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Yarry
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: blink]
#5963741 - 08/14/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Droz said: Ha, what's that suppose to mean Blink?
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goobler said: I'm actually calling on this
It means that as much as I love you guys, I would never dream of living with 90% of you.
Sure it sounds like a great idea until you get there and you have to literally order people to clean up. Getting shroomerites to do anything as a cohesive unit is like herding cats (credit to vamp or mnd on that one)
I'd rather not live, than live in near constant frustration. Call me a control freak.
ps: clean up the yoghurt in the culinary arts forum, it's starting to go rancid.
Herding Cats... well said.
Ill have to remember that one.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
#5965268 - 08/15/06 05:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Droz said: I didn't find any rainforest land, but I did find some really cheap Caribbean Island land.
http://www.caribbeanislandbrokers.com/
Check them out, they are actually pretty cheap.
Peace, Droz
Wow, awesome. Those islands are amazingly beautiful. And you're right those prices sound really reasonable. I wish I had that kind of money.
41 acres - $1,600,000
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
#5965273 - 08/15/06 05:40 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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How about an oil-tanker disguised as an island
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
#5965278 - 08/15/06 05:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Supertankers are also very efficient ships, relying on a single propeller for propulsion, and typically account for only US $0.02 per gallon of gas at the pump. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supertanker and there's all that interior space ready for remodeling.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
#5965300 - 08/15/06 06:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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or how about buying a tiny island and expanding the space with remodeled supertankers designed for water storage + whatnot.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
#5965311 - 08/15/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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cybrbeast said: Ah, you must have also seen the recent documentary on NGC  I think our best bet would be to buy an oil tanker that would otherwise be cut up in India and clean and convert it. We could make a lot of rooms and halls in the tanks. We could put greenhouses on the deck. Maybe a hotel in the crew quarters and steering hut for some extra revenue. I think it should be parked in international waters of the coast of Europe somewhere. I can dream
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
#5965384 - 08/15/06 08:05 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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or how about buying a tiny island and expanding the space with remodeled supertankers designed for water storage + whatnot.
I think this is actually the best idea proposed so far...
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Organic]
#5965439 - 08/15/06 08:54 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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A tanker registered in Denmark would be subject to the laws of that state?
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
#5965451 - 08/15/06 09:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know...I'm sure there would be jurisdiction issues thousands of miles away.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Booby]
#5965476 - 08/15/06 09:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nope, being registered somewhere is just a monetary/taxes thing, thats why many ships from around the world are registered in singapore or another place cheap.
When you are in international waters you technically are a sovereign state but subject to international law. When in territorial waters (such as an island in the carribean) you fall under the laws of the land the island belongs to.
Buying an island is like buying a house: it's yours, but you're still subject to the nation's law.
Some countries however, for a few bucks more, might be willing to sign legally binding contracts that they withdraw their rule over the island for as long as the country, or others, are not negatively affected by what goes on on the island.
So: laid back shroomery community yes, exporting kilos of LSD no.
Countries like Indonesia, who have a shitload of small islands, might be willing to sign such contracts, but I doubt if they'll sign a treaty making your island no longer part of their territory. The only place where I can see that happening is places like in Africa where poverty is immense and population density is very low. We could then join the African Union and the UN, and give the admins even more paperwork
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
#5965858 - 08/15/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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But what would happen if we had a tanker in international waters and produced LSD. Is there an international law against drugs? Or would the DEA just drop by and torpedo us?
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
#5966104 - 08/15/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you don't join the UN, you're toast. If you join the UN, you'll get intervened with. You can't produce LSD and put a bullseye on your forehead, that always has to be a guerilla operation. You're forgetting that if you *export* LSD then you take part in an illegal transaction in the country the LSD gets *imported* to, and said country will interpret the situation as "they are unprotected by national rights", hence the BLU 82 Daisycutter.
And nobody would EVER know.
You're Dutch, hear me out: a few days ago there was a bombing in the city of Heerlen, presumably they targeted a city councilmember of the Socialist Party, but in a likely phuckup the bomb was placed one door further. You did NOT see that on the news, and chances are you did NOT read that front-page in the newspaper. It was suppressed by the media, I only learned of it through a chat with a friend who produced a link to a local newspaper there. A possibly political *bombing* in *Holland* and it was not in the news, NOS, RTL, or anywhere.
Similarly, a tanker churning out LSD would simply be gone and no one would be the wiser. Scramble the radio and bomb the ship.
So, if you form a sovereign state the very first thing you must do is join the UN (for the international protection) and jump into the public eye, so that you can't merely be brushed off a strategist's map.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
#5966130 - 08/15/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I sitll think it would be much more feasible to buy a cheap ocean-liner and float it out to international waters than to buy a small island.
Of course we would need all the moderators to bring their bansticks in order to fight off any lurking pirates.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
#5966206 - 08/15/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: You're Dutch, hear me out: a few days ago there was a bombing in the city of Heerlen, presumably they targeted a city councilmember of the Socialist Party, but in a likely phuckup the bomb was placed one door further. You did NOT see that on the news, and chances are you did NOT read that front-page in the newspaper. It was suppressed by the media, I only learned of it through a chat with a friend who produced a link to a local newspaper there. A possibly political *bombing* in *Holland* and it was not in the news, NOS, RTL, or anywhere.
Wow you're right I haven't heard of that. I think the media would be all over something like that, especially cause summer news generally is pretty slow. Can you produce said link?
I think producing and exporting LSD would be a bad thing. We should be self supporting, maybe some tourism. All drugs produced on the island should be contained there. Then I think people wouldn't object as much. But then we would lack a lot of money. And I doubt we could be completely self supporting without losing a lot of luxuries. Not that it's ever going to happen
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
#5966219 - 08/15/06 01:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the island was located near a country that has loose drug laws or where shrooms are legal that would solve a lot of our problems, but I guess you can't be too picky when it comes to buying islands.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: cybrbeast]
#5966227 - 08/15/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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The link doesnt work anymore 
There is no way in Hell that the RTL or NOS wouldn't have immediately dispatched a reporter team to make it the star item of their evening news.
Well.. obviously they must have sent the reporters, but were silenced. You know how newsworthy this would be in our country, in these times. We'd eat it up! But apparently this would spin the wrong way, so its swept under the rug.
...interestingly now the NOS and RTL are carrying it in their archives. Am I going paranoid?
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Asante]
#5966301 - 08/15/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you're being rational.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: TYL3R]
#5966310 - 08/15/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: TYL3R]
#5968329 - 08/16/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dunno about you guys, but i kinda like forests and lakes and rivers and grass and solid ground. living out on the ocean is not for many.
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Re: The Shroomery Island [Re: Droz]
#5968555 - 08/16/06 02:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Droz said: http://www.nicabeachfront.com/granada1isla.htm
Tell me that if we put our minds together we could not find a way of making enough money to buy this island.
21 acres for 440,000. Now that is an awesome price. Look at the link and tell me what you think.
Peace, Droz
I tried getting funding in OTD for a nuclear plant for uranium to sell to rogue countries........didnt get enuff funding sadly.
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