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guitarman
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maybe you can only get stuck if you believe you can. do people just get stuck in a dream and then there body never wakes up? until it dies in a couple weeks or something?
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: guitarman]
#5751712 - 06/14/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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NO, just parts of your awareness. People that have fallen victim loose much of their awareness. Sure, they still "live" but not like they did before... More like drones lost in thought - less like people who live in the moment.
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EquilibriuM
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"Inorganic Beings we coexist with, that move energetically at a much lower speed than we do. Only through dreaming can we balance our energy sufficiently to see them."
"Inorganic beings "populate a world parallel to ours." They are "awareness that is not attached to a being but to an energetic concentration." In "dreaming," sorcerers have "tremendous interaction with them. Dreams are hatches that allow sorcerers to interact with inorganic beings. We use inorganic beings to take us to new levels of perception. The presence of inorganic beings is automatic; when we empty our minds of thoughts, they become bound to sorcerers by the same kind of affection that binds us to our pets. Then sorcerers start constructing the idea of inorganic beings in the image of creatures they know in this world."
"After finding the intruder in your dreams, you can stop and ask it where it comes from. The intruder is compelled to take your awareness to other worlds, stupendous worlds, a twin universe. "
"We only need energy. This is real, not theory, and as a practitioner, I say we can all do it. Eventually in dreaming, everything will shift. One day your attention becomes arrested or fixed by something in the dream, and you don't know why you won't be able to move until it releases you. Your attention is caught by an inorganic being. They have more awareness than us, but we have more energy. We are like powerful bullets of energy that burn brightly. They last forever and their awareness can hold us.
Now we will begin to hear the voice of the Emissary. It will answer any questions. When we hear its voice as a female, we are hearing its true voice. It is by nature female. Don't indulge yourself with the dream Emissary. Tell it to stay out of your affairs. Don't let it feed off you for free."
the inorganic beings are after our awareness. they fish for it. they are capable of catering to our desires, by pampering and indulging us.. Beware of awareness that is immobile.
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bhamlaxy
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For some reason a majority of my dreams are lucid. I have never really tried to make them that way, they just are. Nearly all the time I know that its a dream, and I explain it to the people around me, and even pinch myself saying it doesnt hurt, so i must be dreaming. Then I do crazy things like jump off cliffs or have sex with random people because I know its not real.
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Ryan_12
One Toke OverThe Line

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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5752176 - 06/15/06 01:50 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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This probably isn't what your looking for but i thought i'd put it out there anyway. Theres an herb called mugwort which can help produce lucid dreams. These dreams aren't always good though so you have to be prepared for it to go either way. Has anyone tried this herb? because i'm interested in it but i myself have never smoked it.
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astraalialma
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: Ryan_12]
#5752262 - 06/15/06 02:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've had lucids where I have flown (like superman or with a strange device), walked through a wall, made a car spawn right in front of me and in case of beautiful girl appearing in lucid dream I many times have gotten skin to skin 
I had my first lucid when I was a kid. I read the Finnish version of "Donald Duck magazine" where someone asked someone to pinch her to see if he was dreaming or not. Somehow I remembered this in my dream so I did this "reality test" in my dream, I pinched myself and felt no pain -"I'm dreaming!" I screamed in the dream and woke up I guess. I talked about my dream to my parents and friends but they thought its nothing special and I never had the idea that could control the dream from there on.. so I later forgot about "reality testing". But later on life I found this site about lucids and after just reading about the subject I had few lucids in the following nights. So go ahead and read about the techniques and forums of lucid dreaming and you might end up having one lucid dream yourself the next night.
I think there is no danger. The only real danger I can think of.. thou don't think its very likely is the case when you are wake stage and you see something strange and think that you must be dreaming, then you might end up doing something you might do only in dreams which could lead into awkward situations or injury. What do you think?
This talk about "inorganic beings" .. wtf? just go sleep with a foil-hat on your head. The inorganic beings are graving for organic brains so this "inorganic barrier" (the foil-hat) keeps the beings from penetrating into your brain.
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TurricaN
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Quote:
EquilibriuM said:
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TurricaN said: Exactly. It cannot. Anyone who say's otherwise is a delusional retard who is talking a load of bollocks.
I say otherwise. I am not delusional or a retard. (Quite intelligent actually) It's all about your level of awareness. If you are not aware of the inorganic beings, then you have nothing to worry about. They are only interested in those who are aware. You have a mind to open and much to learn, better start getting to it chap.
Please, do quote some references to research and examples of this, or explain how you actually came to learn this.
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: bhamlaxy]
#5752520 - 06/15/06 06:55 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a lot of dreams where I become lucid as well...I don't seem to have any control tho
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David_vs_Goliath
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I have had total control in numerous dreams. In one i was snowboarding and i realized i was in a dream so i started doing flips and all these crazy things and easily doing whatever i wanted, none the less it was awesome. Second one I was with some hot girl and i realized i was dreaming so we had sex. Third I was in class in high school and I realized it was a dream so i started telling the teacher off it was quite funny.
But alot of the time in the middle of the dream I will realize I am dreaming but get scared and i can't convince my self it is realy a dream. Like I will be like this is a dream I want to jump out that window but then Ill be like but what if it isnt a dream then I will die so i get scared and never do anything.
-------------------- "People living deeply have no fear of death." "Love the animals, love the plants, love everything. If you love everything, you will perceive the divine mystery in things. Once you perceive it, you will begin to comprehend it better every day. And you will come at last to love the whole world with an all-embracing love." "Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings."
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Rainman420
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I have lucid dreams all the time. I never realized people actually write books about them though. The first lucid dream i can remember i was with my parents going to buy a huge warehouse for some random reason. I then thought why would we be buying a warehouse, then i realized i was dreaming. so i got to the top and jumped off in an attempt to fly. I didn't make it the first try. But then i developed my own way of flying. I just lifted my arms and statred to take off. i flew around a town that i have never seen in real life and then i went to the ground. I got in a random car with some hot girl, and i fucked her in my dream. After that she disapeared. It was wierd. I did similar things and then woke up. Since then i have been having dreams where i realize i am dreaming and i can for the most part control things and people around me. It is pretty fun i guess. One other time i was having sex with some random girl and while i was still in her she turned into a bottle it was soo wierd. Funny how dreams work some times.
-------------------- The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.
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Iamthewalrus
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everytime I become lucid in a dream I struggle to wake up(especially if its a nightmare) I then seem to get caught in a loop where I get outta bed(still dreaming tho) and try and flick on the light...lights never work in my dreams so when its dead I know I'm still dreaming...when I was a kid if I became lucid I would wake up emmediately(sp?) but not anymore...guess I should learn to just go with it
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EquilibriuM
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When I let emotion enter my dream, I usually wake up. I can almost always get back into the dream within a minute or so just by holding the images in my mind. Also when your dream gets bad, you can always switch dreams...
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TurricaN
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What EquilibriuM, so you're not going to confirm that your ideas are anything more than delusion with some actual references?
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