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OfflineJon
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Crying...
    #5746803 - 06/13/06 06:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Is possibly the most beautiful thing people can do. I live to fucking cry about it, and its awesome.


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Re: Crying... [Re: Jon]
    #5746835 - 06/13/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

crying out of depression washes the sadness away. It can be very healing.

crying from joy uplifts the spirit and inspires new faith. It can be very enlightening.

I try to cry whenever I have to, let the barriers down and commune with my emotional nature, no matter how pleasant or unpleasant it may be.

To deny tears or laughter is to deny a part of oneself. Denial is repression, and repression can often lead to explosion at inopportune moments. Thus, a steady flow is necessary to prevent the dam from bursting.


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Re: Crying... [Re: Jon]
    #5746935 - 06/13/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

:emocry:

:bitch:

:cryariver:


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Re: Crying... [Re: Gomp]
    #5747082 - 06/13/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i'm a total cry baby
my eyes run with bliss
like hard ice emotion pooling into streams under the pressure of considering how beautiful everything is
so that my vision blurs
these things are too beautiful sometimes to look upon them anymore

wiping the tears away does no good
stay blinded in this rapture of joy & laughter
just let the cup overflow
like blood from the brow of christ
like the wee little wailing voice of a newborn baby emerging
from her mother's pinnacle of hysteria
with the droplets of blood from her torn vagina

even now swell the billowing white clouds in my heart
brought to life by the warmth of my passion for Life & Love
this storm will soon crack the heavens open again
with it's Light & Music
to wash cool fresh waters into the fertile soil of the world
.O. my tears, they fall like rain
sometimes you have seen them yes?


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Re: Crying... [Re: Telepylus]
    #5748313 - 06/14/06 01:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Crying to get attention is not allowed.

go on


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Re: Crying... [Re: slaphappy]
    #5748392 - 06/14/06 02:30 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Crying... [Re: Telepylus]
    #5748399 - 06/14/06 02:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Whats next? Crying fluffy bunnies?

OK, I get the point of crying now.

Its purpose is to get attention. Telepylus, yet again, you impress me immensly.


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Re: Crying... [Re: slaphappy]
    #5748682 - 06/14/06 05:27 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

hehe..


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Re: Crying... [Re: slaphappy]
    #5749835 - 06/14/06 02:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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slaphappy said:
Whats next? Crying fluffy bunnies?
OK, I get the point of crying now.
Its purpose is to get attention.






i wouldn't say its purpose is to get attention, although that may be part of it's function. or symptomatic of its energy.

when i cry, it's not about attention, it's done in private(or in the presence of my lover)-
and it's actually quite disgusting to most people, to see a man exhibit feelings of tenderness & sensitivity toward beauty & graceful mercy.

it's not about sadness or attention.
it's about channelling the pure unfettered emotional force of the planet through your body. witnessing the truth of things, however awful or glorious.

i recall a south park episode
chef is talking to stan
telling him how god loves to see us cry
so that he can drink the sweet milk of our tears to feel better about himself, lol

something like that


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Re: Crying... [Re: Telepylus]
    #5749889 - 06/14/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I don't like crybabies, most crybabies are narcs, they go off cry to someone about their ill feeling, like their the only ones with problems in the world, then you go around holding their hand so they don't have another emotional episode at your expense.

But I guess if its something real then crying healthy, I don't really find much use for it.


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Re: Crying... [Re: capliberty]
    #5749966 - 06/14/06 03:13 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i love cry babies.
dramatic hissy fitters.
moody whiners.

something in me likes to sooth away other peoples problems and troubles.
to wipe away someone elses sadness is a way of taking my mind off my self.

and, i'd said that when a man cries it is disgusting.
but it's more disgusting when a man becomes totally insensitive and unable to facilitate his emotions.


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Re: Crying... [Re: capliberty]
    #5750106 - 06/14/06 03:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so are you saying that those who feel pain should just lock that inside and bear that burden alone? Even if the pain that person feels is the result of unjust actions perpetrated against him by evil people?

there is a difference between crying and being a cry baby. If you can't see this, you are emotionally cripple, cold and distance, and completely without compassion.

I pity you.


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Re: Crying... [Re: Telepylus]
    #5750113 - 06/14/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

did you make a typo tele or are you saying a man crying is disgusting? that's absurd.

crying is like vomiting.

it gets all the toxins and poisons out of you so they don't build up and destroy you later. it hurts at first but then it feels really good.

there is little such thing as "men" and "women" only gender roles for people of both sexes to fall into. in society women have become more masculine and assertive through access to careers and education.

men are becoming more femnine by getting in tune with things that actually matter (i.e. who cares about wrestling grizzly bears and lifting tons of weights? if you can do those things then that's cool but there's more to living then that)

if men weren't supposed to cry they wouldn't have feelings.


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Re: Crying... [Re: DoctorJ]
    #5750126 - 06/14/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

DoctorJ said:


there is a difference between crying and being a cry baby.




I would even assert that there is no such thing as a cry baby.

Just as one man's trash is another man's treasure, one mans papercut is another one's gaping wound.

Go up to 30 people and say "you're ugly" and one might cry. The insult has little to do with it, it is just that that person was already wounded to begin with, probably had an extremely low self-esteem from being abused by peers while growing up, and has a very fresh wound that is easy to penetrate.

If you say it to 30 different people many might laugh, some might get angry, some won't feel anything at all, some will give you love, some will have so much pain already existing in their systems that they don't know how to heal and fix, that it will tear open their newly dressed wounds.

This person is not a cry baby. This person is a human being that needs proper mending and attention. That needs emotional support to say "it is okay to be alive, and it is okay to be you, and there is nothing wrong with being you, so fuck what anyone else thinks. I love you"

cry babies wouldn't exist without bullies.

And the circumstances do NOT matter!
If you destroy a 3 year olds favorite stuffed animal he will cry and cry and be in so much more pain than a CEO ever would if he got his BMW stolen.

and if that CEO is brought to gut wrenching tears, his loss is just as great as the child losing his teddy bear.

of course, it's not entirely that absolute..... for a teddy is easier to replace, but the immediate pain is the same. the coping is different.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (06/14/06 04:02 PM)


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Re: Crying... [Re: leery11]
    #5750310 - 06/14/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, impressive post. :thumbup:

Nice understanding you are developing there. :wink:

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Re: Crying... [Re: leery11]
    #5750371 - 06/14/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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leery11 said:
did you make a typo tele or are you saying a man crying is disgusting? that's absurd.

if men weren't supposed to cry they wouldn't have feelings.





what you are saying doesn't add up.
you are saying it's absurd for me to say a man crying is disgusting, as if you have experience with that.
but obviously you don't, because if you did you'd know that what i'm saying is totally true.

i've had many lovers in my life, and many friends, and sure, sometimes they will pretend that it's not disgusting for a man to cry.
but you can see it on their face, in their body language.

and more, most human beings care more about the dog crying in the street, than the human being crying.


men crying is sort of an attempt of breaking away from deep seated programming of gender roles. that's why i allow myself to do it.
i try to be as sterotypically feminine as possible, to balance out my brutish arrogant testosterone driven manhood.

i think it's disgusting when men cry too
kinda like when a baby's butt is smeared with stinky poop
that's not to say it's not a good thing
it is what it is


Edited by Telepylus (06/14/06 05:56 PM)


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Re: Crying... [Re: Telepylus]
    #5750425 - 06/14/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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and if you ever were in the presense of a crying man, you would vomit and run, just like everyone else does.



That's some wicked generalization... Why is it disguisting to see a man crying? Perhaps cuz he's showing his human side is of greater importance than some shitty stereotype given by "authorities" of how one should act?
They say real men don't cry, this is fear of emotions. I say only real men are capable of crying (don't confuse this with "only real men cry", for not everyone needs tears to experience the rainbow)

I do not "allow" myself to cry, nor do i push myself into crying, it happens spontaneously, when the need arises.


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Re: Crying... [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5750487 - 06/14/06 06:22 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Triplexiosis said:
They say real men don't cry, this is fear of emotions.




Why is this necessarily fear of emotions?

Perhaps the reason why "real men" do not exhibit emotional displays such as crying is due to the fact that they, simply, do not experience the emotions that would naturally trigger such displays?

There are going to be a variety of reasons why people do cry or do not cry. :shrug:

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Re: Crying... [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5750580 - 06/14/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps I should rephrase that  :grin:
I was refering to people who would refuse to cry even if their lives depended on it, people who, if caught crying by themselves all alone would put themselves down, finding it to be wrong or unnatural.
It's kinda hard to express myself properly in english (excuses, excuses :P)
peace


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Re: Crying... [Re: Triplexiosis]
    #5750733 - 06/14/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

When we cry, we are all the same. We are all weak and helpless, I beleive its gesture of pure honesty we cant seem to control. We could be liars our entire lives, but the only thing we cannot fool ourselves with is crying. I see beauty in it because it means we can all be honest at a point in our lives, and we dont really have to be pessimistic and beleive all people are evil, there are signs. I dont really know the words to say it, but I know some older smarter shroomer can reword what im trying to say.


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