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kilgore_trout
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casing ph won't raise very well at all
#5749885 - 06/14/06 02:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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peat with a little coir. verm to be added later. im trying to balance the peat/coir with pelletized limestone that has been wetted to be a mud-like substance then mixed in. i am testing with litmus paper and getting poor results from quite a bit of lime. any suggestions?
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: kilgore_trout]
#5750003 - 06/14/06 03:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Are you using sphagnum peat? I found canadian sphagnum peat moss has had the best pH.
I have also successfully used a small amount of baking soda to help balance out pH for my casing mix.
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: sporey]
#5750092 - 06/14/06 03:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Unless it's limestone flour, it will take a long time to break down and go to work. That's why most growers use hydrated garden lime. It goes to work right away. RR
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5753071 - 06/15/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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so am i to expect some crazy high ph later?
its nutralime pelletized limestone for the garden.
i may go out and look for some hydrated garden lime regardless because this shit is ridiculous. I expected to have to wait, but its been a while since my first additions and its still shitty. i'll see what i can do though.
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: kilgore_trout]
#5753090 - 06/15/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pelletized lime is 100% useless for mycology. It's intended to break down in your lawn over a period of months to even years. The average life of a casing layer is three to four weeks, so the pelletized stuff won't do squat.
Mix hydrated garden lime to your dry peat at the rate of one teaspoon per cup of peat. That should give you a great starting point. RR
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5753603 - 06/15/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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excellent, thanks. i'm assuming i can still use what has the pelletized lime though right?
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: kilgore_trout]
#5753723 - 06/15/06 02:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Peat is cheap. Personally, I'd start over. RR
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5753736 - 06/15/06 02:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: Peat is cheap. Personally, I'd start over. RR
second that.
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: sleepy]
#5759369 - 06/17/06 12:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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this is all i have been able to find so far
http://www.hollytone.com/content.aspx?type=p&id=8&intCategoryID=2
where can i actually find hydrated lime and what are some brands or whatever?
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: kilgore_trout]
#5759808 - 06/17/06 05:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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get calcium carbonate, you should find it everywhere, i use it instead of lime, its a lot more confy/easy to use.
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: ohmatic]
#5760196 - 06/17/06 10:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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if i can find it at a feed or wine store for cheap i might get that, but the espoma is evrywhere and would like to know how well it would work. It says it is as fast acting as hydrated lime but safer. im guessing safer means not as good. it is dolomitic it says, and i thought we were to avoid that shit anyways.
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Re: casing ph won't raise very well at all [Re: kilgore_trout]
#5760272 - 06/17/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Avoid dolomitic. Hydrated garden lime is best. You should be able to get it at any garden center. If not, it's easily available online. RR
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