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gutmaggot
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next best thing? (cant order poo)
#5748361 - 06/14/06 02:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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tennstud isnt taking my american express. i need to order something today. whats the next best thing to use?
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5748377 - 06/14/06 02:19 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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and i dont have a PC. so anything i could use to get good yields and flushes that wont require a pc please someone let me know. :X
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5748404 - 06/14/06 02:37 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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You don't use a PC with manure anyway. You can use straw, coir, cow manure, coffee grinds, seaweed, worm castings or compost either separately or all mixed together. You can also get horse manure from any house you see with a horse in back. Just knock on the door and ask. Get the old stuff that has dried in the sun. RR
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5748405 - 06/14/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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you can just case them without or cow manure will work also. You can pasturize almost any manure IMO. Chicken manure will even work, although not as well.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: shroomerite]
#5748413 - 06/14/06 02:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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... what about human poo?
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: hippie_cune]
#5748416 - 06/14/06 02:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Manure from grain and/or hay eating creatures only. Chicken manure must not be used at a rate of over 5% by volume. RR
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) *DELETED* [Re: hippie_cune]
#5748422 - 06/14/06 02:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5748427 - 06/14/06 02:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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if anyone has any teks for something besdies hpoo let me know. subject says it all, im looking for the next best thing. i need to start asap  prolly gona attempt a straw grow. any help from anyone is greatly appreciated.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: shroomerite]
#5748428 - 06/14/06 02:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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hahaha id boil my own shit if that meant i didnt have to buy some
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: hippie_cune]
#5748493 - 06/14/06 03:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just go find horse poo somewhere else. Theres tons of it around. I got 200 lbs dried weathered and aged for free. If I had a truck, I could have taken all of it. Just look up horse farms in your phonebook. It takes 5 minutes and they will be glad to give you all the shit that you want.
I saw your freakout post in the sponsors forum regarding tenn stud. I suggest you contact the vendor and he can help you make the purchase. I have had that happen at a few online places and can easily be remedied if you contact them. Your impatience will not go over well in this hobby.
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> ... what about human poo?
Doesn't work. There might be a way to make it work, but the standard methods don't work with hpoo.
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johnjohnandjamal said: Just go find horse poo somewhere else. Theres tons of it around. I got 200 lbs dried weathered and aged for free. If I had a truck, I could have taken all of it. Just look up horse farms in your phonebook. It takes 5 minutes and they will be glad to give you all the shit that you want.
I saw your freakout post in the sponsors forum regarding tenn stud. I suggest you contact the vendor and he can help you make the purchase. I have had that happen at a few online places and can easily be remedied if you contact them. Your impatience will not go over well in this hobby.
yeah well i already contacted them. its a paypal problem and only they can resolve it. and if you know anything about paypal you know they wont do anything. I HAVE TRIED
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5748875 - 06/14/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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if i couldnt get any horse poo....................id probably use maby 70/30 straw coco coir with all water used from a good compost leach....and a couple tbs of kelp meal for more nuets......but i dont think i would ever be in that possition to have no access to h-poo.....anyway good luck!!!........
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ZEPH]
#5748915 - 06/14/06 08:29 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Horse........... $1,100 Stable fee.... $100/month Hay and feed.. $75/month Bridle............. $30 Saddle.......... $200 Having someone actually pay you for it's shit... PRICELESS
I suggest you just go to the nearest farm and get some. Just ask the farmer and they'll probably give you all you're willing to haul away for free.
If you really can't get any, just use any of the many other substrates that people usually use. Like brown rice flour, wild bird seed, rye, straw, etc.. Most of them work just as well, if not better and they are much more pleasant to work with than animal shit.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: fastfred]
#5748940 - 06/14/06 08:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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im anything but a city slicker bro....i pay for mines though....i have went out and got it at my moms a couple times but heh to much hassel when i can get it pre passturized delivered..........easy of aquiring, no hassel and time.....even more priceless...lol
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ZEPH]
#5748958 - 06/14/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ZEPH said: im anything but a city slicker bro....i pay for mines though....i have went out and got it at my moms a couple times but heh to much hassel when i can get it pre passturized delivered..........easy of aquiring, no hassel and time.....even more priceless...lol
agreed. i guess fastfred just likes to play with poopy. either that or hes a greedy shylock and wants to stockpile his money. we can all see he has the numbers really worked out  i guess i am a city slicker for paying 40 bucks or less every couple of months for poo that is READY OUT THE BAG. sorry but the picture below is NOT me. go count your coins fred.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ZEPH]
#5748966 - 06/14/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can see 2 horses from my back window , know the owner and am allowed to gather it anytime I want . I buy mine also . 
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: HippieChick]
#5748974 - 06/14/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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HippieChick said: I can see 2 horses from my back window , know the owner and am allowed to gather it anytime I want . I buy mine also . 
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guess that makes you a dumb city slicker?
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5749059 - 06/14/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its true If you were to ask me, I'd give you loads and loads of poo to use and we've only got 2 horses. Just about anybody with horses, as long as you are willing to do the work and be fast about it (don't dink around and take a smoke break), will give you poo, for free more than likely. Otherwise get some straw from your local livestock feed store. I do recommend aged sun dried horse poo as opposed to fresh tho. when horse stalls are cleaned the ammonia from their urine mixes in with their poo. and the often urinate in the same spots as pooping in the fields. Ammonia will kill your project but will evaporate in the sun. a good sign of too much ammonia is inky cap there's a picture and information regarding it on this page: Shroomery Contams Page
on nearly all my outdoors horse poo piles around here you can find those unless its had some time to evaporate the ammonia (takes a good while for this process).
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
#5749408 - 06/14/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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youll know a good horse apple when u find it.....itll fell like a rock and when u break it itll sound like its tearing apart ......thats what iv always went with hehe
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5749429 - 06/14/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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HippieChick said: I can see 2 horses from my back window , know the owner and am allowed to gather it anytime I want . I buy mine also . 
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony Hippie Chick
guess that makes you a dumb city slicker?
or a girl that dosnt dig touching horse shit,hell im a guy and i try to avoid it .......one time my momi picked one up and broke it apart..... horses smell good here smell..i said wtf! hell no lol..i think we were talking how cows smell so bad or something
Edited by ZEPH (06/14/06 11:59 AM)
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ZEPH]
#5749445 - 06/14/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol "here smell" oh man i can just see my womens reaction
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5749454 - 06/14/06 12:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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shes gonna love it when u cook a big ass bag full of it on the stove
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ZEPH]
#5749484 - 06/14/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i guess fastfred deleted his post calling everyone who bought hpoo a gullible city slicker.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5749563 - 06/14/06 12:45 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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theres a ton of farms right outside of town (i live in kansas) so theres plenty of cow and horse shit for the pickin.
ill send you some patties if you want
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5749577 - 06/14/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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cuz he saw there are smart country folk in this bitch lol
j/k fastfred your quotes on the costs were really quite accurate except my mom has paints there like 5-15k ea :/ she borded a tenn walker stud 6.8 hands damn, it was bad ass 50k.......if it was black i would of stole it lol
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ZEPH]
#5749687 - 06/14/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some girl friends are okay with the stove pasturizing, ounce I showed her that there was no smell anymore after i aged it some, altho getting her to trust me enough to take a big wiff was the hardest part(lol) That taught me that the trick of getting some stink bait and going hey dear does this smell okay for a joke(lol) might bite me in the ass later in life(lol)
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: kilroy]
#5750107 - 06/14/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i have had results with bought cow manure and straw. try that.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ZEPH]
#5750169 - 06/14/06 04:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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gutmaggot said:
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HippieChick said: I can see 2 horses from my back window , know the owner and am allowed to gather it anytime I want . I buy mine also . 
Peace,Love,Happiness and Harmony Hippie Chick
guess that makes you a dumb city slicker?
or a girl that dosnt dig touching horse shit,hell im a guy and i try to avoid it .......one time my momi picked one up and broke it apart..... horses smell good here smell..i said wtf! hell no lol..i think we were talking how cows smell so bad or something
Or a girl who likes to have some free time . I like working and gathering poo , just don't have the time with work and all . Mike gives me a good deal when I order , but I order it by 100 pound lots I 'd rather have that time to myself 
I do have a couple 100 pounds of nice horse nug in storage for emergencies though .
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: Swan Song]
#5750201 - 06/14/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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lostinnc said: i have had results with bought cow manure and straw. try that.
if you could remember more or less what kind of results and strain? what type of fc etc. any info would be appreciated
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: fastfred]
#5750204 - 06/14/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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fastfred said: > ... what about human poo? Doesn't work.
did you ever do that experiment you were talking about?
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fastfred said: Horse........... $1,100 Stable fee.... $100/month Hay and feed.. $75/month Bridle............. $30 Saddle.......... $200
thats pretty cheap
and you're right, most farmers will give the stuff away, I do quite frequently
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5750253 - 06/14/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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gutmaggot said: tennstud isnt taking my american express. i need to order something today. whats the next best thing to use?
of course thru our pm's ya know i like straw .
but back when i first became a member here, a lot of people was having luck with scotts 3-in-1 compost.
its definately NOT optimal, but it works ( i played with it a bit too )
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ChromeCrow]
#5750302 - 06/14/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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gutmaggot writes: "either that or hes a greedy shylock and wants to stockpile his money."
I'll assume that you don't realize "shylock" and your gigantic picture of an archtypical hook-nosed Jew is pretty much in the same league as "kike," "nigger," "wetback," etc.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5750316 - 06/14/06 05:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mycosupply.com sells dehydrated hpoo pellets and they accept American Express problem solved
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: S33D]
#5750518 - 06/14/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 those are some sweet looking mounts there. I miss riding at my uncle`s farm.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: S33D]
#5750602 - 06/14/06 06:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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S33D said: Mycosupply.com sells dehydrated hpoo pellets and they accept American Express problem solved
not to dis such a wonderful sponsor as myco supply, but check out my journal before ya shell out the money for the poo pellets
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: ChromeCrow]
#5751142 - 06/14/06 08:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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S33D said: Mycosupply.com sells dehydrated hpoo pellets and they accept American Express problem solved
not to dis such a wonderful sponsor as myco supply, but check out my journal before ya shell out the money for the poo pellets
I can understand where your coming from. MycoSupply says quote:
"How to re hydrate Simply mix the dehydrated manure with water until you reach a paste-like consistency Pasteurize Finally mix with spawn, then case!"
I did exactly that on my first bulk grow and all my spawn suffocated which is what i think happened to you. I understand now that its concentrated and it really needs to be mixed with straw or coir to get the right water content and airiness. As for the smell I never really expected hpoo to smell like roses but maybe it is a bit pungent. dunno I'm in the middle of my first fully successful bulk grow right now. coir and Mycosuppy hpoo. So far I have one inch pins and everything seems to be going good.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: splifner180]
#5751267 - 06/14/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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splifner180 said: gutmaggot writes: "either that or hes a greedy shylock and wants to stockpile his money."
I'll assume that you don't realize "shylock" and your gigantic picture of an archtypical hook-nosed Jew is pretty much in the same league as "kike," "nigger," "wetback," etc.
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Re: next best thing? (cant order poo) [Re: gutmaggot]
#5776100 - 06/21/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have seen a brand of cow manure for sale at almost all the garden centers i have been to. Called Black Kow. Comes in a bigass yellow bag. I read one tek where he used store bought poo but didn't say what type. Has anyone heard of or used this brand. It's very widely availabe and cheap as hell for a big ass 50lb bag. like 8 bucks i think..
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