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DoorsGirl
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Bad LSD
#5746915 - 06/13/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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For awhile I believed LSD to be extinct in my area, until recently a fellow student in one of my classes informed me that he had some acid for sale.. I buy my hash and mescaline through him so i knew i could trust him. I bought 2 hits just to see how good they were. I came home, took both hits, waited....smoked some pot....waited....still waited...and nothing. I was so excited about being able to finally find LSD, to be let down tremendously from its weakness. The conviction of William Leonard Pickard (the man who kept the LSD business in this nation) has left the LSD ring battered and beaten and people like me, who seak enlightenment and thought through this wonderful drug, get affected.
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doctor_gonzo
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That sucks. Go pop some DXM...
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stemmer
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I have only had weak impure lsd at worst. I Once got a research chem in an enlarged geltab(we knew something was up and it was one hell of a trip but it was definately an RC).
SOme people are privilaged enough to only have tried good lsd. I have tripped about 60-70 times on lsd and it was usually top notch(most people wouldnt dream of going above 2-3 hits). There are times where the acid was weak, and other times when the acid was impure. Not impure because of additives, impure with an excess of potent ergot-like chemicals still in the batch. Id call it "very dirty acid" but it was always certainly acid(had nothing to do with my mindset or setting, I would know). Anyone who has had some serious sandoz style "best of the best" type acid knows how that differs from some of even the nicest the blotters out there today.
Im very curious though. Since you know you can trust this guy and all, what form did your "mescaline" come in and how much did it cost? Im just wondering how much trust is due when you are buying an active chemical called "mescaline" if its not in cacti or tea/sludge form. Mescaline powder is made from cacti for the most part, and that is very rare and much harder to find than really good lsd. Sure you can make it yourself with your own cacti, but it is very seldom sold by any "dealer". So your mescaline is probably not mescaline either, that would be my guess.
Edited by stemmer (06/13/06 07:41 PM)
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747023 - 06/13/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, there's always 100 people selling "mescaline" at festivals....
I ask to see it and they bust out some gelcaps with like 10mg of pure white powder. It's never mescaline...
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DoorsGirl
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747029 - 06/13/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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This guy is the first person i ever came across who had access to mescaline, so i really have no idea how much it SHOULD go for. But it comes in crystalized form, so im guessing its lab made. A gram of the stuff goes for about $30. Too much? Even if it is, im not complaining. It's the only source of good mescaline i can find, let alone finding it AT ALL, and i dont mind the price. Acid on the other hand, years ago when i had my first encounters with LSD, i was told by the suppliers that each hit was approx. 100-125 mcgs....I was happy then. But now, im guessing the hits ive come across are either 0-50 mcgs, if it's even LSD.
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stemmer
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Exactly. Your the umphrey's mcgee fan as I recall, you would know.
I will usually just laugh and ask them what it really is, and half the time they think their 10 mg pill is actually mescaline. Less than half the time they will show it to me, I laugh and ask what it really is. They laugh and then admit that its just 2c-i. In my experience with experienced dealers they actually know what it is and it has always been 2c-?........
Edited by stemmer (06/13/06 07:46 PM)
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stemmer
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747065 - 06/13/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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One-thousand mgs of mescaline for 30 dollars is a fine price. For all the work that goes into extracting it im surprized. 30 mgs of 2ci can mix pretty well with any floury substance. Im sure people do that to make it actually look like a pretty pure form of mescaline. Im sure it can inherently fool the best of us. Given that you buy it buy the gram and the price is good, I at this point have noi idea if what you get is actually mescaline.
Im confused
Edited by stemmer (06/13/06 07:55 PM)
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DoorsGirl
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747079 - 06/13/06 07:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Perhaps, the scarcity of mescaline in my area is the cause of its high price? Whatsoever, money really is no object when it comes to my happiness
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stemmer
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30 mgs of 2ci can mix pretty well with any floury substance. Im sure people do that to make it actually look like a pretty pure form of mescaline. Im sure it can inherently fool the best of us. Given that you buy it buy the gram and the price is good, I at this point have noi idea if what you get is actually mescaline. It does jive with the weight in mescaline powder you would need for 2 trips or less.
If it is mescaline, thats not a high price is what im saying.
Edited by stemmer (06/13/06 08:01 PM)
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DoorsGirl
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747107 - 06/13/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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My mistake. I read it wrong at first. What IS mescaline supposed to look like? I was always under the impression that if created in a lab, its a white type of crystalized powder...but then again, many things can be created in a lab with the same physical properties. Ive never done 2ci, or maybe i have thinking it to be mescaline...what's the difference?
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A gram of mescaline should cost much more. If it is synthesized mescaline; extracted could be much cheaper. From what I understand it is pretty tough to make mescaline in a lab.
The one time my friends got some, I thought it was research chem though I never tried it, but they say it was mescaline, it cost 30 bucks for a single dose of it.
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Gratos
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Since when has Pickard become a folk hero?!?
EDIT: and since when did Pickard keep the dream alive?!?
Edited by Gratos (06/13/06 08:06 PM)
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DoorsGirl
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Hmmm, then i guess what my supplier has is not mescaline. Im sure he did not know this since i know for a fact he was under the impression that it WAS mescaline. I wonder what it really is....
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stemmer
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They are both Psychedelic Phenethylamines.
Not very alike experientially, but similare in some ways. Shrooms and mescaline are nothing alike in my opinion. You could more easily compare mescaline to 2ci or LSD. Try some mescaline cacti and you will likely know for sure.
Mescaline powder that is made more easily is not as pure and can even take on a red tinge. Its basically a white powder most of the time from what I have seen. Anyone who makes an extract usually does it in such a way that it yeilds white/grey crysal like powder.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: Gratos]
#5747140 - 06/13/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Gratos said: Since when has Pickard become a folk hero?!?
Pickard was my hero. For all i know, the amazingly potent LSD i used to come across most likely came from him. He was one of the largest suppliers of LSD, along with his partner (i forget the name). But when the DEA brought down his operation, they had classified it as the BIGGEST LSD bust in history, confiscating about 90 POUNDS of LSD.....my goodness, its too drool over.
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Edited by DoorsGirl (06/13/06 08:09 PM)
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stemmer
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It should cost quite a bit more for onethousand mgs of pure mesc powder.
It is kind of interesting to think how 30 mgs of 2c-i costs 20-30 dollars.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747197 - 06/13/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doorsgirl remember this is the DEA. Yes he was probably a huge supplier but don't you think they're going to say,"Hey look what great work we've done boss! We caught the biggest suppier of LSD in the country! Look boss! We're great! ...More funds." Also, 90 pounds. If he is creating it he is dealing with crystal. Imagine 90 pounds of crystal acid. That's...a lot.
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: stemmer]
#5747202 - 06/13/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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At some of the prices I've seen (in semi-bulk), that's 18-28 dollars in profit per dose.
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Gratos
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Hmm, I see. To me Pickard was a fellar' who turned informant after his first LSD bust. When he went down the second time many other LSD chemists went into hiding because they didnt trust him, they knew his history. Its sad really but, one mans hero is anothers villan I guess.
He didnt have ninety pounds of LSD either.
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DoorsGirl
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Re: Bad LSD [Re: Gratos]
#5747229 - 06/13/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess i was given false information. I never knew he turned informant..
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