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The Shroomery Island
    #5749372 - 06/14/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.nicabeachfront.com/granada1isla.htm

Tell me that if we put our minds together we could not find a way of making enough money to buy this island.

21 acres for 440,000. Now that is an awesome price. Look at the link and tell me what you think.

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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749374 - 06/14/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Shroomery Island Thread #4628739 here we go!


:wink: That does look quite gorgeous.

Of course, the average age of a Shroomerite is probably 16-24, and the average income, well, laughable, probably, as far as buying an island is concerned.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749378 - 06/14/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

quit trying to drop out of life... be part of society man.. its what all the cool people are doing


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749383 - 06/14/06 11:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

that looks tempting

wonder if there is ocean access


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749388 - 06/14/06 11:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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2914. Our dog
Goes with the island !!




???

Heh.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Infrared]
    #5749395 - 06/14/06 11:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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quit trying to drop out of life... be part of society man.. its what all the cool people are doing




No, I refuse.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749399 - 06/14/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

That island would be under Nicaraguan law:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_985.html

Penalties for possession, use, or trafficking in illegal drugs in Nicaragua are severe, and convicted offenders can expect long jail sentences and heavy fines.

The counternarcotics efforts of the National Police are relatively weak, but the drug problem in Nicaragua appeared to be modest as of 1993. Although firm evidence is lacking, cocaine use is described as substantial. The only local drug produced are from small plots of marijuana, which is consumed domestically. Nicaragua is on an overland drug transit route from South America to the United States via the Pan American Highway, and drug movement by ship has been suspected through both Caribbean and Pacific ports. The effectiveness of drug law enforcement has been limited, although a law was passed in 1992 to authorize the establishment of an antinarcotics unit in the National Police.


Can't find news on drug policy in Nicaragua much more recent than the mid-90's.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: goobler]
    #5749402 - 06/14/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

only proble is the political climate

not a bad $$$ though


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: goobler]
    #5749404 - 06/14/06 11:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

is the government in power now the same one the U.S. helped to install many years ago? Does the U.S. have its paws in Nicaragua, in otherwords?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749411 - 06/14/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I would sooner die of malnourishment than live on an island with you Droz :heart:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749420 - 06/14/06 11:54 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Too bad it isn't on the ocean..still awesome though :yesnod:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749428 - 06/14/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Man, I didn't realize how quickly the deadline was coming up for Project Carribe, initiated over four years ago between myself, TheInvizibleMan, Zero__Glass, and the root-ninja-tak. 

Better start allocating them funds! :biggrin:





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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: blink]
    #5749432 - 06/14/06 11:57 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ha, what's that suppose to mean Blink?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: blink]
    #5749456 - 06/14/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm actually calling on this


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: goobler]
    #5749478 - 06/14/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

maybe im too optimistic, but i bet we could pull it off if we truly wanted.. or atleast start funding for it.. maybe collect yearly donations and shit..

it would be awesome, but not very realistic.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Banez]
    #5749483 - 06/14/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's a lot easier to get along with people on a website than an island, just remember that. :grin:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749498 - 06/14/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

a co-op would NEVER work

they never do


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: goobler]
    #5749500 - 06/14/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

You'll just have to buy the island, build housing, and be our landlord and savior.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749523 - 06/14/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'd rather just work on changing the laws here.

Not that it's going to happen anytime soon.

Mother fuck. :frown:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: theuser]
    #5749535 - 06/14/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

ok 440 of us puts down a thousand each.. lets do it


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: danlennon3]
    #5749570 - 06/14/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i mean, if the shroomery was serious.. it could be a great opportunity for the site to make potentially millions in tourism and shit.. if we allowed non-members and shit


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Banez]
    #5749579 - 06/14/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

we will do a backround check on everyone to make sure theres no feds  :shiftyeyes:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Banez]
    #5749580 - 06/14/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There is already an island like this. :wink:

Search where Ecstasy was created. I hear it's a helluva place...


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: theuser]
    #5749593 - 06/14/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

it'd be easier if we just got the seafaring members of shroomery together to explore the pacific and find an uncharted island and delcare it it's own country. 440,000$ is alot of $. but some one with a nice boat and driven nature is alot more adventerous and rewarding.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: danlennon3]
    #5749656 - 06/14/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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we will do a backround check on everyone to make sure theres no feds  :shiftyeyes:




ok you're off the island


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: danlennon3]
    #5749688 - 06/14/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

440 people on 21 acres


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Noetical]
    #5749691 - 06/14/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Howsabout you n me grab ourselves a penthouse in some swanky see-tay and just visit the Island when we have a free weekend? :crazy2:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749699 - 06/14/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

How about Santiago Chile?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749703 - 06/14/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm sure if we had an island to ourselves, some will only visit for weeks, months, while others will live there.

I can easily spend 10,000 thousand on an island.

So we only need 44 people chipping in 10,000 each to own this thing.

Who's with me let's do this!!!!!

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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749707 - 06/14/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I would not share with you

lease it to you, perhaps


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749736 - 06/14/06 01:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Ok i've got it 44 people at 10,000 each,

So far it's me and spun...

Tell me now if you are in or out on the 10,000..

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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749739 - 06/14/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

What do you mean Goobler?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749740 - 06/14/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

you going to form an LLC to purchase it?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: goobler]
    #5749755 - 06/14/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They're just gonna collect rolled up bunches of 100 pennies and load 'em on to a truck, whaddya think about that, eh?!

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How about Santiago Chile?




How about Buenos Aires?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749758 - 06/14/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

how about uranus


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5749760 - 06/14/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Ha, what's that suppose to mean Blink?




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I'm actually calling on this




It means that as much as I love you guys, I would never dream of living with 90% of you.

Sure it sounds like a great idea until you get there and you have to literally order people to clean up. Getting shroomerites to do anything as a cohesive unit is like herding cats (credit to vamp or mnd on that one)

I'd rather not live, than live in near constant frustration. Call me a control freak.

ps: clean up the yoghurt in the culinary arts forum, it's starting to go rancid.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: blink]
    #5749761 - 06/14/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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It means that as much as I love you guys, I would never dream of living with 90% of you.

Sure it sounds like a great idea until you get there and you have to literally order people to clean up.  Getting shroomerites to do anything as a cohesive unit is like herding cats (credit to vamp or mnd on that one)

I'd rather not live, than live in near constant frustration.  Call me a control freak.




here here! :lol:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: blink]
    #5749762 - 06/14/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

There would be nitrous cartidges everywhere. It would turn into a massive mess.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749774 - 06/14/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Dig!


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Noetical]
    #5749775 - 06/14/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

It's fucking cheap down there. We would be red meat eating whiskey drinking monster men.


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    #5749783 - 06/14/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

A Shroomery island would turn into a hippy-ish "Lord of the Flies" or something along those lines.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5749794 - 06/14/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I just had this wild vision of someone being like "THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE WATER, IT'S GETTING CLOSER!" and all of a sudden TM shows up in a wetsuit and those flippy floppy shoe-type divey things, with Shane in his arms, and we're all like "dude, the puppy can't breathe underwater" and he's all like "oh noes!!!!!!111eleven!" and he actually says the 1's and elevens cause he's all interl33t like that. Woah. That was a mouthful.

I'm a misanthrope, I don't belong locked on an island with a bunch of people.

/looks around

Oh yeah. I live on the island of Manhattan. :lol:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749808 - 06/14/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl: That was the best post I've read today :rofl:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Noetical]
    #5749828 - 06/14/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

How far are you from Toronto? Reasonable enough distance to make it to beerfest?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749890 - 06/14/06 02:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

About a $400 plane ride :sad:

And since I'm broke :suicide: it ain't likely happening (but I wouldn't call it impossible)


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Noetical]
    #5749893 - 06/14/06 02:46 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Don't you have a car, fancypants?

Shit, they're letting me outta work early. God bless the googlyness. I'm off to rock Radiohead again. Fuck. FUCK! I am so excited it makes me anxious. I AM FREAKING OUT


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749913 - 06/14/06 02:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Shite that would be 3,606 KM



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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5749921 - 06/14/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

and you have to police the island

there are apparently 'locals' who frequent the island and thats a reason for the sale


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5958538 - 08/13/06 07:06 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The most feasible way to *build* an island is to construct a  Habbakkuk which basically is an island made of ice, with an internal coolant system so that it even can reach into warmer climates. It sounds a bit perilous (an iceberg with a coolant system in warm waters :wink:) but the Allies in WW 2 considered it feasible to construct one such Habbakkuk of 2.000 ft length. Alas, it was conceived too late in the war to be of use.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
    #5960290 - 08/13/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Ah, you must have also seen the recent documentary on NGC  :wink:
The craft was prohibitively expensive though.

I think our best bet would be to buy an oil tanker that would otherwise be cut up in India and clean and convert it. We could make a lot of rooms and halls in the tanks. We could put greenhouses on the deck. Maybe a hotel in the crew quarters and steering hut for some extra revenue. I think it should be parked in international waters of the coast of Europe somewhere.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5960910 - 08/13/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've got 5 on it.


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    #5961326 - 08/14/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i'd be down. except, how the fuck are we gonna survive?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
    #5962147 - 08/14/06 09:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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The most feasible way to *build* an island is to construct a  Habbakkuk which basically is an island made of ice, with an internal coolant system so that it even can reach into warmer climates. It sounds a bit perilous (an iceberg with a coolant system in warm waters :wink:) but the Allies in WW 2 considered it feasible to construct one such Habbakkuk of 2.000 ft length. Alas, it was conceived too late in the war to be of use.





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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: RuNE]
    #5962308 - 08/14/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think I'd go insane >_<


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: RuNE]
    #5962309 - 08/14/06 10:41 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

we just need one of us to win the lottery. I would buy the shroomery an island if I win. I play regularly.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Rebirtha]
    #5962685 - 08/14/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Even if we can't buy an island we can sure as hell buy land near a rainforest and build a resort. Then easily charge people for tours of the rainforest. We'd have our own green houses, where we'd grow a lot of food. If it's near water have fishing trips everyday to catch fish to eat. Have a good storage area where we bring in food from the closest town, city. Even have a restaraunt if needed, to feed the people who pay to stay.

I'll go look up some land near a rainforest now, i'll get back to you guys after I do.

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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5962755 - 08/14/06 01:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't find any rainforest land, but I did find some really cheap Caribbean Island land.

http://www.caribbeanislandbrokers.com/

Check them out, they are actually pretty cheap.

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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5962767 - 08/14/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Oh and don't forget to check out the resorts for sale. There are three and in like 10 years we could easily afford one of these if we put our money together.


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    #5962777 - 08/14/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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440 people on 21 acres




it could be like a time share! :smirk:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Cracka_X]
    #5963720 - 08/14/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Heh its nice to dream this site by far has the nicest selection.

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    #5963741 - 08/14/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

Droz said:
Ha, what's that suppose to mean Blink?




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I'm actually calling on this




It means that as much as I love you guys, I would never dream of living with 90% of you.

Sure it sounds like a great idea until you get there and you have to literally order people to clean up. Getting shroomerites to do anything as a cohesive unit is like herding cats (credit to vamp or mnd on that one)

I'd rather not live, than live in near constant frustration. Call me a control freak.

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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
    #5965268 - 08/15/06 05:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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I didn't find any rainforest land, but I did find some really cheap Caribbean Island land.

http://www.caribbeanislandbrokers.com/

Check them out, they are actually pretty cheap.

Peace,
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Wow, awesome. Those islands are amazingly beautiful. And you're right those prices sound really reasonable.
I wish I had that kind of money.

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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5965273 - 08/15/06 05:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

How about an oil-tanker disguised as an island


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
    #5965278 - 08/15/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Supertankers are also very efficient ships, relying on a single propeller for propulsion, and typically account for only US $0.02 per gallon of gas at the pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supertanker
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
    #5965300 - 08/15/06 06:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

or how about buying a tiny island and expanding the space with remodeled supertankers designed for water storage + whatnot.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5965311 - 08/15/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Ah, you must have also seen the recent documentary on NGC  :wink:
I think our best bet would be to buy an oil tanker that would otherwise be cut up in India and clean and convert it. We could make a lot of rooms and halls in the tanks. We could put greenhouses on the deck. Maybe a hotel in the crew quarters and steering hut for some extra revenue. I think it should be parked in international waters of the coast of Europe somewhere.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
    #5965384 - 08/15/06 08:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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or how about buying a tiny island and expanding the space with remodeled supertankers designed for water storage + whatnot.




I think this is actually the best idea proposed so far...


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Organic]
    #5965439 - 08/15/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

A tanker registered in Denmark would be subject to the laws of that state?


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    #5965451 - 08/15/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know...I'm sure there would be jurisdiction issues thousands of miles away.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
    #5965476 - 08/15/06 09:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Nope, being registered somewhere is just a monetary/taxes thing, thats why many ships from around the world are registered in singapore or another place cheap.

When you are in international waters you technically are a sovereign state but subject to international law. When in territorial waters (such as an island in the carribean) you fall under the laws of the land the island belongs to.

Buying an island is like buying a house: it's yours, but you're still subject to the nation's law.

Some countries however, for a few bucks more, might be willing to sign legally binding contracts that they withdraw their rule over the island for as long as the country, or others, are not negatively affected by what goes on on the island.

So: laid back shroomery community yes, exporting kilos of LSD no.

Countries like Indonesia, who have a shitload of small islands, might be willing to sign such contracts, but I doubt if they'll sign a treaty making your island no longer part of their territory. The only place where I can see that happening is places like in Africa where poverty is immense and population density is very low. We could then join the African Union and the UN, and give the admins even more paperwork :evil:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
    #5965858 - 08/15/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

But what would happen if we had a tanker in international waters and produced LSD. Is there an international law against drugs?
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    #5966104 - 08/15/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)







If you don't join the UN, you're toast. If you join the UN, you'll get intervened with. You can't produce LSD and put a bullseye on your forehead, that always has to be a guerilla operation. You're forgetting that if you *export* LSD then you take part in an illegal transaction in the country the LSD gets *imported* to, and said country will interpret the situation as "they are unprotected by national rights", hence the BLU 82 Daisycutter.

And nobody would EVER know.

You're Dutch, hear me out: a few days ago there was a bombing in the city of Heerlen, presumably they targeted a city councilmember of the Socialist Party, but in a likely phuckup the bomb was placed one door further. You did NOT see that on the news, and chances are you did NOT read that front-page in the newspaper. It was suppressed by the media, I only learned of it through a chat with a friend who produced a link to a local newspaper there.
A possibly political *bombing* in *Holland* and it was not in the news, NOS, RTL, or anywhere.

Similarly, a tanker churning out LSD would simply be gone and no one would be the wiser. Scramble the radio and bomb the ship.

So, if you form a sovereign state the very first thing you must do is join the UN (for the international protection) and jump into the public eye, so that you can't merely be brushed off a strategist's map.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
    #5966130 - 08/15/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I sitll think it would be much more feasible to buy a cheap ocean-liner and float it out to international waters than to buy a small island.

Of course we would need all the moderators to bring their bansticks in order to fight off any lurking pirates. :pirate:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
    #5966206 - 08/15/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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You're Dutch, hear me out: a few days ago there was a bombing in the city of Heerlen, presumably they targeted a city councilmember of the Socialist Party, but in a likely phuckup the bomb was placed one door further. You did NOT see that on the news, and chances are you did NOT read that front-page in the newspaper. It was suppressed by the media, I only learned of it through a chat with a friend who produced a link to a local newspaper there.
A possibly political *bombing* in *Holland* and it was not in the news, NOS, RTL, or anywhere.




Wow you're right I haven't heard of that. I think the media would be all over something like that, especially cause summer news generally is pretty slow. Can you produce said link?

I think producing and exporting LSD would be a bad thing. We should be self supporting, maybe some tourism. All drugs produced on the island should be contained there. Then I think people wouldn't object as much. But then we would lack a lot of money. And I doubt we could be completely self supporting without losing a lot of luxuries.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5966219 - 08/15/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If the island was located near a country that has loose drug laws or where shrooms are legal that would solve a lot of our problems, but I guess you can't be too picky when it comes to buying islands.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
    #5966227 - 08/15/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The link doesnt work anymore :ooo:

There is no way in Hell that the RTL or NOS wouldn't have immediately dispatched a reporter team to make it the star item of their evening news.

Well.. obviously they must have sent the reporters, but were silenced. You know how newsworthy this would be in our country, in these times. We'd eat it up! But apparently this would spin the wrong way, so its swept under the rug.


...interestingly now the NOS and RTL are carrying it in their archives. Am I going paranoid? :blush:


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    #5966301 - 08/15/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I think you're being rational.


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: TYL3R]
    #5966310 - 08/15/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Largest ship in the world :eek:

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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: TYL3R]
    #5968329 - 08/16/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i dunno about you guys, but i kinda like forests and lakes and rivers and grass and solid ground. living out on the ocean is not for many.


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    #5968555 - 08/16/06 02:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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http://www.nicabeachfront.com/granada1isla.htm

Tell me that if we put our minds together we could not find a way of making enough money to buy this island.

21 acres for 440,000. Now that is an awesome price. Look at the link and tell me what you think.

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    #5969128 - 08/16/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

nobody has mentioned that there would be far too much penis per capita on this island as well


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    #5972149 - 08/17/06 05:58 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Good point. We would have to import a lot of russian brides or something  :smirk:


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    #5972173 - 08/17/06 06:24 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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nobody has mentioned that there would be far too much penis per capita on this island as well





Homosexuality was suggested as a solution but there aren't many takers :evil:


Seriously: the Shroomery's best bet is not some tropical island, but rather a cluster of farms in Holland, where shrooms and cannabis are legal, the ecstasy is plentiful and which generally is well-supplied in the drug department.


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    #5972190 - 08/17/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

*and more women than on a deserted tropical island..


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    #5972207 - 08/17/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

While we're dreaming, why not go all out? Buy this island  :thumbup:


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    #5972360 - 08/17/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

How much would 10 acres of farmland run in Holland, cheapest available?


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Organic]
    #5972604 - 08/17/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

10 acres is around 40000 square metres. Or about 4 hectares.
Farmland is around 30000 euros a hectare at the moment. So that's ~120000 euros =~$150000.
Cheapest places are around 22000 euros a hectare so that is around $112000 dollars.

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    #5975160 - 08/18/06 04:23 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

That is less than I expected to be honest. I'm sure I could make the farmland more ehrm... "interesting" :wink:


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Organic]
    #5988639 - 08/23/06 03:00 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Related news story:

Magician David Copperfield claims he has discovered a real-life "Fountain of Youth".

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=29&art_id=iol115590267834C161&set_id=1

Magician David Copperfield claims he has discovered a real-life "Fountain of Youth".

The illusionist, who previously dated German supermodel Claudia Schiffer, recently paid £36-million (about R468-million) for four islands in the Exuma archipelago, in the Bahamas, and is adamant he has discovered an expanse of water there that has life-giving qualities.

Among the water's 'powers' is the ability to bring near-dead creatures back to life.

He said: "I've discovered a true phenomenon. You can take dead leaves, they come into contact with the water, they become full of life again. Bugs or
insects that are near death come in contact with the water, they fly away. It's an amazing thing, very exciting."

Copperfield, 49, has now hired a team of top biologists and geologists to come and test the water and the effects it could possibly have on humans.

Until the extensive tests are carried out, the magician is refusing anyone else access to the water.

Myths surrounding the Fountain of Youth have been around for hundreds of years.

One myth dates back to the 16th century, when Spanish explorer Ponce de Leon - who accompanied Christopher Columbus on his second voyage to the New World - heard about it from Caribbean natives.

The natives Leon and his conquistador crew met told them there was a spring with rejuvenating powers in the Bahamas, allegedly not far from - Bang Showbiz


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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
    #5988766 - 08/23/06 05:20 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah right. This is just the setup for one of his new illusions. Or he wants to market bottled water to stupid people.


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