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Jon
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Re: Tripping without drugs (serious thread) [Re: ultramarv]
#5750814 - 06/14/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Look into the biology of human starvation. Both physical and mental aspects.
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Nexus555
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Re: Tripping without drugs (serious thread) [Re: ThreePieceSuit]
#5751151 - 06/14/06 08:52 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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ThreePieceSuit said: The effects are not comparable to actually taking. There's aspects which I believe can only be accessed by taking entheogens. Some examples of effects that I believe are impossible to recreate are:
The feeling of complete understanding Intense hallucinations Floating feeling "Returning Home" feeling Complete understanding of someone else Total appreciation for nature
Not trying to bash you, but I've experience all of the above for the exception of Intense Hallucinations without the use of any drug. And I do have some of these feelings somewhat frequenctly, with the exception of floating. Sometimes I'll go outside (completely sober), smoke a cigarette by myself and just listen to the crickets, the wind blowing, the trees swaying and a total feeling of enlightenment. Sometimes when I feel like this, it seems my vision is even somewhat illuminated. You can have a lot of what you listed soberly without the use of drugs. It all depends on the mood your in and the environment. Now as for a normal day, I doubt it, but if you just sit back, and let the present take full control of you and naturally block out all of your thoughts, judgements and analysing, this is very possible.
And as for the "intense hallucinations" soberly, a friend of mind and I can somewhat hallucinate if we concentrate. Try staring at one object (I do this a lot high and works 1000 times more, but sober it'll work as well) for at least 1-2 minutes. Do not take your eye off of it, do not stare directly at the object and try not to analyise what you are seeing. If you do this correctly, the object being stared at will usually change shapes or blend in with other stuff. As far as intense hallucinations, I think it is nearly impossible to do soberly.
Keep in mind I've done all of this and never have tripped. Thanks
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: Tripping without drugs (serious thread) [Re: Nexus555]
#5751477 - 06/14/06 10:03 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the mind is capable of recreating a trip on its own...we have a powerful cpu inside our skulls
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MOTH
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Re: Tripping without drugs (serious thread) [Re: Iamthewalrus]
#5751566 - 06/14/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel as though we're experiencing a giant trip RIGHT NOW...life!!
All the visuals...wow, the world is both larger and smaller then you would think.
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Iamthewalrus
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Re: Tripping without drugs (serious thread) [Re: MOTH]
#5751637 - 06/14/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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very tru
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Entropymancer

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Re: Tripping without drugs (serious thread) [Re: Nexus555]
#5753196 - 06/15/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nexus555 said:
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ThreePieceSuit said: The effects are not comparable to actually taking. There's aspects which I believe can only be accessed by taking entheogens. Some examples of effects that I believe are impossible to recreate are:
The feeling of complete understanding Intense hallucinations Floating feeling "Returning Home" feeling Complete understanding of someone else Total appreciation for nature
Not trying to bash you, but I've experience all of the above for the exception of Intense Hallucinations without the use of any drug. And I do have some of these feelings somewhat frequenctly, with the exception of floating. Sometimes I'll go outside (completely sober), smoke a cigarette by myself and just listen to the crickets, the wind blowing, the trees swaying and a total feeling of enlightenment. Sometimes when I feel like this, it seems my vision is even somewhat illuminated. You can have a lot of what you listed soberly without the use of drugs. It all depends on the mood your in and the environment. Now as for a normal day, I doubt it, but if you just sit back, and let the present take full control of you and naturally block out all of your thoughts, judgements and analysing, this is very possible.
And as for the "intense hallucinations" soberly, a friend of mind and I can somewhat hallucinate if we concentrate. Try staring at one object (I do this a lot high and works 1000 times more, but sober it'll work as well) for at least 1-2 minutes. Do not take your eye off of it, do not stare directly at the object and try not to analyise what you are seeing. If you do this correctly, the object being stared at will usually change shapes or blend in with other stuff. As far as intense hallucinations, I think it is nearly impossible to do soberly.
Keep in mind I've done all of this and never have tripped. Thanks
If you think you've experienced all of the feelings that he's talking about without ever having tripped, I'd be willing to bet that you're talking about a completely different sort of experience, lacking the psyche-shaking magnitude of a psychedelic experience.
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