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Gomp
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What, is eternal!?
#5745088 - 06/13/06 08:26 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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What is unchanging? I only find change to be… (Unchanging that is…)
Hehehe…
...ever changing change!
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AlteredAgain
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Gomp]
#5745702 - 06/13/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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now is eternal.
the ever-changing now.
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Gomp
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<random ramble>
0 = sign of infinity.. 8 = sign of eternity..
Experi·entially Experi·mentally..
</random ramble>
Edited by Gomp (06/13/06 05:20 PM)
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Gomp]
#5746946 - 06/13/06 07:24 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gomp, sometimes I worry about you...
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PhanTomCat
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Gomp]
#5747263 - 06/13/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Time **seems** eternal as well, as it is always time to change, and time is always changing....

>^;;^<
-------------------- I'll be your midnight French Fry.... "The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...." >^;;^<
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Gomp]
#5747381 - 06/13/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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pure genius, as usual, Mr C.
my hat's off to you, old friend
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slaphappy
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5748305 - 06/14/06 01:49 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even change changes.
Nothing is constant.
-------------------- The argent messenger of truth beyond truth, the antithesis of life, cruel and bleak as interstellar space, pulseless and frozen as absolute zero, dazzling with the frost of irrefragable logic and unforgettable fact.

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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#5750778 - 06/14/06 07:27 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
PhanTomCat said: Time **seems** eternal as well, as it is always time to change, and time is always changing....

>^;;^<
space moves through time, time moves through eternity.
they can all seem eternal though because we cannot see the point at which they merge.
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Edited by AlteredAgain (06/14/06 07:29 PM)
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Schwammel
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""""""What is unchanging? I only find change to be… (Unchanging that is…)
Hehehe…
...ever changing change!""""""
hi Gomp
do me a favor and keep reading this post until it changes!
let me know if it dose...
thumbs up!
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shroomydan
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Gomp]
#5750935 - 06/14/06 08:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Schwammel
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: shroomydan]
#5750965 - 06/14/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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there's multiple eternals...
millions.
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shroomydan
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Schwammel]
#5751004 - 06/14/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nope, just one. Read the link I posted.
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Schwammel
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: shroomydan]
#5751054 - 06/14/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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this one?
"""The changeable vs. unchangeable paradox is the basis of my whole proof.
Your error lies in failing to understand what it means to be eternal.
Not only is the eternal being without a beginning or an end in time, his existence is larger than, and encompasses, the entirety of the space/time continuum. The eternal being possesses the complete fullness of his life in a single moment of infinite duration.
The past, the present, and the future are laid out before God like cards on a table. He sees all moments of time from his eternal now, and when he acts, he acts in the eternal now, yet the effects of his action are felt at different moments in time.
The eternal now is simultaneous with every moment in time. Imagine a bicycle wheel. Eternity is the hub and time is the rim. Every moment in time is simultaneous with eternity, in the same way that every position on the rim is connected to the hub by a spoke. While all of time is simultaneous with eternity, all moments in time remain separated from one another in the temporal realm, just as 45 degrees is distinct from 90 degrees on the wheel.
When God acts from eternity, his effects are felt in time in a chronological order, yet from the eternal perspective God remains unchanged.
Thus, God can perceive something happening in time, react to it, and yet remain unchanged, for he perceives and reacts to the temporal event from the eternal now.
-------------------- "A Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it." -John """
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Schwammel
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Schwammel]
#5751068 - 06/14/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a problem with this...
"""Your error lies in failing to understand what it means to be eternal.
Not only is the eternal being without a beginning or an end in time, his existence is larger than, and encompasses, the entirety of the space/time continuum. """
I don't beleive it
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Schwammel
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Schwammel]
#5751078 - 06/14/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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my problem is I don't beleive in errors and i don't beleive in being.
Edited by Schwammel (06/14/06 08:36 PM)
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Schwammel
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Schwammel]
#5751160 - 06/14/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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i read your hyperlink...
so you assume eternity exist, with a beginning and an end?
I assume nothing; and my question doesn't exist...
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Gomp
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Schwammel]
#5752377 - 06/15/06 04:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Schwammel said: """"""What is unchanging? I only find change to be… (Unchanging that is…)
Hehehe…
...ever changing change!""""""
hi Gomp
do me a favor and keep reading this post until it changes!
let me know if it dose...
thumbs up!
It just did..
"if you are frightened of dying, and holding on, you will see devils tearing your life away. But if you are at your peace, you will see angels, .. releasing you from the old world...
..It's just a matter of how you look at 'the very same being'." -- From the film: Jacob's Ladder (1990)
Perceptions...

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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: Gomp]
#5753142 - 06/15/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Death is for your own good. You're just too dense to realize it."
-Me
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Gomp
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Re: What, is eternal!? [Re: DoctorJ]
#5753411 - 06/15/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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