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R to the izzo and an antibiotic secretion puddle, heehee
    #5752511 - 06/15/06 06:49 AM (18 years, 17 days ago)

Like the roots? Should I dab that myc piss with a paper towel or somethin?



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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: MasFina]
    #5752695 - 06/15/06 08:12 AM (18 years, 17 days ago)

I believe you are refering to the metabolic byproducts :P lol

But ya it doesn't look very aesthetic so personally I'd dab it up with a tissue.

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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: iamyour_messiah]
    #5752720 - 06/15/06 08:24 AM (18 years, 17 days ago)

Is that very safe to do?
I have a project im getting ready to case and was worried about attempting to remove the biproducts.
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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: DragonChaser]
    #5752759 - 06/15/06 08:38 AM (18 years, 17 days ago)

Well I dunno to be honest. I was told that the byproducts are formed in response to bacterial presence in order to fight/ward them off. That being the case you would think if you get rid of the stuff your casing would be more vulerable to infection or whatever. But I would say it depends on how much moisture is actually building up. A few drops of yellow liquid might not be a problem, but if you've got pools of it on the surface I would imagine that does more damage than good.

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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: iamyour_messiah]
    #5752767 - 06/15/06 08:42 AM (18 years, 17 days ago)

looks like something died in that container
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byproducts can get messy


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: iamyour_messiah]
    #5752799 - 06/15/06 08:54 AM (18 years, 17 days ago)

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I believe you are refering to the metabolic byproducts :P lol





there has been differing debates surrounding what this stuff actually is. Some of the stronger more developed claims are that it is a reaction to a bacterial presence in the mycelium. Ask Rodger.


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: Tweexican]
    #5754106 - 06/15/06 04:10 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

Well I hope not. If it shows contamination I'll let ya know.


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: MasFina]
    #5754128 - 06/15/06 04:16 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

that mycelium looks dead. it got too hot or you sprayed it with too strong of peroxide solution


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: Psychoslut]
    #5754371 - 06/15/06 05:25 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

Nice looking rhizomorphic mycelium there. In a few days it will be ready for the casing layer. You can just dump the casing right on top of the myc, metabolytes and all. I used to use the corner of a paper towel to dab up the excess but no longer do. It spreads out into the casing layer fine, possibly even offering protection. I've dumped metabloytes onto bacteral contaminated petri dishes and it kills the bacteria dead.
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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5754409 - 06/15/06 05:32 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

a thoughtless reaction told me to taste it one time. It was tasteless.


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[quote]KristiMidocean said:
Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5754415 - 06/15/06 05:33 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

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I've dumped metabloytes onto bacteral contaminated petri dishes and it kills the bacteria dead.
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That sounds very very interesting, the implications, could this possibility help with overcoming contams, in jars or cases, could it be saved, or even with the intent to harvest it?


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5754453 - 06/15/06 05:41 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

To what end? Some native people piss on their feet to help with problems or even brush their teeth with urine, but I wouldn't recommend it. It's not normally considered good to consume your own urine, that's basically what you would be doing if you used it on mycelium.


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: fastfred]
    #5754459 - 06/15/06 05:43 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

Not even close, in this case waist is not piss.


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5754479 - 06/15/06 05:46 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

what are metabloytes?

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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: accesstwo]
    #5754495 - 06/15/06 05:50 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

Check this out, for a general description,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolite hope that helps :wink:


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5754511 - 06/15/06 05:54 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

You could transfer the metabolites from one area of the casing to an area with contams to try to kill or slow them.


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]

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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5754538 - 06/15/06 05:56 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

> Not even close, in this case waist is not piss.

Piss is a good analogy for it. Urine or piss is the liquid metabolic wasteproduct that a respiring life form produces. Usually you think of animals, but it's at least analogous to waste products produced by other organisms. It's excreted and removed because it is toxic to the organism producing it.

I disagree that it's a response to bacteria, but I could be wrong. It's produced just as much under sterile conditions. It's probably toxic to bacteria simply because it's a toxic waste product.


> And you should thank RR for your avatar

And I have thanked RR several times for my avatar pic. It's one of the coolest pics I've seen, and he's cool with me using it. Thanks again RR.


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: fastfred]
    #5754941 - 06/15/06 07:40 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

Mushroom mycelium secretions do not equate to human urine in any way, shape or form. That is disinformation and it makes the hair on my neck stand on end when I see it constantly repeated. They are unrelated. In fact, the secretions from many fungi are used to make antibiotics. Read up on the production of penicillin, tetracycline, erythromycin and other antibiotics that are made from the secretions of fungi. This has been known for a long time in professional circles. For some reason, people around here keep repeating the same old 'mushroom piss' crap and others read it and repeat it ad nauseum. The secretions, which contain acetone and other volatile compounds can actually be fermented and distilled out of the liquid culture the fungi mycelium is being grown in. In commercial penicillin production, large fermentation tanks of over 30,000 gallons are common. It is not the penicillium mold itself that they make penicillin from, but its secretions. Please stop using urine as an analogy for the antibiotic secretions of our precious fungi.
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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5755229 - 06/15/06 08:55 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

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Mushroom mycelium secretions do not equate to human urine in any way, shape or form. That is disinformation and it makes the hair on my neck stand on end when I see it constantly repeated.  They are unrelated.  In fact, the secretions from many fungi are used to make antibiotics.  Read up on the production of penicillin, tetracycline, erythromycin  and other antibiotics that are made from the secretions of fungi. This has been known for a long time in professional circles.  For some reason, people around here keep repeating the same old 'mushroom piss' crap and others read it and repeat it ad nauseum.  The secretions, which contain acetone and other volatile compounds can actually be fermented and distilled out of the liquid culture the fungi mycelium is being grown in.  In commercial penicillin production, large fermentation tanks of over 30,000 gallons are common.  It is not the penicillium mold itself that they make penicillin from, but its secretions.  Please stop using urine as an analogy for the antibiotic secretions of our precious fungi.
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Thank you RR, that's why your needed around here,  :thumbup:


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Re: R to the izzo and a piss puddle [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5757673 - 06/16/06 02:57 PM (18 years, 15 days ago)

I'm guessing it's natural for the mycelium to be brownish like that since RR didn't say anything about it, huh?


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