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Jon
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Marijuana affects my pride
#5745735 - 06/13/06 01:25 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Today I realized that weed screws with my confidence for some reason. I felt great at work today, and I was all secure and stuff, then I go home and smoke pot and I get irrationally insecure. This is sort of a new effect, but I just want to know if anyone else faces the same problem?
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Jon]
#5745744 - 06/13/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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your poor little ego can't handle the cannabis. lolz
you're just bugging out mentally. talk yourself out of it, if necessary. ha
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Teragon]
#5745769 - 06/13/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have the same problem. Many people do. Try to do what Teragon said or try cutting back.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Mr_Brown]
#5745820 - 06/13/06 01:47 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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its better than thinking about death
i hate that shit it brings you really down
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Mr_Brown]
#5745828 - 06/13/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yup, iv felt this quite a bit. Just tell yourself its not reality and you will feel fine.
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TheHateCamel
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Jon]
#5745835 - 06/13/06 01:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Teragons big fat ego crushes herb like a bug.
Lay off the dope for a while and relax or it's going to get worse.
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Jon
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: TheHateCamel]
#5745874 - 06/13/06 02:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea I think its about time I took a break from weed. U think a month is adequate?
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Jon
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Jon]
#5745884 - 06/13/06 02:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jon said: yea I think its about time I took a break from weed. U think a month is adequate?
You see? I subconciously lower cased the first word in the sentence because "U" is more worthy of being uppercased than I am! Why am I so lower cased!!!!
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Jon]
#5745908 - 06/13/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your personality isn't real. Don't be dragged down by an illusion!
Check out "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Jon]
#5745940 - 06/13/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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wow, dude you're just stoned, relax you're thinking that this stuff matters, placing too much importance on your ego created thoughts. just let them pass, don't hold on! change the moment, evolve , concentrate on fun, not fear
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Teragon]
#5745974 - 06/13/06 02:28 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Teragon said: you're just bugging out mentally. talk yourself out of it, if necessary. ha
i g2g with what Teragon said man i did that the first few times i ever smoked but now im fine and i realize my own mind set while high and general surrounding play out what my mood will be like during and after being high.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#5746268 - 06/13/06 03:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel a drug that can bring me down that much is not worth my time. That is why I don't fuck with weed anymore.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: doctor_gonzo]
#5746321 - 06/13/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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when people say weed is not for everyone its for a reason
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DinahTheCat
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Exactally, similar to how one might enjoy the spirtual experience of an ethnogen, inducing a "death and rebirth" effect during the trip.(Something also more intense, with more insight, yet with more physical effects) Plants such as b. caapi and ayhausaca trips seems to interest less than more available and profit making drugs, such as coke or heroin.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5746361 - 06/13/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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actauuly well yeah it just depends the person and the person's life, considering the current or past experiences that could effect their high. (example, paronoia, i sometimes get paronoid, but its almost always due to an event) Mindset and location are nessessities when it comes to trips, and would defintely benefit weed experiences.
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Edited by DinahTheCat (06/13/06 04:31 PM)
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5746438 - 06/13/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Paranoia is quite common with pot. Stressful locations can make it worse.
How about just relaxing with some friends and a good movie, and perhaps a liiiittle bit of bud. Not much.
Go for a giggly high again.
Or, as mentioned earlier, take a break and go clean for a while.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: DinahTheCat]
#5746463 - 06/13/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i know exactly wat you mean man. that used to happen to me all the time. i would get blazed and start thinking about how many other better things i could be doing instead of being high(im sure u know wat i mean). it also made me really burnt out by the time it was like 8 or 9 at night, and i'd fall asleep early all the time.i really hated those feelings of lowness and unmotivation, so i decided to cut back multiple months ago.
now, i ONLY(except some weekends) smoke at night, that way when im high i can just reflect back and think about everything i've done and accomplished during the day, and be satisfied. like i wont have to worry about being productive with my time any more because i know i went the whole day without being high and i handled everything i had to do. And finally at night when i do get high, i say to myself "i deserve this and its my reward for all of the shit i've been doing today", u know? that makes me feel really good about myslef.
so thats how i dealt with that problem. i just did everything i had to do during the day, and at night i would get blazed, relax and be completely satisfied and i must say i have a greater appreciation and respect for weed now. and my life seems to be alot better
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This always happens to me when i smoke, i feel dirty and bad... Ill be covered in food and ill be stumbling around and i feel like a bad person, the best thing thats ALWAYS worked for me is if you get high with everyone, but thats just me
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: AA2277]
#5746581 - 06/13/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heres a good trick for you bro:
instead of thinking about yourself, and what people think about YOU, think about other people, what they probably think of themselves, and what they're REALLY thinking when they talk to you.
Are you a likeable person? Can people approach you? Do you have cool friends that you like to hang with?
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: AA2277]
#5746585 - 06/13/06 05:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Marijuana, especially in high doses, can bring latent mental issues to the surface. If you feel "dirty", "bad", "unconfident", etc it is because on some level you really do feel that way, and your sober mind has built up a good mechanism for suppressing it. It's up to you to find out why you feel that way. I'm still on that journey
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: AA2277]
#5746594 - 06/13/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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To my knowledge, cutting back has no positive effect whatsoever on the drugs effects and actually makes matters worse quite often. Now, if during the break drastic and positive changes to your mental state have been made, then things might improve a bit when you resume smoking again... for the time-being.
I like the idea about reflecting on positive things you've done during the day and only smoking at night , however this presumes that positive things have actually taken place, which is rare due to the amotivational side-effect.
My advice is not to smoke anymore - been there and done that. You'll only become more sensitive to its effects and get dragged down further and further in my experience.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: AA2277]
#5746628 - 06/13/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm convinced that a good amount of this effect is due to the illegality and taboo surrounding cannabis and its use. Especially when one considers that while you're under its effects your subconscious is a little more in reach. Add to that the fact that the majority of us (in the US anyways) have been exposed to probably thousands of instances of anti-drug propoganda: commercials, news reports, rumors and untruths, parents, police etc.
You're bound to be sensitive and get down on yourself. I went though a period of that and had to realize that I was not a bad person, I was not stupid, I was not lazy (though one could be...), I was not destroying society. I took a few experiences to focus soley on these aspects and afterwards, the feelings mostly passed or became managable.
This phenomenon is part of a theory I have on why certain drug users become...downtrodden because of their use while others continue to lead their own lives. After being told that something is bad, evil, wrong, treasonous for twenty years and then identifying oneself with it, the natural subconscious urge is to categorize. You say that I'm bad? Fine...guess I'm bad.
I like hoopershroomer's perspective. Get your affairs in order and then partake. What are they going to say to you then? We all know there's nothing wrong with and by taking that approach, there's nothing different between you and them except their prejudice. Hang in there and hold your head up!
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Lion]
#5746629 - 06/13/06 06:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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bug said: Marijuana, especially in high doses, can bring latent mental issues to the surface. If you feel "dirty", "bad", "unconfident", etc it is because on some level you really do feel that way, and your sober mind has built up a good mechanism for suppressing it. It's up to you to find out why you feel that way. I'm still on that journey
Yeah... Anyone can feel bad or dirty, it's how you interpret the message. If you take the feelings which suggest you're actually a bad person, and take them to heart... of course you'll feel like you're a bad person because you've convinced yourself. It is my opinion that weed does this, it happens to me all the time. It's just irrational thinking, and weed makes it seem rational. Relax, and if these ego games get out of control, do something about it. Stop smoking dope, or try smoking a strain that produces a different high that you find easier to manage. I get these problems all the time, in the end, don't consider them to be too important.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: today mylove]
#5746744 - 06/13/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can say the main problem i rarely have with weed is paronia, and being burnt out. 1, i can avoid paronoia by being on the "Safe" side, and take precautions to avoid confrontation or being caught. 2, I dont get burnt out anymore due to my daily dose of adderall, which defintely allows me to smoke and do more than i usually would have the motivation to do.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Jon]
#5746875 - 06/13/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I smoke I just get quiet, lazy, tired, and hungry. I do not get happy, giggly, open, or anything positive. I just withdraw into myself and then pig out (which makes me feel terrible because I'm trying to lose weight).
I am currently in the process of quitting weed completely. It is not worth it to me at all, but I am so used to smoking each night before bed. I've got to stop!
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Amber_Glow]
#5746910 - 06/13/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't know how to go to sleep any other way. I've got the same problem ha ha
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: today mylove]
#5746945 - 06/13/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Whenever I smoke I always get quiet, introverted, paranoid, I always think everyones making fun of me, I get tried. Usually i'll end up not saying a word for hours when im real high with a group of friend. I get in such a deep thought of just a bunch fucked up things. Its normal though. This is the reason I hate weed, unless im on other drugs is the only time I wont get those effects from it. Taking a break wont help, I was the same exact way the fist time I ever smoked. Im gonna be on probation a month from today so I finally have a reason to quit.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Crillz]
#5747227 - 06/13/06 08:23 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright, well it seems some like it alot, some kinda like it, and some flat out find the weed high unenjoyable. Case closed
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: toastandjam]
#5747319 - 06/13/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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toastandjam said: I'm convinced that a good amount of this effect is due to the illegality and taboo surrounding cannabis and its use. Especially when one considers that while you're under its effects your subconscious is a little more in reach. Add to that the fact that the majority of us (in the US anyways) have been exposed to probably thousands of instances of anti-drug propoganda: commercials, news reports, rumors and untruths, parents, police etc.
You're bound to be sensitive and get down on yourself. I went though a period of that and had to realize that I was not a bad person, I was not stupid, I was not lazy (though one could be...), I was not destroying society. I took a few experiences to focus soley on these aspects and afterwards, the feelings mostly passed or became managable.
This phenomenon is part of a theory I have on why certain drug users become...downtrodden because of their use while others continue to lead their own lives. After being told that something is bad, evil, wrong, treasonous for twenty years and then identifying oneself with it, the natural subconscious urge is to categorize. You say that I'm bad? Fine...guess I'm bad.
I like hoopershroomer's perspective. Get your affairs in order and then partake. What are they going to say to you then? We all know there's nothing wrong with and by taking that approach, there's nothing different between you and them except their prejudice. Hang in there and hold your head up!
I agree 100%. I was going to make a reply similar to this. Read what this guy says. When you smoke weed, you think in the back of your head "oh my parents don't like me doing this", "this is illegal and I am a bad person" and etc. The fact that it is illegal and looked down on by society makes you feel bad about yourself. Try to realize this and overcome. Thanks
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Nexus555]
#5747346 - 06/13/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Simple thing here.
If it adveresly affects you, don't do it.... is it so hard?
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Jon]
#5748410 - 06/14/06 02:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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for some ppl weed induces anxiety
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Atheist]
#5748478 - 06/14/06 03:23 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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SpicyTunaRoll said: its better than thinking about death
i hate that shit it brings you really down
Yeah tell me about it. It's one of those things you can get lost in if you don't keep your head in the right place.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Newbie]
#5748611 - 06/14/06 04:46 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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solution:
stop smoking pot if its not making you feel good it can't be good for you... even if it is a drug and you get 'high' you're just lying to urself trying to make urself enjoy it.
try another drug, perhaps? or abstain for a while
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: indica]
#5748766 - 06/14/06 06:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Weed definitely increases anxiety in me. I think it's only because my mind goes blank and I can't think of anything to say around people so I become anxious. But it does put you a little on edge anyway if you are not a naturally relaxed person. I do enjoy it at night when alon though, but find that I am not very productive. So for those reasons I have quit. Also, I have been into meditation a lot lately and pot is no good for that. You just fall asleep or your mind wonders forever. Meditation is hard enough to do correctly anyway.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: MasFina]
#5748774 - 06/14/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd also like to add that because pot is such a widely accepted drug, like alcohol, peer pressure is a big issue for some. If all of your friends are sitting around getting high you don't want to smoke you will likely recieve criticism or they will think you have a problem, which you do. I would say that those who experience anxiety when high should simply quit smoking untill they get their anxiety under control by lifestyle changes like exercise and meditation.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: MasFina]
#5749343 - 06/14/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Same thing happened to me. My confidence took a huge hit from smoking(and i used to be a cocky bastard). BUTTT the good side is. You learn ALOT about yourself, and if anything, after a while...you rebuild your confidence and the weed doesnt fuck with you like that anymore, and the new found "pride" is much more real.
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Re: Marijuana affects my pride [Re: Newbie]
#5750068 - 06/14/06 03:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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NewbieShroomie said:
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SpicyTunaRoll said: its better than thinking about death
i hate that shit it brings you really down
Yeah tell me about it. It's one of those things you can get lost in if you don't keep your head in the right place.
Maybe something that crosses over into another thread, but what's wrong or bad about thinking about death? If it brings you down so much, maybe think about it some more...
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