friends that did and not a one of them ever did shit like this.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5756345 - 06/16/06 05:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If your assertion is that a certain race is more prone to crime than others, please verify this with some scientific proof. Social considerations would probably go against what you just contended here, so I expect some flat out, biological evidence here. I'm waiting.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: Basilides]
#5756368 - 06/16/06 06:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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That blacks commit more crimes, per capita, than whites? Are you serious?
Now, the REASON for that is the unknown. I'm not saying that it's genetic, it's just that "poverty" is such a bullshit excuse. The line of thinking "Gosh, I'm poor, maybe I should join a gang and massacre people, steal cars and kill babies" just doesn't cut the mustard.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5756392 - 06/16/06 06:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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For the argument that execution will not teach the perps a lesson, I argue that nobody expects them to either way. Dead, they are relinquished of the responsibility for their unforgivable crimes, and society is relinquished from the future consequences of allowing them continuity among it.
violent offenders that totally lack dignity habitually abbandon the quality we as society ought to exclusively attribute "humanity" to, tand therefore, ought to be denied existance, for, it is the nature of ALL life to protect itself by removing virulently diseased members of its populace.
as for the argument that they are merely victims of a greater social status quo, what are you going to do? imprison all the good people?
you get rid of dangerous people. dont keep them around.
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Basilides
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5756397 - 06/16/06 06:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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xDuckYouSuckerx said: That blacks commit more crimes, per capita, than whites? Are you serious?
Now, the REASON for that is the unknown. I'm not saying that it's genetic, it's just that "poverty" is such a bullshit excuse. The line of thinking "Gosh, I'm poor, maybe I should join a gang and massacre people, steal cars and kill babies" just doesn't cut the mustard.
Socio-economic factors seem like a more logical and rational estimation than suggesting it is biological.
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Re: Carjackers Kill Baby, Steal Family's Car [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
#5756643 - 06/16/06 09:21 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You have to be MagicalMystery.
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