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drawing-shading.
    #5741646 - 06/12/06 12:42 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I'm learning to draw and i'm tryting to learn about shading, the only thing i can shade and make it look pretty good is a sphere.
Do you have any tips on what other shapes i can draw and shade? how do i shade different shapes including shadows and stuff?


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5741653 - 06/12/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5741681 - 06/12/06 12:50 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Are you learning this yourself, or do you have a book or something? It's useful if you can find some basic shapes (orange, movie box, soda can) and practice with them.


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: PinballWizard]
    #5741709 - 06/12/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

yeah i'm learning it myself.
well i guess i draw and shade do cylinders now , i just tried it and i did it fairly good for my first time.


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5741723 - 06/12/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

cross hatching is a good way to shade if you are using a pencil, darker where the shadow is and progressively lighter towards the light source



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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5741732 - 06/12/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

"Shades" or "shadows" are known as value, FYI.

http://www.anticz.com/drawing1.htm


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: PinballWizard]
    #5741735 - 06/12/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Just draw anything then shade it, charcoals quite good to experiment with.

Books are good to find interesting things to draw.

I did this in charcoal years ago.




just pencil



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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5741751 - 06/12/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Try shading different parts than you normally would. For instance try shading an upright cylinder, and shade the center of it (the foreground) and keep the receding edges light. This technique can be transfered to a face with dramatic results.

Also, try making the edge of a shadow darker than the rest of the shadow. This can highlight the shadow and help contain the space of the rest of the shadow.

Variance in the shadow itself is also important. Try to have fun with it. Don't make it uniform. Treat the shadow area itself as an abstract painting. Crosshatching will help you achieve a nice variance with linear/gestural quality, and can also be used to indicate volumetric shape.

You might also want to ask in the MAL forum, as that's where the graphite geeks hang out... :wink:


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: Papaver]
    #5741861 - 06/12/06 01:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

They sell these pencils for shading in art stores that work great. I forgot what they're called but they look like rolled up paper.


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: doctor_gonzo]
    #5741922 - 06/12/06 01:54 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

cool , thanks everyone for the tips.


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5742495 - 06/12/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Try the book "drawing for the left side of the brain.

Also, try to just copy other drawings, thats always a good way to learn. (Dont trace though, that wont help :laugh:)


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: domite]
    #5744202 - 06/12/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

the left side of your brain is the logical side, so the book your thinking of is:

http://www.drawright.com/


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: SgtBob]
    #5744714 - 06/13/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

oopsie.


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: DistortedEyes]
    #5744738 - 06/13/06 01:35 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

White objects.

I rarely do drawing with shading (cross hatching when I do, more to make it look different, not realistic)

but whenever my friends in art classes do shading excercises they try and draw white objects, it seems to make the shading easier to see or something.


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: flubbilynumpkins]
    #5745161 - 06/13/06 09:06 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

another good excercise is to take a picture of someone or something, make it grayscale and print it out. then trace the outlines of the picture so you dont have to focus on the linework; and shade it by looking at the picture (not tracing).

also - one way to draw on the right side of your brain is to look at the shapes and the "negative" shapes that make a drawing. negative shapes are like if someone was standing with their hand on their hip, the negative space would be the space between their torso and their elbow.... would look like a sideways triangle.... get it?


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Can the critics still deny that the geometry of matter is directly related to the harmonic interweaving of light itself? There is no substance, in the absolute sense. We live in a reality of un-reality; all is an illusion and the stuff that dreams are made of. Our physical world is nothing more than a resonating ball of light and shade."

"If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things through narrow chinks of his cavern."


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: SgtBob]
    #5745195 - 06/13/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

buy and shade coloring books
try drawing/shading thing w/ folds (curtains, paper bags)
edit: things like an egg inside a ball jar are good too. (the glass warps and creates some intresting shadows)


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Re: drawing-shading. [Re: CosmicFool]
    #5745615 - 06/13/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The best way to learn how to render things is to study nature and natural lighting conditions around you. You will be hard pressed to learn anything of lasting value from "shading" tutorials or little tricks to get certain effects. The world around you is the best teacher --- observe carefully, patiently, and think how you could interpret the light effects you see with you chosen medium (graphite, charcoal, etc). In this way you will be saying something about the world based on your own observations and feelings, rather than simply rehasing someone else's technique. Good luck and above all explore what truly interests you (what can you stare at for hours with pleasure?)


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