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DoorsGirl
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Bad LSD
#5746915 - 06/13/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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For awhile I believed LSD to be extinct in my area, until recently a fellow student in one of my classes informed me that he had some acid for sale.. I buy my hash and mescaline through him so i knew i could trust him. I bought 2 hits just to see how good they were. I came home, took both hits, waited....smoked some pot....waited....still waited...and nothing. I was so excited about being able to finally find LSD, to be let down tremendously from its weakness. The conviction of William Leonard Pickard (the man who kept the LSD business in this nation) has left the LSD ring battered and beaten and people like me, who seak enlightenment and thought through this wonderful drug, get affected.
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That sucks. Go pop some DXM...
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I have only had weak impure lsd at worst. I Once got a research chem in an enlarged geltab(we knew something was up and it was one hell of a trip but it was definately an RC).
SOme people are privilaged enough to only have tried good lsd. I have tripped about 60-70 times on lsd and it was usually top notch(most people wouldnt dream of going above 2-3 hits). There are times where the acid was weak, and other times when the acid was impure. Not impure because of additives, impure with an excess of potent ergot-like chemicals still in the batch. Id call it "very dirty acid" but it was always certainly acid(had nothing to do with my mindset or setting, I would know). Anyone who has had some serious sandoz style "best of the best" type acid knows how that differs from some of even the nicest the blotters out there today.
Im very curious though. Since you know you can trust this guy and all, what form did your "mescaline" come in and how much did it cost? Im just wondering how much trust is due when you are buying an active chemical called "mescaline" if its not in cacti or tea/sludge form. Mescaline powder is made from cacti for the most part, and that is very rare and much harder to find than really good lsd. Sure you can make it yourself with your own cacti, but it is very seldom sold by any "dealer". So your mescaline is probably not mescaline either, that would be my guess.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747023 - 06/13/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, there's always 100 people selling "mescaline" at festivals....
I ask to see it and they bust out some gelcaps with like 10mg of pure white powder. It's never mescaline...
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747029 - 06/13/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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This guy is the first person i ever came across who had access to mescaline, so i really have no idea how much it SHOULD go for. But it comes in crystalized form, so im guessing its lab made. A gram of the stuff goes for about $30. Too much? Even if it is, im not complaining. It's the only source of good mescaline i can find, let alone finding it AT ALL, and i dont mind the price. Acid on the other hand, years ago when i had my first encounters with LSD, i was told by the suppliers that each hit was approx. 100-125 mcgs....I was happy then. But now, im guessing the hits ive come across are either 0-50 mcgs, if it's even LSD.
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Exactly. Your the umphrey's mcgee fan as I recall, you would know.
I will usually just laugh and ask them what it really is, and half the time they think their 10 mg pill is actually mescaline. Less than half the time they will show it to me, I laugh and ask what it really is. They laugh and then admit that its just 2c-i. In my experience with experienced dealers they actually know what it is and it has always been 2c-?........
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747065 - 06/13/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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One-thousand mgs of mescaline for 30 dollars is a fine price. For all the work that goes into extracting it im surprized. 30 mgs of 2ci can mix pretty well with any floury substance. Im sure people do that to make it actually look like a pretty pure form of mescaline. Im sure it can inherently fool the best of us. Given that you buy it buy the gram and the price is good, I at this point have noi idea if what you get is actually mescaline.
Im confused
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747079 - 06/13/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Perhaps, the scarcity of mescaline in my area is the cause of its high price? Whatsoever, money really is no object when it comes to my happiness
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stemmer
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30 mgs of 2ci can mix pretty well with any floury substance. Im sure people do that to make it actually look like a pretty pure form of mescaline. Im sure it can inherently fool the best of us. Given that you buy it buy the gram and the price is good, I at this point have noi idea if what you get is actually mescaline. It does jive with the weight in mescaline powder you would need for 2 trips or less.
If it is mescaline, thats not a high price is what im saying.
Edited by stemmer (06/13/06 08:01 PM)
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747107 - 06/13/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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My mistake. I read it wrong at first. What IS mescaline supposed to look like? I was always under the impression that if created in a lab, its a white type of crystalized powder...but then again, many things can be created in a lab with the same physical properties. Ive never done 2ci, or maybe i have thinking it to be mescaline...what's the difference?
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A gram of mescaline should cost much more. If it is synthesized mescaline; extracted could be much cheaper. From what I understand it is pretty tough to make mescaline in a lab.
The one time my friends got some, I thought it was research chem though I never tried it, but they say it was mescaline, it cost 30 bucks for a single dose of it.
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Gratos
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Since when has Pickard become a folk hero?!?
EDIT: and since when did Pickard keep the dream alive?!?
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DoorsGirl
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Hmmm, then i guess what my supplier has is not mescaline. Im sure he did not know this since i know for a fact he was under the impression that it WAS mescaline. I wonder what it really is....
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They are both Psychedelic Phenethylamines.
Not very alike experientially, but similare in some ways. Shrooms and mescaline are nothing alike in my opinion. You could more easily compare mescaline to 2ci or LSD. Try some mescaline cacti and you will likely know for sure.
Mescaline powder that is made more easily is not as pure and can even take on a red tinge. Its basically a white powder most of the time from what I have seen. Anyone who makes an extract usually does it in such a way that it yeilds white/grey crysal like powder.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: Gratos]
#5747140 - 06/13/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gratos said: Since when has Pickard become a folk hero?!?
Pickard was my hero. For all i know, the amazingly potent LSD i used to come across most likely came from him. He was one of the largest suppliers of LSD, along with his partner (i forget the name). But when the DEA brought down his operation, they had classified it as the BIGGEST LSD bust in history, confiscating about 90 POUNDS of LSD.....my goodness, its too drool over.
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stemmer
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It should cost quite a bit more for onethousand mgs of pure mesc powder.
It is kind of interesting to think how 30 mgs of 2c-i costs 20-30 dollars.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747197 - 06/13/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doorsgirl remember this is the DEA. Yes he was probably a huge supplier but don't you think they're going to say,"Hey look what great work we've done boss! We caught the biggest suppier of LSD in the country! Look boss! We're great! ...More funds." Also, 90 pounds. If he is creating it he is dealing with crystal. Imagine 90 pounds of crystal acid. That's...a lot.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747202 - 06/13/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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At some of the prices I've seen (in semi-bulk), that's 18-28 dollars in profit per dose.
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Gratos
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Hmm, I see. To me Pickard was a fellar' who turned informant after his first LSD bust. When he went down the second time many other LSD chemists went into hiding because they didnt trust him, they knew his history. Its sad really but, one mans hero is anothers villan I guess.
He didnt have ninety pounds of LSD either.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: Gratos]
#5747229 - 06/13/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess i was given false information. I never knew he turned informant..
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In reality if most people knew how to get 2c-i it would be alot less costly. 10-15 mgs would be less than 5 dollars. 15 mgs is sort of intense in my opinion. Its just such weird stuff that higher doses wouldnt sit well with me, unlike lsd or mushrooms etc...
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: Gratos]
#5747266 - 06/13/06 08:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ive read after pickards conviction, he had 2 consecutive life sentences..never knew he "turned to the darkside"
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If he was an informant, I suppose the gov. backed out on their end of the deal, eh? Not sure what motivation one would have to inform when one is going to get 2 life sentances.
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He turned informant the first time he got busted. The famous bust that people like to speculate wiped out american LSD came later. But yeah, from what I've read, Pickard doesn't sound like the kind of guy that people ought to be idolizing. Wealth being the primary motivation in a person's decision to produce LSD just ends up causing problems.
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While I'm sure he accounted for much of the nation's LSD, people often don't consider that everyone went into hiding after his bust (largely due to the informant fears). Also, I've heard it was feared that ET sources would be busted and so on, down the line.
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Why do people swallow the government's cum from their self-congratulatory reach arounds?
http://www.slate.com/id/2114793/
When and where did the DEA seize the 91 pounds of LSD?
The DoJ/DEA press release attributes the number to U.S. Attorney Eric Melgren, and states that he got them from "court testimony." According to Agent Nichols, the prosecution testified at trial that 41.3 kilograms (approximately 91 pounds) of a substance containing a detectable amount of LSD were found in the silo during the search.
This is a far cry from seizing 91 pounds of LSD—or even detecting 91 pounds of LSD. What the government is really saying is that its forensic chemists detected LSD in samples taken from containers during the search, and that the contents of the containers weighed an estimated 91 pounds. How much LSD did the forensic chemists find? At Pickard's Nov. 20, 2003, sentencing hearing, DEA forensic chemist McKibben testified that "The actual amount of all the exhibits containing LSD was 198.9 grams of LSD," or about 7 ounces of LSD.
Yet the government doesn't seem to have actually seized 198.9 grams of LSD in the bust. From the wording of court documents and correspondence with Agent Nichols, the 198.9 gram figure appears to be a forensic estimate based on the concentrations of LSD found in the samples taken during searches. That is, 91 pounds of LSD-positive material were sampled and, working backward from the concentrations, the DEA calculated an actual 198.9 grams of LSD in the 91-pound lot...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/12/19/MN150948.DTL
In 1988, Pickard was picked up as he left a Mountain View warehouse used as an LSD lab. He faced 20 years in prison if convicted, but the drug charge was dropped because he had been an informant, the affidavit says.
Pickard himself told the Kansas court he had been a DEA informant since 1973 and had had periodic contact with senior DEA officials on "international cases" since 1992.
If released on bail, Pickard promised, "I would immediately proceed to report to the federal building, (and) cooperate even aggressively with DEA in any matters that they wish."
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Quote:
Koala Koolio said: While I'm sure he accounted for much of the nation's LSD, people often don't consider that everyone went into hiding after his bust (largely due to the informant fears). Also, I've heard it was feared that ET sources would be busted and so on, down the line.
The sources of ET were out of Russia which Pickard probably established during the early/mid 90's when he was a director for School of Public Policy and Social Research at UCLA. He was going to Russia to study the emeregence of new street drugs from the then impoverished chemists.
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DoorsGirl said: For awhile I believed LSD to be extinct in my area, until recently a fellow student in one of my classes informed me that he had some acid for sale.. I buy my hash and mescaline through him so i knew i could trust him. I bought 2 hits just to see how good they were. I came home, took both hits, waited....smoked some pot....waited....still waited...and nothing. I was so excited about being able to finally find LSD, to be let down tremendously from its weakness. The conviction of William Leonard Pickard (the man who kept the LSD business in this nation) has left the LSD ring battered and beaten and people like me, who seak enlightenment and thought through this wonderful drug, get affected.
If you're cute I'd give you LSD HAH!
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Thanks for the quality posts.
So, the snitch got snitched on by a new (sex offender) snitch?
Was the ET source compromised then? And, has there been any followup busts because of it?
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I was happy that fucker got life, fucking rat. I was pissed that he got busted though at the same time cause LSD practically fell off the map in many areas for years afterwards, its just now starting to make a comeback, and it still isn't even close to were it used to be. From what I've heard, the prices on grams have jumped, a lot, and a lot of LSD is now comming in from different countries. It isn't exactly easy to supply the whole US with LSD, it depends on too few people and it is too easy to disrupt the networks, it isn't like the dead is around anymore to aquire connects. Also, not as many people are going to goto jail for selling it, like they used to. (Up high) I think LSD will most likely start comming back from other countries even more so. The money in making LSD is shit compared to making fentanyl alalogues, and they both carry the same sentence. If you want to make money, LSD isn't the place for chemists, especially skilled chemists. Only time will tell, but for constant updates on what is going on around the US, microgram from the DEA is a really good source of information.www .dea.gov/programs/forensicsci/microgram/bulletins_index.html Oh and from what I've heard LSD jumped from 6 grand a gram to 20,000 a gram, this is from someone that knew people in Norcal, this is for fluff of course, but its still a fucking gip. Another thing he said when I asked him if the people did it to distribute the chemical more so than making money, he started laughing his ass off, saying they all were making shit loads of money, they always were at the best hotels, and that they were about the money just as much as every other dealer. Sounds about right, or else they woulda gave the shit away.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: Herbus]
#5749905 - 06/14/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you're cute I'd give you LSD HAH!
That's my goal in life, to get cute girls on LSD.
I hear that. Just got back from Waka and I made damn sure all the beautiful neighbors went for a magic carpet ride... Now off to Bonnaroo.
LSD has always been pretty easy for me to find, and I didn't do my first dose till after Pickard's sentencing and the overall reduction of the drug.. I also live in small-town Arkansas.... It's all just who you know. Hopefully who you know lives in the city and likes to send things in the mail.
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Halpern was the snitch. A DEA informant who brought the study of entheogens back to Harvard. Someone called him out for being a snitch during the middle of one of his lectures.
http://www.entheogenreview.com/Resources/Halperngate.pdf
I don't think any smaller fish fell because of the ET source, but I wasn't involved, so who knows.
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We've had some good mescaline around my area from time to time, but there's always loads of crap mescaline (fake), some of the stuff is awful for your body, still gets you tripping balls, but is very very bad for you. i no longer will buy mescaline in a powder except from one guy, but tahts because i know where its original source is and know for a fact that its mescaline. As for the advice "That sucks. Go pop some DXM... " thats awful advice.
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I've actually never heard of or seen mescaline before(other then from cacti)...never tried it either but I will someday for sure...and I agree that advice on dxm was terrible lol
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"We've had some good mescaline around my area from time to time, but there's always loads of crap mescaline (fake), some of the stuff is awful for your body, ..."
You don't even know what it is, how can you begin to make claims about how it is for your body? A body load for the duration of the trip perhaps, but that's not the same.
As for the mescaline, unless you're buying it from a guy who extracts it, you're probably being fooled. What did it look like, how much did it weigh?
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tickettothemoon said: We've had some good mescaline around my area from time to time, but there's always loads of crap mescaline (fake), some of the stuff is awful for your body, still gets you tripping balls, but is very very bad for you.
What "fake mescaline that makes you trip" do you speak of? If it makes you trip, its not fake mescaline, its something else, and that doesn't mean its "awful for your body".
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Fake mescaline is usually 2c-?
Ive been to enough rock/bluegrass/hippy/jazz shows as have a few other people on this thread to know that mescaline is a populare name for 2c-i and related Phenethylamines. Go figure, mescaline is a Phenethylamine. Some of the dealers dont even know that what they have is not mescaline. SOme do, and when you call them on it they laugh and offer a discount.
Never been offerd a hardy mescaline extract unless I or a friend made it themselves. Its terribly uncommon to find large amounts of mesc extract to the point where dealers get their hands on some. Synth mesc....Even less likely than an extract.
I have been offered mescaline around 30 times. It was never mescaline as I could tell once they showed it to me. No 15 mg pill is mescaline.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5754172 - 06/15/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ya I only have one source that I would trust to have the real deal(he takes pride in what he does and only deals with the best of the best) but hes never had mescaline(he'd tell me if he did) I'm sure I'll end up doing an extraction from a cactus when I try it
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"Its terribly uncommon to find large amounts of mesc extract to the point where dealers get their hands on some. Synth mesc....Even less likely than an extract."
Exactly. Once in a while, you read about a bust where mescaline was synthesized. The two I read of were just minor side projects caught up during the busts of much larger lsd synths. The amount of mescaline they had was nothing compared to the lsd which was obviously for widescale distribution. The mescaline would go out to trusted friends surely, and the general public would've never had the slightest clue. It's pretty neat, some of the smaller amounts of things listed in these busts. A little MDMA, a little DMT, etc.
People lucky enough to have friends like that aren't going to be trying to convince anyone on a public message board of what they had. A) Because they'd be proving themselves to be terrible friends of the nice chemist, with that kind of security fuck up. B) Because they'd know it's real, and special, and don't need internet reassurance. and C) Because they wouldn't be able to convince any of us here who know how rare synthetic mescaline is.
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Mescaline might come back around if the price of MDMA goes down to 2 bucks like in England, but we don't have a ton of out-of-work chemists on this side of the PM, unless we have a terrible depression and all the chemists get laid off, don't expect to see too many hard to synth drugs, unless its the flavor of the month like MDMA, MDA , or the RCs that are still legally sold via China. There isn't enough of a steady market in psychedelics at this time for people enough people to jump in that boat, though with whats happening in Mexico, if it starts getting really hard to smuggle heroin and cocaine thru mexico, don't be suprised if you start seeing a lot more fentanyl labs spring up, and if that happens, they might choose to jump in and take over the MDMA/psychedelic drug market. I doubt it will happen though, as the politicians really don't give a shit about the WOD other than for votes, and get money indirectly from drug cartels, to keep the drug laws the way they are, so the market doesn't get to sauturated, and so it doesn't get too scarce. Only time will tell.
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