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David_vs_Goliath
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Lucid Dreaming
#5744566 - 06/13/06 12:20 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sorry if this is in the wrong forum but i just read something about it and i remembered a few lucid dreams I have had.
-Is anyone here able to fully control when they have lucid dreams? Any suggestions on how to have them? -What is the craziest lucid dream you have had?
Anything else about lucid dreaming is welcome
-------------------- "People living deeply have no fear of death." "Love the animals, love the plants, love everything. If you love everything, you will perceive the divine mystery in things. Once you perceive it, you will begin to comprehend it better every day. And you will come at last to love the whole world with an all-embracing love." "Our problems are man-made, therefore they may be solved by man. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings."
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Phishe
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Lucid dreaming is something that fascinates me. I have never been able to do so(i have bad dream recall). It's intrigues me, your basically a god of this reality, depending on how much control you have.
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EquilibriuM
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This is serious stuff. Your life and well being may depend on this decision, think it over...
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Phishe
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Quote:
EquilibriuM said: This is serious stuff. Your life and well being may depend on this decision, think it over...
how so, is it really that big of a thing?
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: Phishe]
#5744611 - 06/13/06 12:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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It can be. Your messing with perception. You could EASILY get lost forever if you go farther then you are ready for. Too many people treat this kind of shit like a "game" for "fun". Then they soon loose their grip...
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ultramarv
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Lucid dreaming is something I'm quite familiar with. I started learning about it roughly five years ago and since then I have lucid dreams roughly once a month. The degree to which I can control the dreams varies wildly. I've been able to fly before, but I have had many experiences where it seems I become trapped inside a game of my own mind.
My first lucid dream ever I found myself in the money pit of Scrooge McDuck from Ducktales. The robber people (can't remember their names) were robbing him blind, and some female duck was hitting on me. I realized I was dreaming and told the robbers that thievery was unnecessary; it's all a dream. They nodded and stacks of cash began appearing in front of them, much to their satisfaction. I tried the same and it wouldn't work, and then I woke up.
I've had several lucid dreams that are more akin to horror movies than fastastic experiences in manipulating my subconscious. On several occasions, I have become trapped somewhere and then realized I was dreaming. One time the walls were closing in on me, and I said, "I'm dreaming. Open up walls!" I then woke up into another dream, and the walls again started closing in on me. This repeated several times before I eventually accepted that my subconscious wanted me to have a bad dream, and so I just lay still and let it happen until I woke. These "layered dreams" happen a couple of times each year, and with these lucid dreams I have absolutely no control -- just the knowledge that I'm in a transient dream.
Lucid dreaming's really cool, but sometimes really frustrating. The best book on the web if you can find it is called "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" by Laberge or something similar.
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EquilibriuM
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I'm not saying you shouldn't get into it, God knows we need more dreamers. What I am saying is that this is a serious thing. Come at it with unbending intent or don't come at all.
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Phishe
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: ultramarv]
#5744624 - 06/13/06 12:41 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, i never really heard of lucid dreaming as being anything harmful. Im pretty sure its safe but whatever.
Theres a really good movie about it called "waking life" crazy, crazy movie.
I suggest everyone to read about it or to check it out.
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: ultramarv]
#5744630 - 06/13/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ultramarv said: Lucid dreaming is something I'm quite familiar with. I started learning about it roughly five years ago and since then I have lucid dreams roughly once a month. The degree to which I can control the dreams varies wildly. I've been able to fly before, but I have had many experiences where it seems I become trapped inside a game of my own mind.
My first lucid dream ever I found myself in the money pit of Scrooge McDuck from Ducktales. The robber people (can't remember their names) were robbing him blind, and some female duck was hitting on me. I realized I was dreaming and told the robbers that thievery was unnecessary; it's all a dream. They nodded and stacks of cash began appearing in front of them, much to their satisfaction. I tried the same and it wouldn't work, and then I woke up.
I've had several lucid dreams that are more akin to horror movies than fastastic experiences in manipulating my subconscious. On several occasions, I have become trapped somewhere and then realized I was dreaming. One time the walls were closing in on me, and I said, "I'm dreaming. Open up walls!" I then woke up into another dream, and the walls again started closing in on me. This repeated several times before I eventually accepted that my subconscious wanted me to have a bad dream, and so I just lay still and let it happen until I woke. These "layered dreams" happen a couple of times each year, and with these lucid dreams I have absolutely no control -- just the knowledge that I'm in a transient dream.
Lucid dreaming's really cool, but sometimes really frustrating. The best book on the web if you can find it is called "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" by Laberge or something similar.
Can you go into another dream at will? Can you choose where you want to go? (in other words, are there some familiar dream-places that you can go back to when shit gets out of control?)
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Phishe
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: Phishe]
#5744650 - 06/13/06 12:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Phishe said: Well, i never really heard of lucid dreaming as being anything harmful. Im pretty sure its safe but whatever.
Theres a really good movie about it called "waking life" crazy, crazy movie.
I suggest everyone to read about it or to check it out.
Yes, I know the movie well, its really good. Lucid dreaming is safe, inorganic beings are unsafe. These things all depend on your level of awareness. If you are not very aware, you don't have anything to worry about (other entities wont care about your existence). If you are ultra aware you will be able to avoid most potential problems easily. But if you are somewhere in the middle, you will have to rely on your impeccability to help you survive the dreaming worlds. No man is born a God.
Its funny you say that your pretty sure its safe when you have no experience with it.
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ultramarv
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EquilibriuM said: Can you go into another dream at will? Can you choose where you want to go? (in other words, are there some familiar dream-places that you can go back to when shit gets out of control?)
If shit gets out of control I can just get really adamant that I want to wake and my accelerated heartrate and visceral functions will wake me up, but then a couple of moments later I'll realize that I'm in another dream. Repeating a couple of times will wake me up for real, but it's only gotten that bad a few times. When going from dream to dream, I have no control over where I'll find myself. There are certain environments though that I have been to in many dreams.
I no longer stress though if the dreams go bad. I sit down and submit to my subconscious, and I find it done and over with me awake quick enough. It seems that when this happens it's like my subconscious is looking for acknowledgement that indeed, it has control, lucidity or not. When I'm lucid and able to manipulate the dreams though (when, I suppose, the conscious and subconscious are one) it's extremely cool.
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Phishe
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Quote:
EquilibriuM said:
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Phishe said: Well, i never really heard of lucid dreaming as being anything harmful. Im pretty sure its safe but whatever.
Theres a really good movie about it called "waking life" crazy, crazy movie.
I suggest everyone to read about it or to check it out.
Yes, I know the movie well, its really good. Lucid dreaming is safe, inorganic beings are unsafe. These things all depend on your level of awareness. If you are not very aware, you don't have anything to worry about (other entities wont care about your existence). If you are ultra aware you will be able to avoid most potential problems easily. But if you are somewhere in the middle, you will have to rely on your impeccability to help you survive the dreaming worlds. No man is born a God.
Its funny you say that your pretty sure its safe when you have no experience with it.
I have no experience, but i have read quite a bit about it and the dangers seem very harmless.
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: Phishe]
#5745111 - 06/13/06 08:44 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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craaaaaa- ze fool
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clepto4peace
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Lucid dreaming is great, but can be hard. I have always been able to realize I am dreaming ever so often, but actually being able to do anything other than wake up at times when I am having a bad or frustrating dream was a bit hard at first. I would say read up on it a lot, decide what you want to use it for. Do you want to understand your dreams better? Just have fun in them? Find out things about yourself? etc. Once you have a goal it may be easier to notice, "oh there are a bunch a fish-birds coming out of the ground and going into the air....I must be dreaming." If you have a goal you might not just think you are dreaming, you may be able to also think I want to wake up and write this down, or I should follow them and watch carefully this might mean something, or better yet, I'm going to talk to these fish-birds before the dream is over. I've heard a lot of people just try and do thinks they can't do in normal life, sort of trying out super powers they can think of. I prefer just realizing I'm dreaming and trying to interact or think about the imagery and where I want the dream to end up. Good luck and maybe keep a journal to be aware of consistencies in dreams you might be able to notice while your sleeping(characters, setting s, themes).
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clepto4peace
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Also that last part might really help. Just finding something you know you always dream about...for example in dreams when I'm driving it is never good. Either my legs don't work or the break isn't there. A dozen different things can be wrong and I just cant slow down or steer. At first this was scary, but now it is always just a tip off that I am definitely dreaming. So I can happily relax and figure out what I want to do about it or wake up. Hope you have something like this to tip you off. If you watch Waking Life the main character has something to this effect (light switches).
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TurricaN
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EquilibriuM is spreading a load of FUD. Lucid dreaming is totally natural and safe, and to believe otherwise is simple delusion.
I found out about lucid dreaming almost exactly one year ago, had my first only 4 days after and have since been having lucid dreams once every 4 or 5 days on average. My personal method of induction is nothing more than hypnosis every now and then, but I do also keep a dream journal.
My first lucid dream was definitely a very powerful experience; being aware that the world that I am seeing clearly around me is nothing more than a creation of my mind, and appreciating the realness of the senses experienced within the dream. I was also lucky, in that my first lucid dream lasted a good few minutes and I was able to successfully practice flying. 
The experience left me with an afterglow that lasted several days.
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: TurricaN]
#5748963 - 06/14/06 09:04 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah OK.... Its not like your awareness can get stuck in a dream world or anything.
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TurricaN
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Exactly. It cannot. Anyone who say's otherwise is a delusional retard who is talking a load of bollocks.
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EquilibriuM
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Re: Lucid Dreaming [Re: TurricaN]
#5750424 - 06/14/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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TurricaN said: Exactly. It cannot. Anyone who say's otherwise is a delusional retard who is talking a load of bollocks.
I say otherwise. I am not delusional or a retard. (Quite intelligent actually) It's all about your level of awareness. If you are not aware of the inorganic beings, then you have nothing to worry about. They are only interested in those who are aware. You have a mind to open and much to learn, better start getting to it chap.
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