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eviscerated
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cake recipe - too heavy?
#5740474 - 06/12/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi all, I've been a longtime reader that finally joined and have started my foray into the world of magical mushroom growing.
Instead of following the basic PF tek for a greater chance of sucess, I've been experimenting and learning with some of my own recipes for cake mixtures. It can be said that I'm a total noob at the actual application of techniques.
I haven't been using verm because no place remotely near me sells it (it's incredible, I can find everything else under the sun I DON'T need) and I haven't had sufficient cause as of yet to order some. My mission is to create a PF-style cake. So my question is this -- I believe that the reason my last batch of jars did not colonise for two reasons 1) high acidity (my fault, realised it late) and 2) possibly the mixture was too dense as to promote colonization.
Is there a vague known limit as to how well mycelium can establish itself in, say, 1/4 c peat moss, 1/3 c brf, 3 tbs lentil slurry / halfpint?
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Edited by eviscerated (06/12/06 01:02 AM)
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niteowl
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Re: cake recipe - too heavy? [Re: eviscerated]
#5740644 - 06/12/06 02:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are very particular, about what they are grown in/on.
If you can't find verm at Lowe's or Home Depot.....check some of your local nurseries, they should have some. If you still can't find any verm....look into using Wild Bird Seed, and just casing them.
If you have any more ??? feel free to PM me.
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Re: cake recipe - too heavy? [Re: niteowl]
#5740664 - 06/12/06 03:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Peat moss is going to result in a mixture that is too acidic and will invite contams. if the mycellium will even colonize it.
Always, always follow the PF tek to the letter your first time. As you've already found out, failing to do so often results in failure.
Don't experiment your first time. Don't dunk or roll or use a complicated setup your first time. Use the straight PF method with perlite for humidification. There is almost no way to fail doing it this way.
Don't try to substitute the vermiculite. Verm is very light so it's very cheap to have it shipped, making it just as cheap to order online as buy locally. Almost every place should carry it, it's in most premixed potting soils. Every gardening place will have it, just ask. If they don't have it they will order it for you. If they don't know what it is tell them that they are a total dumbshit and they have no business running or working in a gardening supply place.
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Re: cake recipe - too heavy? [Re: fastfred]
#5740891 - 06/12/06 07:54 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Use some natural water (lake or river) enriched by a few handfuls of hpoo or compost or worm castings per gallon--let that sit for a couple days. Use that water for making your cakes, and you'll see a difference. And any local farm supply or garden center will have vermiculite. And definitely dunk between flushes; there is no better way to rehydrate cakes. GL.
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eviscerated
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Re: cake recipe - too heavy? [Re: MLBjammer]
#5741517 - 06/12/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I've already got a sweet monotub setup that my boyfriend helped me build, before I even read a lot of the ways on here.
Despite the fact that I no longer live out in the boondocks, even in this modern, commercialized area I can't find verm within a 25-mile radius. There is ONE place that stocks perlite. And it's kinda sad, because on the back of my Schultz peat moss bag it says, "Try our other products - verm and pearlite!"
Half the places I went to were like, "Vamaculite? Whuh? Hey now Cass, we got any of this stuff 'ere? Naw, we ain't never heard of it."
Le sigh.
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Looking for: AUS, Cambo, F+, KSS, Lipa Yai, PE, PR, TEX, AF/TR or others // My strains: ARG, B+, HAW, Malay, MDK, SA, TAS, Yos(EQ), Z Strain(GT)
Edited by eviscerated (06/12/06 12:07 PM)
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Re: cake recipe - too heavy? [Re: eviscerated]
#5742959 - 06/12/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just order it from an online supplier. Click on the "please support our sponsors" tag at the top and bottom of every forum page. I know that Mediamania sells it; maybe a couple others. GL.
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